38 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Time for Tuchel to make some priorities. Play as many kids as possible in the FA Cup and forget about the CL.

Are you being serious?
 

The rules of both competitions are such that if you play too weekend team and lost then fines and possible exclusion from subsequent tournaments are a possibility 

14 minutes ago, Argo said:

It can be both. Just one toxic work collegue can shift mental dynamics so much.

Personally i'd have given the Chesterfield game to the U23's and told the main squad to take a short holiday. Harsh on Chesterfield and pisses on tradition a bit but sometimes needs must.

After the Spurs game there is a mid season break no games are scheduled till the 4th round FA Cup game on 5/2/2022

1 minute ago, terraloon said:

Are you being serious?
 

The rules of both competitions are such that if you play too weekend team and lost then fines and possible exclusion from subsequent tournaments are a possibility 

Has that ever happen to anyone? Other teams got multiple games canceled due to minimal cases of the virus, Tuchel should do whats the best for the team I don't care about those rules...

1 minute ago, terraloon said:

After the Spurs game there is a mid season break no games are scheduled till the 4th round FA Cup game on 5/2/2022

I didn't actually know that, i thought it was during our CWC campaign for whatever reason meaning we miss out.

Just had a look and after Spurs we have 4 weeks of no league action. That's an incredible piece of good timing, hopefully we can sign off with a win on Sunday, Spurs have so far been the one team still sh*t enough to lose comfortably vs us through this.

9 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Are you being serious?
 

The rules of both competitions are such that if you play too weekend team and lost then fines and possible exclusion from subsequent tournaments are a possibility 

As far as the FA Cup is concerned, Klopp has set the precedence with what he did two years ago. They can't kick anyone out now without looking like raging hypocrites.

23 minutes ago, terraloon said:

After the Spurs game there is a mid season break no games are scheduled till the 4th round FA Cup game on 5/2/2022

Actually while there is a break I don't think it was a mid-season one by design. It is because many federations have World Cup qualifiers. That includes South America, Asia, and Concacaf. So no rest for players who represent the likes of Brazil, USA, etc.

18 minutes ago, Argo said:

I didn't actually know that, i thought it was during our CWC campaign for whatever reason meaning we miss out.

Just had a look and after Spurs we have 4 weeks of no league action. That's an incredible piece of good timing, hopefully we can sign off with a win on Sunday, Spurs have so far been the one team still sh*t enough to lose comfortably vs us through this.

The reason we have no league games for 4 weeks is because of Club World Cup. The Brighton and Arsenal games were rescheduled for that reason.

11 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Roman: Hello everyone, thank you for being here today.

Bruce, Eugene and Marina: our pleasure Sir.

Roman: I want to discuss the ongoing problem with Romelu Lukaku. Did I make a mistake bringing him here?

Bruce: No sir no

Eugene: You do not make mistakes Sir.

Marina: He scored lots of goals wherever he goes, only not here.

Roman: So are you saying the problem is somewhere else?

Marina: None of our attackers are doing good.

Bruce: we cannot score more than a goal a game since Villa.

Eugene: You don't pick the team on match days sir.

Roman: So the coach is the problem?

Bruce: Look at our history, this always happens.

Eugene: is not our fault the coach cannot maintain the players levels. These players are winners.

Marina: we sack the coach, results get better,we win trophies.

Bruce: and your timing to do so is always brilliant.

Eugene: the next coach is sure to get Lukaku firing, this one just does not know how to use him properly.

Roman: so we sack our Champions League winner coach?

Bruce: if you think it's best boss.

Eugene: you are always so smart with these choices boss.

Marina: Sheva is available, he knows how a top striker works.

Bruce: we have a squad full of world class players, I see no other reason why we are not challenging City.

Roman: OK I will take it under advisement.

 

[a month has elapsed. Russia has invaded Ukraine, and Sheva has volunteered to put patriotism ahead of career and wealth and join the war effort. On the pitch, Chelsea’s woes have continued. Board reconvenes].

Roman: hello everyone. Well things are getting worse and now we can’t get Shevchenko.

Eugene: sorry about this war business sir and I hope Sheva will be ok. I know you’re close.

Roman shrugs:  if he dies, he dies. 
 

(Awkward moment)

Marina (breaking the ice): all is not lost gentlemen. I have another proposal up my sleeve.

Bruce: who?

Marina: I’ll give you a clue. He’s been here before. Was recently fired by another premier league club. Only drawback is he’s not too popular with the fans, who used to call him “fat spa…”

Bruce (spitting out his coffee): Benitez?! Are you crazy!?

Marina: hear me out. He knows how a top striker works. Besides, as I explained before- history shows that if we fire the manager, results should improve. Who we get isn’t so important. It’s something I learned about on a Chelsea fans forum. 
 

….

4 minutes ago, forbzy said:

The reason we have no league games for 4 weeks is because of Club World Cup. The Brighton and Arsenal games were rescheduled for that reason.

I know but even so, a lot can change in a few weeks. By the time we kick off at Palace we could have the momentum of being world Champions and/or even better have found a way to get shot of Lukaku (unlikely but not giving up).

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Time for Tuchel to make some priorities. Play as many kids as possible in the FA Cup and forget about the CL.

What 😂

5 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

What 😂

No way we should risk losing the top 4 thinking that we can win every cup we're in, the squad can't compete on a desirable level in the league anymore and the fact that we're still in every cup isn't going to help us. After all, we can still win the League Cup and the Club World Cup this season. 

28 minutes ago, forbzy said:

Actually while there is a break I don't think it was a mid-season one by design. It is because many federations have World Cup qualifiers. That includes South America, Asia, and Concacaf. So no rest for players who represent the likes of Brazil, USA, etc.

I’d forgotten about those federations

Thankfully the bulk of our players won’t be required to play as save Silva and Pulisic I don’t think any others will be involved if indeed those two are.

 

 

 

 

 

58 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Has that ever happen to anyone? Other teams got multiple games canceled due to minimal cases of the virus, Tuchel should do whats the best for the team I don't care about those rules...

Yep it has. 

 

 

34 minutes ago, forbzy said:

The reason we have no league games for 4 weeks is because of Club World Cup. The Brighton and Arsenal games were rescheduled for that reason.

Actually the Arsenal game is still to be rescheduled 

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Time for Tuchel to make some priorities. Play as many kids as possible in the FA Cup and forget about the CL.

Throwing the CL as defending champions would literally be insanity, thankfully there’s 0 chance Tuchel decides to do so. 

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Play as many kids as possible in the FA Cup and forget about the CL.

23 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

No way we should risk losing the top 4 thinking that we can win every cup we're in, the squad can't compete on a desirable level in the league anymore and the fact that we're still in every cup isn't going to help us. After all, we can still win the League Cup and the Club World Cup this season. 

Your'e right to worry, we won't get top 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We'll get top 3 !

The hardest thing to accept right now is the football, it's so poor only a win gets us anything good out of it.

Under Sarri results were so so but there was atleast some intrege due to us transitioning to a possession based team. Under Frank in season 1 pre lockdown the results weren't great but the majority of the games were fun. Drawing to Burnley in November was annoying but the game was so good to watch i wasn't even that pissed.

The football we play now is dreadful, I've been to see our next FA Cup opponents a few times this season when we don't clash with them (live near atm) and they genuinely play more modern and progressive football than we do with Rom as a focal point, a f**king league one side with a squad value of £3.4m (if transfermrkt is telling the truth even if not won't be that much more) let that sink in.

8 minutes ago, Argo said:

The football we play now is dreadful, I've been to see our next FA Cup opponents a few times this season when we don't clash with them (live near atm) and they genuinely play more modern and progressive football than we do with Rom as a focal point, a f**king league one side with a squad value of £3.4m (if transfermrkt is telling the truth even if not won't be that much more) let that sink in.

Best game we've played recently was Tottenham at home with Lukaku as the "focal point". You've got tunnel vision Argo and think Lukaku is the cause of every problem we have right now.
Which quite simply isn't the case.

The fullbacks is a far bigger issue. Having to play Azpi & Alonso have harmed our style of play more than anything else. After that you would probably have to look at Mount and Odoi and the rest of the attackers who's all looked completely hopeless lately as well. Everyone likes to bring up Lukaku not having a lot of touches pr game these days. Who's supposed to supply him? Yeah thats right, that's Mount, Ziyech, Odoi and the likes of them. And they are completely failing. Lukaku is not supposed to get involved deep and make something happen from the midfield areas anyways so he needs to be given the ball in dangerous areas. And none of the jokers in forward areas are able to hit a barn door these days, nevermind Lukaku.

23 minutes ago, coco said:

Your'e right to worry, we won't get top 4.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We'll get top 3 !

Right now we're top 3, but if we keep getting mostly draws we'll find ourselves top 6 in no time. Spurs and Arsenal are not that far away and at some point it's to expect that Man United with make a run of 5 wins in a row. Actually if Arsenal wins the games they are missing they will have the same amount of points as us.

With all the injuries and Tuchel saying that the squad is tired in all possible ways it's only normal to admit that we simply can not compete in all possible cups. Like I said, I do expect us to pass the first knockout round against Lille in the CL but after that I'm fine with us going out and I hope that we win the League Cup since we're in the final adding the Club World Cup as well but why should we push hard in the FA Cup and risk further injuries?

Edited January 19, 20224 yr by Gol15

1 minute ago, Sindre said:

Best game we've played recently was Tottenham at home with Lukaku as the "focal point". You've got tunnel vision Argo and think Lukaku is the cause of every problem we have right now.
Which quite simply isn't the case.

The fullbacks is a far bigger issue. Having to play Azpi & Alonso have harmed our style of play more than anything else. After that you would probably have to look at Mount and Odoi and the rest of the attackers who's all looked completely hopeless lately as well. Everyone likes to bring up Lukaku not having a lot of touches pr game these days. Who's supposed to supply him? Yeah thats right, that's Mount, Ziyech, Odoi and the likes of them. And they are completely failing. Lukaku is not supposed to get involved deep and make something happen from the midfield areas anyways so he needs to be given the ball in dangerous areas. And none of the jokers in forward areas are able to hit a barn door these days, nevermind Lukaku.

Ofcourse there will be outliers both ways, there were even some enjoyable games in 15/16 doesn't change the fact that the season as a whole was utterly joyless in every sense. But generally speaking the football we play with him up front is crap.

Lukaku according to himself is on his level of Benzema, Suarez, Kane and Lewandowski. Do you ever see the service excuse made for them? No, because they perform and score goals no matter what the system is, who's behind them and who the manager is. Kane last season had a washed up Mourinho (then a first time manager) with the only thing even resembling service being a greedy Son, guess what? He scored 33 goals in 49 games.

6 minutes ago, Argo said:

Lukaku according to himself is on his level of Benzema, Suarez, Kane and Lewandowski. Do you ever see the service excuse made for them? No, because they perform and score goals no matter what the system is, who's behind them and who the manager is. Kane last season had a washed up Mourinho (then a first time manager) with the only thing even resembling service being a greedy Son, guess what? He scored 33 goals in 49 games.

Like when Benzema scored five league goals in 32 games in 17/18? Or when Lewandowski only scored 17 league goals in a piss easy league for Bayern?

Kane is a great example of my point. You may call him washed up but Mourinho had a system that got the best out of Kane who then performed like the best striker in the world. This season he's barely scoring under a different manager. So he's not scoring no matter the system or manager is he?

 

12 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Like when Benzema scored five league goals in 32 games in 17/18? Or when Lewandowski only scored 17 league goals in a piss easy league for Bayern?

Kane is a great example of my point. You may call him washed up but Mourinho had a system that got the best out of Kane who then performed like the best striker in the world. This season he's barely scoring under a different manager. So he's not scoring no matter the system or manager is he?

 

You are joking? Spurs literally played defensive against any half decent team to the point Kane coming into midfield just to get involved was becoming a running joke. If that benefited anyone in a stat padding sense it was Son.

Lukaku only gets system tax if he does his bit. If he got involved with pressing we'd win it back more often in the final 3rd (or force the opposition to hoof it back to us) which will by default give him more opportunity's, or is it our CL winning player's that stop him running aswell? I'll give you the example of Eto'o when he was here, two of his goals came about through pressing the keeper, you don't need service for that.  That was a three times UCL winner who never liked us before joining (and only looked twice because of Mou) at the twilight of his career btw, yet a supposed Chelsea fan who's still got everything to prove refuses to offer any work rate of substance.

Edited January 19, 20224 yr by Argo

Our situation is so dire in wingback position that Tuchel would've even tried Mikel there had he been here.

31 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Like when Benzema scored five league goals in 32 games in 17/18? Or when Lewandowski only scored 17 league goals in a piss easy league for Bayern?

Kane is a great example of my point. You may call him washed up but Mourinho had a system that got the best out of Kane who then performed like the best striker in the world. This season he's barely scoring under a different manager. So he's not scoring no matter the system or manager is he?

 

And just to add further. I'm well aware of the problems of the other attackers and I'm very vocal on how I'm fed up with Pulisic and his anonymous sh*tshows but absolutely none of them are in any way responsible for Lukaku's incompetence, delusions of grandeur and sheer lack of effort.

Edited January 19, 20224 yr by Argo