Tuchel will need 2 defenders in the summer and at least 1 wing back. So next season we won't have the money to buy a new attacker, hopefully Havertz and Lukaku can become good.

19 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Tuchel will need 2 defenders in the summer and at least 1 wing back. So next season we won't have the money to buy a new attacker, hopefully Havertz and Lukaku can become good.

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

Tuchel will need 2 defenders in the summer and at least 1 wing back. So next season we won't have the money to buy a new attacker, hopefully Havertz and Lukaku can become good.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

The other option is to sell them? 

1 hour ago, Gol15 said:

The other option is to sell them? 

I will put this out there and will happily have you quote me later if I am wrong, and then Munkworth can put forward his gifs about it too.

Anyways Lukaku will not be useful to us while TT is manager. Only way he will do is if we hire a manager who builds a system to have everything focused on exactly what Lukaku likes.

Havertz I still have high hopes for. He can be great under any manager.

5 hours ago, axman2526 said:

 

Havertz I still have high hopes for. He can be great under any manager.

Havertz has struggled under 2 different managers.

7 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Havertz has struggled under 2 different managers.

Havertz is no better now than when we first bought him

I think the problem is at the moment, we are trying to dislodge a very good Klopp side, and a very good and consistent Pep side. Right now I don't think we are close enough to challenging, because we simply aren't consistent enough, which is so important to win a title. 

I think currently we are playing Ziyech as without James we have little threat from the right. Ziyech's ability to cut in from the right side and shoot (often misses)  is important for us just now.

Similarly CHO and Pulisic can score from the left side though not frequently enough.

Re Lukaku sometimes I think he should come deep just to confuse their defenders. 

I also think Mount and Havertz may just be off their game yet that should pass quickly hopefully.

56 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I think currently we are playing Ziyech as without James we have little threat from the right. Ziyech's ability to cut in from the right side and shoot (often misses)  is important for us just now.

Similarly CHO and Pulisic can score from the left side though not frequently enough.

Re Lukaku sometimes I think he should come deep just to confuse their defenders. 

I also think Mount and Havertz may just be off their game yet that should pass quickly hopefully.

There is very little reason for a st to come deep if he can post high. What Lukaku need to do is put his butt on defender and post up. 

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

There is very little reason for a st to come deep if he can post high. What Lukaku need to do is put his butt on defender and post up. 

If he is not getting the service might create more space for the others as he pulls CBs out of position.

 

 

https://theathletic.com/3081009/2022/01/20/chelseas-wing-backs-james-and-chilwell-are-proving-impossible-to-replace/

What we know already. How dependent we are on our wing-backs but a good article. 

The Guardian are usually strangely anti- Chelsea, but I think this hack has hit the nail on the proverbial head

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/21/a-year-of-thomas-tuchel-chelsea-remain-a-cup-club-in-need-of-new-culture

If we sign Dembele I would take that as a sign the club are backing TT.

1 hour ago, General said:

The Guardian are usually strangely anti- Chelsea, but I think this hack has hit the nail on the proverbial head

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/21/a-year-of-thomas-tuchel-chelsea-remain-a-cup-club-in-need-of-new-culture

People like to bang on about Klopp but what flies over their heads is they haven't unconditionally backed him no questions asked, their sporting director Michael Edwards have sometimes overruled Klopp on signings and outgoings.

There has to be a balance. While on balance this time I think Tuchel should be sided with over (most of) the players, asking a manager who they want and just getting them no questions asked isn't the safe policy many like to think it is. For example, Scolari wanted to ditch Drogba for Adriano, should we have just gone "yes he's a world cup winner he must be right".

For example if/when the time comes a new keeper is needed, Tuchel says one name and Cech says another, who's judgement do we go for? 

Edited January 21, 20224 yr by Argo

According to 5 live

we are 12 points behind city.

this this time last year we were 11:points behind and Lampard was sacked

Can't be bothered to check it, but not really the same situation

is it ?

36 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

According to 5 live

we are 12 points behind city.

this this time last year we were 11:points behind and Lampard was sacked

Can't be bothered to check it, but not really the same situation

is it ?

Depends on what sides do with their games in hand. We could be down to 7th.

2 hours ago, General said:

The Guardian are usually strangely anti- Chelsea, but I think this hack has hit the nail on the proverbial head

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/21/a-year-of-thomas-tuchel-chelsea-remain-a-cup-club-in-need-of-new-culture

Spot on

Far as the media goes remember they all have an agenda to fill and Chelsea manager under pressure/getting sacked sells papers and gets clicks.

3 hours ago, General said:

The Guardian are usually strangely anti- Chelsea, but I think this hack has hit the nail on the proverbial head

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/21/a-year-of-thomas-tuchel-chelsea-remain-a-cup-club-in-need-of-new-culture

Are we now the Liverpool of the early 2000's that was winning CL and cups but not the league?

4 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Depends on what sides do with their games in hand. We could be down to 7th.

Huh, without even checking whether they play each other (which I know they do) and assuming all teams win their games in hand the table would be....

Tottenham 48 (amazing, since they still play like crap)

Chelsea 44

Arsenal 44 (with 20 goals to make up in three games)

United 41

West Ham 40

Wolves 39

Leicester 37

 

19 minutes ago, ElTerrible said:

Huh, without even checking whether they play each other (which I know they do) and assuming all teams win their games in hand the table would be....

Tottenham 48 (amazing, since they still play like crap)

Chelsea 44

Arsenal 44 (with 20 goals to make up in three games)

United 41

West Ham 40

Wolves 39

Leicester 37

 

Assuming our poor run carries on through Spurs. Though yes only close to 7th if so and they win their games in hand.

Seems to be a fairly even split in the media and fans between  those who fe TT is a top manager who can build as Pep has done of supported but the board as Pep is by City but don't feel he will as the Chelsea board are not good enough to do so.

Then there are those that say our attacking is boring, we have gone backwards offensively under TT and all our troubles are on him and his tactics and he won't last the season.

Strikers union appear to be in the latter camp, Shearer, Agbonlahor and Wright to name a few.

On 19/01/2022 at 12:50, Dubair said:

After the Man City drubbing which was the lowest point of his tenure, his record in the league was 6W 4D 2L, whilst also winning the europa league. It’s not amazing but doesn’t indicate to me anyway a team that just gave up on the manager. As has been already stated the point total achieved that season was good enough for top 4 nearly every other season so it wasn’t a fluke.

I still don’t think it was a miraculous up turn in form when Sarri came in for Conte either. His 12 game unbeaten run was impressive but it was 8W and 4D so not exactly a million miles away from his record in the 12 games that he finished the season with after Man City. It’s hardly unique to Chelsea for a new manager to have a “bounce”, which I think that run can partially be attributed to. 

The results may have levelled out for a bit, but the performances were dire. There was rarely any fluency to our game, it became a scrap and overreliance on individual brilliance from our players to get anything out the majority of our games. Once the individual brilliance dried up, it was back to dropping points which is exactly what happened in the final 5 games of the season. 

45 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

The results may have levelled out for a bit, but the performances were dire. There was rarely any fluency to our game, it became a scrap and overreliance on individual brilliance from our players to get anything out the majority of our games. Once the individual brilliance dried up, it was back to dropping points which is exactly what happened in the final 5 games of the season. 

So pretty much identical to our current situation.