13 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Brain dead from the SD's if we don't

I don't think there's any signs of life there

You still have Badiashile, Disasi, Gilchrist, Humphreys & at a stretch Veiga as CB that should all be sold ahead of Chalobah .

Edited May 7, 20251 yr by ducavis

15 hours ago, axman2526 said:

I'd be aurprised if we keep Trev.

I'd be surprised if we keep Colwill actually.

The CBs that we have been linked with are Huijsen, Branthwaite and now David Hancko. All left footed, predominately LCB players.

Could we look to cash in on the highly marketable, pure profit Colwill when his value and form is at its highest for some time? Can absolutely see this.

New Real manager, defensive replacements needed. Colwill being signed in addition to TAA, maybe being used as a makeweight in a deal for us to go for Rodrygo? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised in the least tbh.

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

You still have Badiashile, Disasi, Gilchrist, Humphreys & at a stretch Veiga as CB that should all be sold ahead of Chalobah .

Not sure this make any different. Last season Chalobah was a starter and we tried to sell him. Gallagher is tailored made to play 6 to 10 role that Enzo is playing and we sold him.

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

Not sure this make any different. Last season Chalobah was a starter and we tried to sell him. Gallagher is tailored made to play 6 to 10 role that Enzo is playing and we sold him.

I feel it does. Lavia, Caicedo & Enzo were big money purchases earmarked as starters. Don’t forget Gallagher’s contract was running out, and he was demanding parity with Enzo.

Let’s see how it plays in the summer. It will be crazy to put him up for sale again when there are 2-3 average CBs that need to be got rid of.

2 hours ago, ducavis said:

I feel it does. Lavia, Caicedo & Enzo were big money purchases earmarked as starters. Don’t forget Gallagher’s contract was running out, and he was demanding parity with Enzo.

Let’s see how it plays in the summer. It will be crazy to put him up for sale again when there are 2-3 average CBs that need to be got rid of.

Chalobah situation is exactly the same as at the end of last season.

14 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Chalobah situation is exactly the same as at the end of last season.

He is a starter now though; and even if we sign a Huljsen, he will become 3rd choice CB. I reckon the club will try to get rid of Fofana in the summer if any offers come in.

Something else to take into consideration is he is on relatively low wages; £50k/w compared to a Tosin on £120k/w, Disasi on £90k/w, and Badiashile on £80k/w. That will be something else to be considered.

5 minutes ago, ducavis said:

He is a starter now though; and even if we sign a Huljsen, he will become 3rd choice CB. I reckon the club will try to get rid of Fofana in the summer if any offers come in.

Something else to take into consideration is he is on relatively low wages; £50k/w compared to a Tosin on £120k/w, Disasi on £90k/w, and Badiashile on £80k/w. That will be something else to be considered.

He was a nailed down starter under Poch. Nothing change.

Will be interesting to see what impact champions league revenue has if we qualify.

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Will be interesting to see what impact champions league revenue has if we qualify.

Not much. We are trailing our competitors with commercial, matchday revenue, and lack of a main sponsor. Factor in the £m bonuses that have to be paid out players if we qualify.

4 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Not much. We are trailing our competitors with commercial, matchday revenue, and lack of a main sponsor. Factor in the £m bonuses that have to be paid out players if we qualify.

Champions League qualification directly contributes to all of that though.

I'm speaking in the sense that the club wouldn't have to sell Chalobah or any academy players to balance the books this summer.

I don't understand why many fans are still on denial. Why were Conor, Chalobah and Madueke were the one for sale? Because they were the one that can be sold.

Who's actually in denial about that?

Hilarious Stewart isn't facing any repercussions for either Disasi or Badiashile. Two horrific transfers.

22 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Who's actually in denial about that?

Hilarious Stewart isn't facing any repercussions for either Disasi or Badiashile. Two horrific transfers.

Yeah good luck finding buyers for either with the wages they are on.

Best we can do is find loans imo.

3 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Yeah good luck finding buyers for either with the wages they are on.

Best we can do is find loans imo.

I've said this from the get go and I stand by it.

Our only chance in selling either Fofana, Disasi, or Badiashile where we don't take a massive loss is from a Saudi club. All 3 of them being Muslim could give them enough incentive to take those moves.

Baddy actually looked good initially. Then didnt. And still doesnt. A bit like @just

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I've said this from the get go and I stand by it.

Our only chance in selling either Fofana, Disasi, or Badiashile where we don't take a massive loss is from a Saudi club. All 3 of them being Muslim could give them enough incentive to take those moves.

Oh did not know they were all Muslim.

Can see Badi and disasi taking the option if given it, they likely know they are not top level players. But wes may well wait for Marisile

7 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Oh did not know they were all Muslim.

Can see Badi and disasi taking the option if given it, they likely know they are not top level players. But wes may well wait for Marisile

No idea how accurate - but this say Baddy is Christian: https://footballbiography.com/the-great-story-of-a-gentleman-defender-his-name-is-benoit-badiashile/

18 hours ago, Bob stark said:

I don't understand why many fans are still on denial. Why were Conor, Chalobah and Madueke were the one for sale? Because they were the one that can be sold.

Yes, because those players you mentioned were so easy to sell.

Chalobah left on loan at the last minute and we had to waste money on Felix to get Atletico to stump up any money for Conor.

If we want to get rid of Disasi and Badiashile, we can. Just like we can with anyone, it'll just be at a loss.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Yes, because those players you mentioned were so easy to sell.

Chalobah left on loan at the last minute and we had to waste money on Felix to get Atletico to stump up any money for Conor.

If we want to get rid of Disasi and Badiashile, we can. Just like we can with anyone, it'll just be at a loss.

Doesn't matter if it's at a loss - we just need to break even on PSR.

We signed Badiashile in January 2023 for £32.7m on a 7.5-year contract. His value is therefore amortised by £4.36m per year. By 01/07 there will be 5 years remaining on his contract, having passed 2.5, meaning he will have amortised £10.9m of his transfer fee, meaning we need to sell him for a minimum of £21.8m to break even on PSR.

We signed Disasi in August 2023 for £38.5m on a 6-year contract. His value is therefore amortised by £6.42m per year. By 01/07 there will be 5 years remaining on his contract, having passed 2, meaning he will have amortised £12.84m of his transfer fee, meaning we need to sell him for a minimum of £25.66m to break even on PSR.

Those numbers still aren't great (particularly for Disasi), but not as bad as they immediately appear.

1 hour ago, PloKoon13 said:

Doesn't matter if it's at a loss - we just need to break even on PSR.

We signed Badiashile in January 2023 for £32.7m on a 7.5-year contract. His value is therefore amortised by £4.36m per year. By 01/07 there will be 5 years remaining on his contract, having passed 2.5, meaning he will have amortised £10.9m of his transfer fee, meaning we need to sell him for a minimum of £21.8m to break even on PSR.

We signed Disasi in August 2023 for £38.5m on a 6-year contract. His value is therefore amortised by £6.42m per year. By 01/07 there will be 5 years remaining on his contract, having passed 2, meaning he will have amortised £12.84m of his transfer fee, meaning we need to sell him for a minimum of £25.66m to break even on PSR.

Those numbers still aren't great (particularly for Disasi), but not as bad as they immediately appear.

I could certainly see someone in Italy snapping up Badiashile for that much.

Hopefully one of the teams that comes up from the Championship might fancy Disasi.

1 hour ago, PloKoon13 said:

Doesn't matter if it's at a loss - we just need to break even on PSR.

We signed Badiashile in January 2023 for £32.7m on a 7.5-year contract. His value is therefore amortised by £4.36m per year. By 01/07 there will be 5 years remaining on his contract, having passed 2.5, meaning he will have amortised £10.9m of his transfer fee, meaning we need to sell him for a minimum of £21.8m to break even on PSR.

We signed Disasi in August 2023 for £38.5m on a 6-year contract. His value is therefore amortised by £6.42m per year. By 01/07 there will be 5 years remaining on his contract, having passed 2, meaning he will have amortised £12.84m of his transfer fee, meaning we need to sell him for a minimum of £25.66m to break even on PSR.

Those numbers still aren't great (particularly for Disasi), but not as bad as they immediately appear.

The Disasi one is actually a bit better - because we already received a £5m loan fee from villa.

We have also seen the club taking a pretty liberal approach to extending contracts - so in theory, we could extend either of them for a year (assume the club has extension options), and still sell them - making the fee amortised further. (This could be bo**ocks....not actually sure if this is allowed).

14 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I could certainly see someone in Italy snapping up Badiashile for that much.

Hopefully one of the teams that comes up from the Championship might fancy Disasi.

Italy? More like a 2 yr loan, with option to buy for £5, and an out of date panettone.

1 minute ago, nonotnowjim said:

Italy? More like a 2 yr loan, with option to buy for £5, and an out of date panettone.

No such thing. So loaded with sugar and preservatives they last forever. Make great bread and butter puddings.

5 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

The Disasi one is actually a bit better - because we already received a £5m loan fee from villa.

We have also seen the club taking a pretty liberal approach to extending contracts - so in theory, we could extend either of them for a year (assume the club has extension options), and still sell them - making the fee amortised further. (This could be bo**ocks....not actually sure if this is allowed).

Good point on the loan fee - had forgotten about that. Looks like any contract extension beyond five years would be hit by this:

BBC Sport

Premier League clubs agree new five-year limit on spreadi...

Premier League clubs agree to limit the period over which a player's transfer fee can be spread in their accounts to five years.

Presumably this puts the ownership in something of a bind. On the one hand faster amortisation means it's cheaper to bin off unwanted players without incurring a penalty; on the other it means the value of the club is lowered just that little bit.

Edited May 9, 20251 yr by PloKoon13