47 minutes ago, BordeauxBlue said:

He's gone. 

Tight hamstring. dont want to risk him before next Sat. Dont read too much into this.

5 minutes ago, Edjmendy said:

Tight hamstring. dont want to risk him before next Sat. Dont read too much into this.

Far too much of a coincidence. 

1 hour ago, Argo said:

While Sanchez was far from my first choice this "Brightons 3rd choice keeper" line is a disingenuous twisting of reality at best.

Interesting really as when they signed Jason Steele he was in exactly the same situation, being third hoice to Lee Camp who was brought in on loan. This goalie situation at Brighton will sort itself out this season, of that I am sure.

Player finally doing his part. 
 

 

20 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

Hold on tight - we might well be within 48 hours of 48 hours!

 

30 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

It's quite honestly pathetic they are trying to make this a rivalry. 

Let them have their 15 minutes because every small club that rise against Chelsea always come crashing down.

If Declan Rice is the benchmark for Brighton's evaluation, then I hate to say it, but they are absolutely entitled to name their asking price in relation to that transfer.

Declan Rice, IMHO, is your average 40M midfielder, overrated and overhyped by the English media and fans. Add to that the so called 'English tax' and that's how a midfielder that does no score, does not assist, does not create chances, just tackles and adds a bit of steel in the midfield area, gets to cost a record 105M.

Declan Rice does nothing that midfielders such as Tchouameni, Onana (Everton), Brozovic, Frank Zambo, Youssouf Fofana, Bruno Guimaraes can't do and they would not even come close to 105M.

Moises Caicedo is going to be a world beater in that position and the first time I saw him play I did not even heard of him at that point, but I said "Wow! Who is this guy?! The closest thing to Kante you will find nowadays".

He brings steel and a monster rate in midfield, is comfortable with the ball and has an eye for a pass. Brighton know he is a top player in the making and more so they know he plays a position we are desperate to cover. It's basically the final piece in whatever puzzle Pohettino and the board are trying to build.

Hopefully this goes through in the end. It was clear from the start Caicedo was not going to go for 70M or less as Arsenal have had the same bid rejected in January. If we are to go by that Ecuadorian journo's words, he says the deal is done at 120M US dollars. That translates to 95M British pounds.

Moisés Caicedo not in Brighton squad for today’s friendly game comes with clear message from player side: he wants to leave this summer.  

Negotiations with Chelsea remain ongoing — but Brighton insist on their position: bid has to be improved.

- Fabrizio Romano

I am not really happy with us. Without selling any player this summer, we knew we were going to buy a DM to partner Enzo Fernandes. We knew we wanted to buy Caicedo.

We knew the player is very good. We got Enzo for about £100m as well. Why haven't we spent around thesame amount to buy Caicedo as well for the past two months.

We just subject the fans to some emotional problem for the past two months. If Brighton wants £100m, then pay. If Havertz was worth what? £65m, or how much did we sell him? Is it not obvious that Caicedo will be worth £100m. Enzo also cost around thesame amount last season. So will the price have come down this season? 

On top of that, we even sold many players this summer. We made some money, why not use part of the money to buy this player for the past two months?

Now the season remains a week, the player has to sit out of a match to show us that he wants to come to us. Obviously Brighton were going to demand for £100m, he has all the capacity to be like Declan Rice.

To those saying you can't pay thesame amount you paid for Declan Rice for him, he has all the capacity to be like Declan Rice, so what's the difference?

Caicedo himself wants to come which probably makes Chelsea think we don't need to go overboard with the price. Poker millionaire in Brighton however is holding his ground. This is probably why he isn't here. His business-model demands top dollar for each asset. 

They are a feeder-club and they know it.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

 

15 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

If Declan Rice is the benchmark for Brighton's evaluation, then I hate to say it, but they are absolutely entitled to name their asking price in relation to that transfer.

Declan Rice, IMHO, is your average 40M midfielder, overrated and overhyped by the English media and fans. Add to that the so called 'English tax' and that's how a midfielder that does no score, does not assist, does not create chances, just tackles and adds a bit of steel in the midfield area, gets to cost a record 105M.

Declan Rice does nothing that midfielders such as Tchouameni, Onana (Everton), Brozovic, Frank Zambo, Youssouf Fofana, Bruno Guimaraes can't do and they would not even come close to 105M.

Moises Caicedo is going to be a world beater in that position and the first time I saw him play I did not even heard of him at that point, but I said "Wow! Who is this guy?! The closest thing to Kante you will find nowadays".

He brings steel and a monster rate in midfield, is comfortable with the ball and has an eye for a pass. Brighton know he is a top player in the making and more so they know he plays a position we are desperate to cover. It's basically the final piece in whatever puzzle Pohettino and the board are trying to build.

Hopefully this goes through in the end. It was clear from the start Caicedo was not going to go for 70M or less as Arsenal have had the same bid rejected in January. If we are to go by that Ecuadorian journo's words, he says the deal is done at 120M US dollars. That translates to 95M British pounds.

It’s nothing to do with being an English player tax, don’t be so silly, it’s everything to do with Rice being proven premier league level, Caicedo has one season under his belt and would be a bigger gamble, in todays market 80m is about right.

7 minutes ago, evissy said:

Caicedo himself wants to come which probably makes Chelsea think we don't need to go overboard with the price. Poker millionaire in Brighton however is holding his ground. This is probably why he isn't here. His business-model demands top dollar for each asset. 

They are a feeder-club and they know it.

No way, how many talents have we developed? Obviously, we could develop talents as well and sell them, we make money from it. Every club is happy when you make profit from selling players.

We have been a top club for some years now, at least better than Brighton. But Brighton is doing what a club like us should be doing. They have good players and they are in the Europa league next season.

You will expect them to sell their players at high prices. Brighton obviously value him at £100m.

Because he wants to come to us doesn't mean his price will go down.

 

2 minutes ago, coco said:

It’s nothing to do with being an English player tax, don’t be so silly, it’s everything to do with Rice being proven premier league level, Caicedo has one season under his belt and would be a bigger gamble, in todays market 80m is about right.

What of Enzo Fernandes, we paid around £100m for him as well. He wasn't a proven premier league player at the time we got him. So it's not until you are a proven premier league player before you can cost £100m.

Caicedo is obviously worth the amount, we have to stop all the sentiments.

 

3 minutes ago, hephzibah said:

What of Enzo Fernandes, we paid around £100m for him as well. He wasn't a proven premier league player at the time we got him. So it's not until you are a proven premier league player before you can cost £100m.

Caicedo is obviously worth the amount, we have to stop all the sentiments.

 

He isnt worth £100m. This is how players come to Chelsea and flop. Kante had won the CL with Leicester before coming to Chelsea. Caicedo has just had one season in the PL. At least Enzo had won the WC. Lets see how he copes in a top club with that high price tag.

15 minutes ago, hephzibah said:

What of Enzo Fernandes, we paid around £100m for him as well. He wasn't a proven premier league player at the time we got him. So it's not until you are a proven premier league player before you can cost £100m.

Caicedo is obviously worth the amount, we have to stop all the sentiments.

 

No exactly. So you've basically proven your point, we paid well over the top for Enzo as well. And if you think you can go get us Tchouameni for less than 100m in this market, please go ahead.

Edited August 6, 20232 yr by WhiteWall

1 minute ago, Edjmendy said:

He isnt worth £100m. This is how players come to Chelsea and flop. Kante had won the CL with Leicester before coming to Chelsea. Caicedo has just had one season in the PL. At least Enzo had won the WC. Lets see how he copes in a top club with that high price tag.

You have a negative mind. Anybody could say a player may come to us and not do well, but we choose not to say it, because we don't think evil.

If you think all the best players in the world may come to us and not do well, then you may not want any good player to come to Chelsea again forever.

And we don't want that to be the case. You shouldn't be thinking that he may come to Chelsea and not do well. You're saying that to justify yourself that Chelsea should not pay up to £100m for him.

Our club should not go back, we all know the trend of the transfer market, so £100m is not too much for Caicedo. 

This is done imo. Final bid seems like its going to be the one that seals it. Brighton preventing Caicedo from playing and getting an injury much like they did with Cucurella. 

Edited August 6, 20232 yr by Sconnie Blue

9 minutes ago, hephzibah said:

You have a negative mind. Anybody could say a player may come to us and not do well, but we choose not to say it, because we don't think evil.

If you think all the best players in the world may come to us and not do well, then you may not want any good player to come to Chelsea again forever.

And we don't want that to be the case. You shouldn't be thinking that he may come to Chelsea and not do well. You're saying that to justify yourself that Chelsea should not pay up to £100m for him.

Our club should not go back, we all know the trend of the transfer market, so £100m is not too much for Caicedo. 

Im not saying he will not come here and do well. The reality is that young players get overwhelmed with huge price tags and that can affect them. Lets face it if we end paying £100m for him, will it be worth it? We just have to wait and see in a year or two.

27 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

No exactly. So you've basically proven your point, we paid well over the top for Enzo as well. And if you think you can go get us Tchouameni for less than 100m in this market, please go ahead.

You haven't made any point or I don't understand you.

No one wants to pay over the top for any player, the market determines how much you pay for a player.

On Tchouameni, many clubs don't have a problem if Real Madrid is doing well, so they even sell players cheaply to them. But assuming it was Chelsea that wanted to buy a player, and the player has a good contract with them, they will sell to Chelsea at a very high price because no one wants Chelsea to do well.

Edited August 6, 20232 yr by hephzibah

What I don't even like about this deal is that I don't like all the publicity in the media that has been given to Caicedo in these last two months.

He's supposed to be a very important player for us if we sign him, but when you put too much pressure on him, he may not do well when he joins us.

We should have paid the money a long time ago, and take away all these publicity from the player.

27 minutes ago, hephzibah said:

What I don't even like about this deal is that I don't like all the publicity in the media that has been given to Caicedo in these last two months.

He's supposed to be a very important player for us if we sign him, but when you put too much pressure on him, he may not do well when he joins us.

We should have paid the money a long time ago, and take away all these publicity from the player.

I don't blame them, most of the "big money signings" like Rice, Mount etc were completed about a month or more ago so Caicedo is bound to take all the media coverage. Hopefully, he lives up to the hype.

1 hour ago, coco said:

The only players who are worth £100 million or close to it today are Mbappe, Halaand and Osimhen because they are match winners game changers, everyone else is just overpriced. 
 

I must admit that the most exciting thing about last season was the deadline day last minute signing of Enzo, I couldn't sleep afterwards what with the adrenaline rush 😂

I'm already looking forward to January with excited anticipation