1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

These 115 charges need to be dealt with. City won a treble last season and are set to do the double again this season, and all the talk online is about cheating. It's damaging the integrity of the Premier League.

Yup. The constant delays are making this tedious. If they’re innocent they’re innocent. If they’re guilty they’re guilty. Just get it over with. Enough of them continuously racking up trophies in the meantime wondering if they’re meaningless. 

Premier League’s greatest “rivalry”. 
 

 

3 hours ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Anyone who thought Arse would win the title must be absolutely crazy. They're almost as Spursy as Spurs.

They won like 15 out of 17 of their last games. They did practically everything they could. Just City are a machine powered by a oil-rich country and the best manager in the world. I don't like Arsenal, but them not winning it is nothing like Spurs bottling things.

No joy seeing City do the unprecedented 4 in a row, but Arsenal stole it on the last day be like eating a bowl of flies for breakfast for a week. At the end of the season, the best team won, the others got close and partly due to some help from the referees in a dark room

1 hour ago, Zeta said:

They won like 15 out of 17 of their last games. They did practically everything they could. Just City are a machine powered by a oil-rich country and the best manager in the world. I don't like Arsenal, but them not winning it is nothing like Spurs bottling things.

the lets win it for klopp feeling went down to the tubes a  bit quick. Thats what happens when you flog your players they looked knackered on the run in which pleased me no end. As for the gooners the hatred for them as Ive said before is deep rooted. There are one or two people I know who I would congratulate if they ever win it, but the running off at the mouth so to speak by the majority would be hard to bear, so f### Arsenal and Liverpool!

£85m - Darwin Nunez

£100m - Caicedo (British transfer record) 

£75m - VVD (Transfer record for CB) 

£67m - Allison (Transfer record for GK)

 

I have to be honest, Kai Havertz has been a mystery to me. Looked dreadful for Arsenal in midfield, but he's surprisingly been really good as their CF.

The guy used to miss so many chances for us, how the f**k did that happen?? It pisses me off even more. 

I'm hoping it's just a good stint in form and nothing more, and he goes back to being dogsh*t for them next season. 

1 hour ago, Victor90 said:

I have to be honest, Kai Havertz has been a mystery to me. Looked dreadful for Arsenal in midfield, but he's surprisingly been really good as their CF.

The guy used to miss so many chances for us, how the f**k did that happen?? It pisses me off even more. 

I'm hoping it's just a good stint in form and nothing more, and he goes back to being dogsh*t for them next season. 

He has always been better at CF. Nothing really change, his finishing is still poor, nothing really change.

Congrats to city n pep winning PL 4th in a row. 

I agree with Klopp assessment saying that with different manager this won't happen. 

54 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

I have to be honest, Kai Havertz has been a mystery to me. Looked dreadful for Arsenal in midfield, but he's surprisingly been really good as their CF.

The guy used to miss so many chances for us, how the f**k did that happen?? It pisses me off even more. 

I'm hoping it's just a good stint in form and nothing more, and he goes back to being dogsh*t for them next season. 

Stuff him, still ended up in tears and won nothing. It's just bizarre of his little cameo off the pitch, seriously none of them really believed they will win it on last day?

I rate him as a player, just not the elite players, still takes Thomas Muller over him despite the age differences

2 hours ago, Victor90 said:

I have to be honest, Kai Havertz has been a mystery to me. Looked dreadful for Arsenal in midfield, but he's surprisingly been really good as their CF.

The guy used to miss so many chances for us, how the f**k did that happen?? It pisses me off even more. 

I'm hoping it's just a good stint in form and nothing more, and he goes back to being dogsh*t for them next season. 

Nothing has really changed with Havertz, albeit he does improve with a consistent position/instruction from the manager. He had this for a brief spell under Tuchel where admittedly we looked like one of the best teams in the world, but then...Lukaku. He has also always been a streaky player even as a youngster at Leverkusen where he scores for 6-7 games and then goes off the boil.

Havertz's weakness is that he is a 'technical' player who cannot beat a defender 1v1. Arsenal's system doesn't require him to do that, they can just have him run the front line and have multiple players to slip him through on goal.  He played exactly this role initially under Tuchel, epitomised by his goal in the CL final. Tuchel ditched that post-Lukaku, preferring a defined CF, Potter as well.

Ultimately his contributions to Arsenal have been more or less the same as Nicolas Jackson for us, a similar headache who we signed for 1/2 the cost and can play in many more systems. 

 

 

26 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

 

Ultimately his contributions to Arsenal have been more or less the same as Nicolas Jackson for us, a similar headache who we signed for 1/2 the cost and can play in many more systems. 

 

 

This. 

Kai has always been a good player, tall, very good off the ball, press very well, bang average on the ball, poor finisher. He is very similar to jackson, a bit better but the problem is 🤑🤑🤑. This is the side that no one want to talk about. He is earning maybe triple of Jackson salary. 

 

 

 

I think that Jackson has better instincts and better technical ability. He can actually run with the ball and beat a man on the dribble, whereas Havertz is completely useless if he doesn't have someone to lay the ball off to immediately. 

Both will improve their finishing with age and confidence but Jackson just has a lot more to his game right now than Havertz.

Good thing with the Havertz purple patch is it stops Arteta from going out to buy a CF. He will now believe he is the 20 league goal forward he needs, but we all know he isn’t. 

1 hour ago, SydneyChelsea said:

I think that Jackson has better instincts and better technical ability. He can actually run with the ball and beat a man on the dribble, whereas Havertz is completely useless if he doesn't have someone to lay the ball off to immediately. 

Both will improve their finishing with age and confidence but Jackson just has a lot more to his game right now than Havertz.

I think Kai game is more polished and he is better in the air but it doesn't matter, kai is simply too expensive for what give to a team. 

 

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

Good thing with the Havertz purple patch is it stops Arteta from going out to buy a CF. He will now believe he is the 20 league goal forward he needs, but we all know he isn’t. 

I don't think they can sign an expensive CF unless they sell martinelli. 

They tried Kai as no 8 and he was so bad that Arteta was kinda forced to play rice over there. 

 

Edited May 20, 20242 yr by Bob stark

I didn't watch arse game but did Oliver really give this as a goal? 

If this is true then as VAR is truly fcked.  This is so obvious, Jesus leaned his arm to get the ball, no goal, next. 

It's just a feeling of indifference when City win a trophy nowadays. As long as they have 115 charges hanging over them, I can't take them seriously as a football club.

Despite our obvious rivalry, Arsenal would have been worthy winners if they somehow managed to overcome City. Been a very strong side for the past two seasons now.

On 20/05/2024 at 06:17, Scott Harris said:

These 115 charges need to be dealt with. City won a treble last season and are set to do the double again this season, and all the talk online is about cheating. It's damaging the integrity of the Premier League.

It's the elephant in the room that can't be ignored.

The matter needs to be settled sooner rather than later.

6 hours ago, Jezz said:

It's the elephant in the room that can't be ignored.

The matter needs to be settled sooner rather than later.

Really? I feel like it's the opposite. Nobody actually cares.

The only people who kick up a stink about it are the teams who finished 2nd. First it was Liverpool fans, now it's Arsenal. So it just sounds like sour grapes.

I've been talking about Cities corruption for the past 10 years, it's been blatant. Until action is actually taken, that's when the public opinion will shift, these 115 charges are nothing until then. City have been cleared in the past before, I wouldn't be shocked if they are cleared again. 

48 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

Really? I feel like it's the opposite. Nobody actually cares.

The only people who kick up a stink about it are the teams who finished 2nd. First it was Liverpool fans, now it's Arsenal. So it just sounds like sour grapes.

I've been talking about Cities corruption for the past 10 years, it's been blatant. Until action is actually taken, that's when the public opinion will shift, these 115 charges are nothing until then. City have been cleared in the past before, I wouldn't be shocked if they are cleared again. 

I get the sense there's been more discussion around it recently, but you're right to point out that clubs that have fallen just short (i.e. Liverpool and Arsenal) are the most vocal about it.

1 hour ago, Victor90 said:

Really? I feel like it's the opposite. Nobody actually cares.

The only people who kick up a stink about it are the teams who finished 2nd. First it was Liverpool fans, now it's Arsenal. So it just sounds like sour grapes.

I've been talking about Cities corruption for the past 10 years, it's been blatant. Until action is actually taken, that's when the public opinion will shift, these 115 charges are nothing until then. City have been cleared in the past before, I wouldn't be shocked if they are cleared again. 

I mean what they are doing is so obvious 😂😂😂

City has been paying the most wages for a while now and they keep spending big on player season after season. This is impossible, even united can't do this. 

 

Edited May 21, 20242 yr by Bob stark

Kompany in talks with Bayern...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c844l5zp8nvo

 

Man City are only 33/1 to be relegated next season on Oddschecker.

To provide context, Arsenal and Liverpool are 2000/1.

3 hours ago, Gordon Bennett said:

Kompany in talks with Bayern...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c844l5zp8nvo

 

Really strange to see a club like Bayern are struggling to find a replacement.