16 hours ago, dermott said:

Mainly Colwill letting him come in onto his left foot so easily.

Did the same against Spuds. He's not a full-back.

28 minutes ago, Backbiter said:

Did the same against Spuds. He's not a full-back.

Mate closing down is fundamental defending. Shouldn't be restricted to full-backs. 

25 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Mate closing down is fundamental defending. Shouldn't be restricted to full-backs. 

It is, but CBs have a different defensive zone to close down in, with different angles to fullbacks. Colwill has been exposed each time because he has been too far from the touch line and given the winger far too much space to work with. Fullbacks know how to use the touchlines when defending. Colwill plays too centrally when used as a fullback.

5 minutes ago, Backbiter said:

It is, but CBs have a different defensive zone to close down in, with different angles to fullbacks. Colwill has been exposed each time because he has been too far from the touch line and given the winger far too much space to work with. Fullbacks know how to use the touchlines when defending. Colwill plays too centrally when used as a fullback.

I agree with your point but I disagree that was the scenario yesterday. Colwill simply let the lad cut into his left and let him shoot. Badiashile didn't even try to close him down either. 

It's this level if ignorance that hinders the team atm. 

14 hours ago, Argo said:

Trying to think of league games Terry scored and if Oscar (2014 onwards) or Lampard did in the same game.

Most recent I can come up with was the 3-5 vs Arsenal so I'll go with that 🤣

I think that's a decent shout Argo ! 

29th October 2011 ...  AVB was the manager and Lukaku came off the bench in the 72nd minute (the 3rd appearance of his first spell)

 

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

I think that's a decent shout Argo ! 

29th October 2011 ...  AVB was the manager and Lukaku came off the bench in the 72nd minute (the 3rd appearance of his first spell)

 

Ahem

 

21 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Ahem

 

"League game" as in Premier League LOL

But nice to watch that again regardless !

4 hours ago, Backbiter said:

Couldn't believe Warnock and Jenas expressing the same view last night on MotD. They both felt the arm across from Milner to impede Mudryk was fine (Reece James got a second yellow last week for briefly touching Gordon's shoulder), and both somehow felt the trip that brought him down was accidental and therefore not a foul. Complete and utter bullsh!t. They didn't address whether he should have had a red for denying him a goal-scoring opportunity without making a genuine attempt to win the ball, which is a sending off offence.

(Thanks erskblue for the picture).

First time I watched MoTD in ages last night and the last time for ages. They just talk such absolute sh*te some of the posters on here would be an upgrade on their punditry. 

On 03/12/2023 at 13:07, Gonoir Beniashile said:

We've played Arse, Spurs, Man C, Newcastle and now those mugs from the South Coast and got 8 points and scored 14 goals. Compared to last season that's a fantastic improvement. 

Can't argue with that...shame we threw away points against Forest, Brentford and Bournemouth, teams we should be beating, although I guess if we'd lost against Arsenal, City and Spurs we'd probably be in the same position...just a thought.

On 03/12/2023 at 13:10, just said:

That's a long post but a good read. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a minute suggesting we were excellent before the sending off, but I did firmly believe we had been the more dangerous team up to that point. I partially agree with others who have said we took our foot off the gas after our second goal, but I think that was probably down to us trying to keep our shape and control the tempo. 

There's no doubt the sending off changed everything and nearly everyone predicted we would fold. You can look through most matchday threads from this season and the last, and the one thing this team, these players, are repeatedly criticised for is a lack of commitment and lack of fight. Well, they certainly showed buckets of it in that second half today. And with so many young players in our team it was fantastic to see.  Particularly when de Zerbi threw on all his big guns in one go.

For sure we are most definitely a work in progress. And we still need to find a striker worthy of the name. There is still a few missing pieces and too much inconsistency to be mentioned as a top team. But for anyone to suggest that we haven't shown ANY signs of improvement and progress under Pochettino this season is just plain wrong and overly negative IMO.

  I hope we see some positive results and consistent performances for the run up to the New Year; I don't see our position in the table changing too much especially while we and others sat in mid-table are inconsistent, string 3-4 wins together and we might get our head above the parapet. Show the fight and grit as they did against City and yesterday and we may start moving in the right direction, continue with this inconsistency and we'll be stuck around mid-table for the rest of the season then the eyes will be back on the coaching staff. 

16 hours ago, cfr95 said:

I thought Sterling was fine, but the issue is when Mudryk plays on the opposite wing, Sterling has to play a more disciplined game, recycling possession more, and being generally more risk averse. Willian would do the same thing for us to accomodate for Hazard on the other side (not comparing Hazard to Mudryk in terms of ability before anyone jumps on that!).

Obviously once we go down to 10 the whole gameplan goes out the window though.


On Mudryk I thought he had some nice flashes, and did well to win the pen. His positioning and movement still needs a lot of work though. He struggles to find separation, makes selfish runs rather than using his pace to drag defenders out of position, and presses really poorly. If those things arent improved upon I don't think its going to matter how fast or naturally talented he is.

I want Sterling to run more. It is getting worse each game. 

There is not much thing to say about Mudyrk. It is fine for young winger. 

If I ignore his fee, it is fine, but if I ignore his fee. He won't be here. 

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On 03/12/2023 at 17:52, WeatherMan said:

Give it a rest. You're embarressing. The media trawl fan websites like ours to find posts like this and show us up in a bad light.

Hey, it's obvious, you are the one that is embarrassing by trying to stop me from saying it. You have to say it, because it is wrong, that is why we are Chelsea fans to stand against it, only if we don't want the team to do well.

The agenda against Chelsea is too much, everybody can see this. You have forgotten your role as a fan, I'm just reminding you. We are being treated badly and you seat there, you are dumb, you say thesame people that are bad to us, the media, the referees etc should not hear that we are talking. You are terrible.

I don't stand tyranny.

On 03/12/2023 at 20:34, The Rising Sun said:

I'm with you, we shouldn't allow people to hate us. It should be a PL rule that outlaws it like racism and homophobia. 

But the PL hate us , so it would be difficult I reckon, .

I think Todd and Clearlake are clearly haters too and I don't know why

It's a right conundrum for sure 

 

Listen, it's a competition, our opponents have to hate us. But I'm saying the organizers of the competition should not take side, they are meant to be neutral. 

You need to read what someone wrote well and understand it before fooling yourself here. I said the referees are not supposed to like one team and hate another. It is terrible for pundits to also take side with one team and hate the other team, this is why it may be wrong to use all these ex-players as pundits, some of them are only taking side with their team which is wrong for a pundit.

If you are going to be a pundit, you need to be objective in your analysis. These are the people they call the media, the pundits, they shouldn't take side, they do not understand their profession.

These are the people I'm talking about. The media, the pundits and the referees should not take side with any team.

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18 hours ago, Munkunku said:

First time I watched MoTD in ages last night and the last time for ages. They just talk such absolute sh*te some of the posters on here would be an upgrade on their punditry. 

You and your hyperbole.

On 03/12/2023 at 23:38, Argo said:

Trying to think of league games Terry scored and if Oscar (2014 onwards) or Lampard did in the same game.

Most recent I can come up with was the 3-5 vs Arsenal so I'll go with that 🤣

That was one of the most entertaining games that can be watched as a neutral, but also one of the worst games of my entire experience as a Chelsea fan. AVB made us look like little boys. 

God knows how the Victor in 2012 would've coped under the new Chelsea. 

5 hours ago, hephzibah said:

Listen, it's a competition, our opponents have to hate us. But I'm saying the organizers of the competition should not take side, they are meant to be neutral. 

You need to read what someone wrote well and understand it before fooling yourself here. I said the referees are not supposed to like one team and hate another. It is terrible for pundits to also take side with one team and hate the other team, this is why it may be wrong to use all these ex-players as pundits, some of them are only taking side with their team which is wrong for a pundit.

If you are going to be a pundit, you need to be objective in your analysis. These are the people they call the media, the pundits, they shouldn't take side, they do not understand their profession.

These are the people I'm talking about. The media, the pundits and the referees should not take side with any team.

As an experiment, go to other clubs fan sites .

You'll find that those fans are convinced that they too are victims of referees, VAR , the PL etc and that other clubs get favourable decisions against them . 

But it doesn't matter, I think that believing that we have enemies all over the game unites our fans to get  behind the club and the team.

And we will almost definitely see us get f**ked by VAR or the ref against Utd on Wednesday 

Thanks for your reply 

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44 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

As an experiment, go to other clubs fan sites .

You'll find that those fans are convinced that they too are victims of referees, VAR , the PL etc and that other clubs get favourable decisions against them . 

But it doesn't matter, I think that believing that we have enemies all over the game unites our fans to get  behind the club and the team.

And we will almost definitely see us get f**ked by VAR or the ref against Utd on Wednesday 

Thanks for your reply 

It's a broken world, nothing is right in the world, just so bad.

4 hours ago, dermott said:

You and your hyperbole.

I’d love to see @Gol15 turn every bit of conversation in to just exactly why Jorginho is the saviour of mankind.

4 minutes ago, Munkunku said:

I’d love to see @Gol15 turn every bit of conversation in to just exactly why Jorginho is the saviour of mankind.

I do for a whole month it if you stop being depressed for a whole month

Just now, Gol15 said:

I do for a whole month it if you stop being depressed for a whole month

Big if.