23 minutes ago, dkw said:

What makes you think that?

Strider is psychic

57 minutes ago, dkw said:

What makes you think that?

Yes I have had ESP experiences yet this is more logic, stadium plans to rebuild or relocate shelved, tough negotiator in the form of Marina to control the purse strings and of course his Visa complications.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

What makes you think that?

"The simplest explanation is usually the most likely"

Roman has no need to own Chelsea. It's investment into a country that he can't be a part of. He doesn't need the status anymore. It takes up his time. There were rumours that his intention was to build the stadium and gift the club to his son. But now he isn't investing in the stadium. Football owners don't typically own clubs for this long. 

If there was a good offer, it makes sense he would seriously consider it. 

Doesn't mean it's definitely the case, but it makes the most sense. 

21 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

"The simplest explanation is usually the most likely"

Roman has no need to own Chelsea. It's investment into a country that he can't be a part of. He doesn't need the status anymore. It takes up his time. There were rumours that his intention was to build the stadium and gift the club to his son. But now he isn't investing in the stadium. Football owners don't typically own clubs for this long. 

If there was a good offer, it makes sense he would seriously consider it. 

Doesn't mean it's definitely the case, but it makes the most sense. 

For me the longer he leaves it without serious investment the less of a return he is going to get. 

2 hours ago, dkw said:

What makes you think that?

2 hours ago, yorkleyblue said:

Strider is psychic

I think you’ll find he saw it in a vision while he was off his nut on psychotics. Some people have no respect!

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

"The simplest explanation is usually the most likely"

Roman has no need to own Chelsea. It's investment into a country that he can't be a part of. He doesn't need the status anymore. It takes up his time. There were rumours that his intention was to build the stadium and gift the club to his son. But now he isn't investing in the stadium. Football owners don't typically own clubs for this long. 

If there was a good offer, it makes sense he would seriously consider it. 

Doesn't mean it's definitely the case, but it makes the most sense. 

He put £250m into the club last season, how is that not investing in the club? 

57 minutes ago, dkw said:

He put £250m into the club last season, how is that not investing in the club? 

Look at you with your facts and reasonableness,  FFS!

So Abramovic is looking to sell up based on:

* Some kind of psychic intuition

* It 'makes sense' based on some random observations (some of which are not even true)

Well, that's me convinced.

2 hours ago, dkw said:

He put £250m into the club last season, how is that not investing in the club? 

I didnt say he's not investing in the club.

If the government hadn't harassed him for no reason the new stadium would have been under construction by now most probably.

48 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I didnt say he's not investing in the club.

Roman has no need to own Chelsea. It's investment into a country that he can't be a part of. 

Yet he has invested, £250m last season. Do why do that if he has no need. 

22 minutes ago, dkw said:

Roman has no need to own Chelsea. It's investment into a country that he can't be a part of. 

Yet he has invested, £250m last season. Do why do that if he has no need. 

I think he is a huge fan of us and passionate about the club. The visa troubles must be infuriating. Hence the reason you get the sack for not making Europe means Roman doesn't get to come and watch us play!

Truthfully though when have we ever really had any idea beyond rumours or reading into things about what his thoughts were? To my knowledge he has never given an interview, we don't know what his plans are.

I can only hope he sticks around. He's given us great success and as you can see at West Ham, Arsenal and United you can have far worse owners. 

Itd be nice for the new stadium to get built but like many I think knocking down the hotel and building the Shed End to the height of the east and west stands would probably do us for a while. The soulless bowl stadiums at Arsenal, Spurs and Atletico cost a bomb, don't generate that much return and ruin any sense of atmosphere.

I was listening to someone the other day say that the decline in atmosphere at the Metropolitano compared to the Calderon is a big factor in Atletico's recent struggles. We don't need that.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

Roman has no need to own Chelsea. It's investment into a country that he can't be a part of. 

Yet he has invested, £250m last season. Do why do that if he has no need. 

So the club who's match day revenues are half that of other London clubs and who are being overtaken by Liverpool and man city as global brands doesn't completely lose value.

He has no need to invest in our long term future. And he isn't. 

15 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

So the club who's match day revenues are half that of other London clubs and who are being overtaken by Liverpool and man city as global brands doesn't completely lose value.

He has no need to invest in our long term future. And he isn't. 

Even if he has no need to do anything, by doing stuff it shows how much he's a great owner by doing these extra things that other owners don't do.

He has done a lot for the long term while we were winning during the short term, this is why our academy is one of the best out there. Roman has shown with his actions that he's a great owner of the club. He was living in London for more than 10 years and suddenly they didn't want to renew his visa, even so he made personal calls to Sarri before he came to be our manager and because of him we have Marina that is doing a great job for the club.

2 hours ago, Gol15 said:

Even if he has no need to do anything, by doing stuff it shows how much he's a great owner by doing these extra things that other owners don't do.

He has done a lot for the long term while we were winning during the short term, this is why our academy is one of the best out there. Roman has shown with his actions that he's a great owner of the club. He was living in London for more than 10 years and suddenly they didn't want to renew his visa, even so he made personal calls to Sarri before he came to be our manager and because of him we have Marina that is doing a great job for the club.

I'm merely pointing out that logically if he got the right offer, I think he'd sell.

29 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I'm merely pointing out that logically if he got the right offer, I think he'd sell.

But if you really love something or someone, there might not be that kind of logic involved or the right offer might not exist.

Think we should be thankful with the bridge as we have it, do we really want a ground like Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham? All those clubs have lost something since moving, atmosphere is the obvious one. The extra capacity would only be filled with corporate and foregein tourist fans who lend nothing to the atmosphere. I think we just need to put our energy into trying to create a better atmosphere inside the bridge.

14 minutes ago, chi blue said:

Think we should be thankful with the bridge as we have it, do we really want a ground like Arsenal, Spurs and West Ham? All those clubs have lost something since moving, atmosphere is the obvious one. The extra capacity would only be filled with corporate and foreign tourist fans who lend nothing to the atmosphere. I think we just need to put our energy into trying to create a better atmosphere inside the bridge.

That's an important point. There's no point in taking solace in having a small stadium with half the revenue of our rivals by virtue of a small ground having a better atmosphere, when we barely have an atmosphere. In some respects, a larger capacity might not necessarily mean more tourist fans, but it might mean that those who can't afford or commit to season tickets can attend a few games and perhaps it is those fans that might provide an atmosphere instead of those who currently have possession of the season tickets?

1 hour ago, Snedger said:

That's an important point. There's no point in taking solace in having a small stadium with half the revenue of our rivals by virtue of a small ground having a better atmosphere, when we barely have an atmosphere. In some respects, a larger capacity might not necessarily mean more tourist fans, but it might mean that those who can't afford or commit to season tickets can attend a few games and perhaps it is those fans that might provide an atmosphere instead of those who currently have possession of the season tickets?

I reckon this is spot on Snedger. Our away crew make a massive noise whereever they go but at home it seems a bit more silent. I'm not sure if the away crowd can't afford to go to home games as well or whether they sit in different parts of the crowd and that disperses the noise. But it is noticable. 

If you could increase and have a few more younger and working class people who might make a bit of noise that would be great. But sadly the focus being on revenue that is unlikely. Instead the majority of the increase like at Spurs and others will be on corporate or hospitality that allow us to charge more.

I actually don't think the matchday revenue is really worth the investment. It would cost us a billion and when most of the money these days comes from commercial and TV (ie Champions League). We'd be better off investing in a good squad to make sure we make the CL every year and measures to improve the atmosphere in the ground we have to make it harder to come to the Bridge and win. 

Personally think we should redevelop the Shed End seats and build backwards into the hotel area to get as close to 50k as we can.

Not sure with the current seating how you would be able to get that grouping that allows a better atmosphere though possibly if the Shed End was developed you could allow groupings of up to six to sit together, some of this might be transfers from existing season ticket holders that just want to sit somewhere with a better atmosphere. 

 

Apparently Utd have just applied to install "assisted standing" at Old Trafford.

20 hours ago, dkw said:

He put £250m into the club last season, how is that not investing in the club? 

I didn't notice any investment of that magnitude. What was it put into and where was it reported?

34 minutes ago, Andy North said:

Apparently Utd have just applied to install "assisted standing" at Old Trafford.

I didn't notice any investment of that magnitude. What was it put into and where was it reported?

It was mentioned during the financial report earlier this year.

50 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Personally think we should redevelop the Shed End seats and build backwards into the hotel area to get as close to 50k as we can.

Not sure with the current seating how you would be able to get that grouping that allows a better atmosphere though possibly if the Shed End was developed you could allow groupings of up to six to sit together, some of this might be transfers from existing season ticket holders that just want to sit somewhere with a better atmosphere. 

 

Palace not renowned for their atmosphere in the past have improved there atmosphere by grouping all the kids (Ultras) together, so can be done. Might need to buy some black hoodies to look the part though

24 minutes ago, dkw said:

It was mentioned during the financial report earlier this year.

You need to go careful reading stuff like that.

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/news/2019/12/31/chelsea-fc-financial-results

The statement clearly indicates that the club were able to invest in the playing staff by careful financial management. This does not mean Roman poured £280m into the club. The club raised this money by selling players and signing new sponsorship deals. There is no indication that Roman put a single penny into the club which actually made a loss.

The club are operating within FFP rules and this forbids owners from pumping huge sums of money into their clubs and distorting the transfer market. Romans personal investment in the club has been minimal for years and I suspect it will remain so until he either sells or his working Visa gets sorted.

In addition to the above I will be watching the clubs transfer activity very closely this summer. The £96m loss is currently being covered by the funds received from the sale of Hazard, Morata and Luiz and we didn't exactly set the market on fire in January.

Will Roman trouser some or all of those funds? We didn't spend in the last two transfer windows so wouldn't there also be a surplus from that? Don't the club factor in a transfer budget every year? They don't rely solely on the sale of players to generate investment in the squad. This being the case we should be expecting an investment next window of circa £200m in the squad. Lets see what happens.

I suspect the board are overjoyed at the success of the academy players and view this as a financial bonus. They know only too well that any potential buyer will be looking at the average age of the squad and see how low it is. The club are ripe for the picking at the moment and if Roman doesn't get a work visa he may well think twice about an offer that puts half a billion in his pocket.