I am not sure what to say about this...

I know :-)

There was a serious impact on my ex's teaching as she could not, that year, do a lesson on 'Stranger Danger' as the lesson would have been 'don't talk to strangers, etc'.

Way off topic. Soz.

My son went to school with a boy called Lami - when he spoke about him for some reason I assumed he was Asian.  The he told me that the boy's full name was actually Lamborghini!  Rumour was he was conceived in one but I think that was very unlikely!

My son went to school with a boy called Lami - when he spoke about him for some reason I assumed he was Asian.  The he told me that the boy's full name was actually Lamborghini!  Rumour was he was conceived in one but I think that was very unlikely!

I know a girl who was conceived in a fire engine her name is Nina.

I know a girl who was conceived in a fire engine her name is Nina.

 

Groan!

Lol

@ESPNFC: Suarez on almost signing for Arsenal: "It would've been a big error that I'd have made had it not been for Gerrard" http://t.co/ThCO05rQ4m

I like this bit:

"He had told me [the previous summer] to play well for Liverpool, give it another year and it will be Bayern Munich, Real Madrid or Barcelona coming for you and then you can go where you want, because you have the quality to play at any of those three clubs."

...oooh Stevie G insinuating those three clubs are better than Liverpool, that'll upset the masses.

should have added Chelsea to that list, that really would have got them going.

I like this bit:

"He had told me [the previous summer] to play well for Liverpool, give it another year and it will be Bayern Munich, Real Madrid or Barcelona coming for you and then you can go where you want, because you have the quality to play at any of those three clubs."

...oooh Stevie G insinuating those three clubs are better than Liverpool, that'll upset the masses.

 

Stevie G telling Suarez that if a bigger club comes in for you then you should consider it.....tinge of regret there Stevie??

 

Oh Pancake

A Russian Football Union executive has admitted that the governing body cannot afford to pay national coach Fabio Capello’s controversial £6.8m annual salary.

 

Sergei Stepashin, a member of the RFU’s executive committee, said Capello’s salary, which has not been paid at all since June, remained unaffordable.

 

“I can declare that the money to pay Capello is not there,” he said. “Clearly it’s wrong to fail to pay the salary of your national team’s coach, but when they signed the contract they should really have thought about how to fund it. Today we’re still looking for a source of funding.”

 

 

 

 

 

Which idiot thought a national team coach was worth paying £6.8m a year in the first place? 

A local MP has written to Sheffield United urging them to change their decision to allow the convicted rapist Ched Evans to train with the club.

 

Paul Blomfield, the Labour MP for Sheffield Central who declares ownership of 100 Sheffield United shares on his website, says the Blades’ decision is “dragging our name through the mud and dividing fans”.

 

In an open letter to the Sheffield United co-chairmen Kevin McCabe and Jim Phipps, Blomfield writes: “It’s because I care so much about our club that I am writing to urge you to reconsider your decision to accept Ched Evans back to train with the team.

 

“The way this issue has been handled by the club is dragging our name through the mud and dividing fans. Yesterday’s decision only makes that situation worse. I really hope that you will reflect further and change your mind.”

 

 

 

 

Personally I don't think it is an MP's place to be using their position as a platform to sway decisions and public opinion about the football club they support. 

The whole thing is a complete mess, not only did they lose their patron, but the clubs reputation is firmly in the dirt.

No one seems to have the balls to make a firm decision / tell him no, sod off. They are saying he's far away from having a contract and nothing is in place, yet they are letting him train, presumably to see if he can make it. No morals or ethics whatsoever.

Edited November 12, 201411 yr by Zola

The guy has every right to resume his career having served his time (although a bit of repentance in public would be nice), however I don't think a single club should actually offer him a contract. I know I wouldn't want my club to be known as one that hires convicted rapists and that's the difference between football and most other lines of work - it's massively beholden to the people who support and follow the team.

 

Sheffield United are simply dragging their name through the mud and fair play to the MP for saying so. He's responsible for Sheffield and it's constituents and I don't see how this type of PR is in anyway good for either.

Clubs have taken on convicted murders, men guilty of domestic violence and more.

Evans has served his time and has every right to resume his career following his release.

A politician who you would have thought would be a spokesman for reform, in my opinion, shouldn't be looking to impose further punishment on someone because he thinks it looks bad.

The problem with this case is that it comes across as a complete stitch up with even the victim not knowing if she said "no". I think we have to put our faith in the justice system and that being the case I'd like to see no club employ a convicted rapist not matter how good a player he may be.

What happens a few years down the line when the verdict is over-turned?

The fact Evans isn't showing any remorse is either a case of he is entirely innocent and feels outraged at the thought that some random emotionally confused woman he had sex with got angry with him after he used her for a one night stand and then decided to get her own back on him in a very sick and sad manner, Which can happen.

 

Then there is the other side of the argument, He could be some genuinely disturbed guy who thinks what he did was 'normal' and it wasn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be and feels no emotions towards the victim just some sadness that he got caught.

 

It's a real tough one for me, Mind you this debate wouldn't be taking place if it wasn't the international break and was a normal Wednesday night where we were 15 minutes away from another European night's football where City play 4-4-2 and get over run in the midfield.  :laugh2:

Like others, I'm torn.  On the one hand, it seems a shaky verdict in the first place AND he's served his time.  On the other, well I wouldn't want Chelsea to be the one to employ him, a convicted rapist.  A football club does seem different to most other jobs in that it is supported and attracts loyalty, it's really a branch of entertainment and I don't think any branch of the entertainment industry would consider employing a convicted rapist..  Would it be different if a local council for instance employed a convicted rapist in an office?  Apart from the fact that fewer people would know?  A tricky one for sure.

 

I was half asleep this morning when it was being discussed on the radio but I seemed to hear the suggestion that Sheffield United were obliged in some way to let him train with them but I can't recall why.  Can anyone else throw any light on this?

Edited November 12, 201411 yr by Beerqueen

Beerqueen, All I know is it was the PFA's request for him to train with them, So maybe because it was his last club? Not sure.

That was probably it.

Like others, I'm torn. On the one hand, it seems a shaky verdict in the first place AND he's served his time. On the other, well I wouldn't want Chelsea to be the one to employ him, a convicted rapist. A football club does seem different to most other jobs in that it is supported and attracts loyalty, it's really a branch of entertainment and I don't think any branch of the entertainment industry would consider employing a convicted rapist.. Would it be different if a local council for instance employed a convicted rapist in an office? Apart from the fact that fewer people would know? A tricky one for sure.

I was half asleep this morning when it was being discussed on the radio but I seemed to hear the suggestion that Sheffield United were obliged in some way to let him train with them but I can't recall why. Can anyone else throw any light on this?

Regarding the entertainment industry Robert Downey Jr. has a few convictions to his name and is now one of the best paid actors in the world, in kids movies.

Roman Polanski has avoided the USA for years as he knows he will be convicted of paedophilia, yet is still regarded as a top director.

The Rolling Stones between them have done enough indecent acts to share between the entire Shed End.

Yet we put footballers on this strange pedestal and expect all of them to be exemplary role models to every one.

Regarding the entertainment industry Robert Downey Jr. has a few convictions to his name and is now one of the best paid actors in the world, in kids movies.

Roman Polanski has avoided the USA for years as he knows he will be convicted of paedophilia, yet is still regarded as a top director.

The Rolling Stones between them have done enough indecent acts to share between the entire Shed End.

Yet we put footballers on this strange pedestal and expect all of them to be exemplary role models to every one.

So difficult a topic. My take is footballers are real sportsmen, professionals who are doing something real for and in front of fans / the public. It is different from the entertainment business which is often based on fantasy, isn't acting pretending for a living? You can't pretend to be a good footballer. It may seem unfair to expect more in sport, but I still like to think that most footballers are good role models compared with other groups.

So difficult a topic. My take is footballers are real sportsmen, professionals who are doing something real for and in front of fans / the public. It is different from the entertainment business which is often based on fantasy, isn't acting pretending for a living? You can't pretend to be a good footballer. It may seem unfair to expect more in sport, but I still like to think that most footballers are good role models compared with other groups.

But just because you are an exceptional athlete why should you be expected to be an exceptional person too?

In an idealistic world these young men all being paid obscene amounts of wealth for kicking a ball around once every few days for our entertainment would be using their spare time and wealth to help the sick, needy and underprivileged but the truth is like most men in their early twenties they're a bit more short sighted than that and who am I to judge, I was exactly the same come pay day... Though my income was a bit more modest.

Point being I think too much is expected of footballers regarding the role model argument and I think Evans has the opportunity to be a role model in the sense that going to prison doesn't have to be the end, he can be a role model to young men like himself who have done idiotic things but don't want it to define them and they want to go back to or start earning an honest living.

 

I don't get it?

sanchez does all the work...