All this heart on sleeve crap is not what makes a good manager...you should be in control of your emotions for majority of the time, not shooting your mouth off and acting like 'one of the fans' most of the time....whether he keeps villa up this season or not, I can see his act wearing very thin with the players pretty quickly

The antithesis of Jose.

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Indeed...Jose obviously not shy in saying what he thinks, but he always says things for a reason, there is method behind it...you don't get that impression from Sherwood at all..plus, Jose backs it up with tactical and man-management nous...Sherwood comes across as a Redknapp type...'talk passionately and loud and hope for the best'.

 

HAHA

Uruguayan water?

Talk of rodgers going to city. Would be very funny to see the scousers reaction, but he would do well at city.

I'm not sure who city would get really. I don't think city is a more attractive job than bayern for guardiola, and I think someone will stay at atletico, now he is being able to spend some money.

I doubt ancelotti will be sacked by madrid, so that would be a none starter. Which leaves probably klopp and rodgers.

I see Klopp as a future Arsenal manager, can't see him at City.

Whoever comes into City will know if they don't win anything in a season then they will be sacked, they will just need to look at Pellegrini. Not many managers will like that prospect especially since Chelsea are so strong with the best manager in the world and also United can outspend any team in this league.

They really should give Pellegrini another season given what he delivered last season, unlike us with Carlo though the City fans seem to be happy with that prospect...

Whoever ends up the City manager though they will not be a patch on Jose and that's what matters.

Talk of rodgers going to city. Would be very funny to see the scousers reaction, but he would do well at city.

I'm not sure who city would get really. I don't think city is a more attractive job than bayern for guardiola, and I think someone will stay at atletico, now he is being able to spend some money.

I doubt ancelotti will be sacked by madrid, so that would be a none starter. Which leaves probably klopp and rodgers.

 

I think there's a fair few candidates for a job like City managers like Blanc and Benetiz are going to be in the mix.

 

Conte as well could possibly be tempted back into club management. 

 

Not sure I see Klopp jumping ship at Dortmund after the season they've had, I don't think he would want to leave on those terms. 

 

Rogers before going to Liverpool said he wouldn't want to manage Chelsea as he was looking to build his career, not ruin it and I think he would take a similar mindset about the City job, too much demand for instant success from the board and Rogers is still building his reputation in club management. 

 

He also has very little European experience and I think that would be vital for City's next appointment. 

Whoever comes into City will know if they don't win anything in a season then they will be sacked, they will just need to look at Pellegrini. Not many managers will like that prospect 

 

People say that about us all the time, yet we still got Ancelotti, AvB (back before he was exposed), Mourinho back.

People say that about us all the time, yet we still got Ancelotti, AvB (back before he was exposed), Mourinho back.

Yeah and it happened with Ancelotti.

Jose is really the only one we have kept on this time around.

The fans were not happy unlike City when Ancelotti and Jose were sacked, that's the difference.

I think there's a fair few candidates for a job like City managers like Blanc and Benetiz are going to be in the mix.

Conte as well could possibly be tempted back into club management.

Not sure I see Klopp jumping ship at Dortmund after the season they've had, I don't think he would want to leave on those terms.

Rogers before going to Liverpool said he wouldn't want to manage Chelsea as he was looking to build his career, not ruin it and I think he would take a similar mindset about the City job, too much demand for instant success from the board and Rogers is still building his reputation in club management.

He also has very little European experience and I think that would be vital for City's next appointment.

I'm not sure blanc or benitez would be an improvement on pelligrini. Conte has the same flaws as pelligrini, successful domestically, poor in Europe.

I doubt rodgers would go to city aswell tbh. Klopp I can see leaving, since I can't see him taking dortmund any further, and it must be frustrating to lose your best players every season.

Would Klopp be chosen after this season though?

It would be strange for a club to bring in someone who has has been what is deemed doemstically anyway as a failure.

Those celebrations from Sherwood last night were utter cringe.

The checking his pulse one to the crowd multiple times was laughable.

Looking forward to them going down with Burnley.

Agreed, when I saw it I actually tensed up with horror, like when you see a car crash.

Agreed, when I saw it I actually tensed up with horror, like when you see a car crash.

I had to rewind it to see if I honestly saw him checking his pulse to the crowd.

A cup final, a league win or even a relegation saving last day absolutely but for a win with 12 games to go?

Please!

I'm not sure blanc or benitez would be an improvement on pelligrini. Conte has the same flaws as pelligrini, successful domestically, poor in Europe.

I doubt rodgers would go to city aswell tbh. Klopp I can see leaving, since I can't see him taking dortmund any further, and it must be frustrating to lose your best players every season.

 

City aren't yet a major draw for the world's best managers in my opinion. 

 

Why would Ancelotti, Pep and even Simeone swap their current clubs for City? What's the attraction of taking the job? 

 

Pelligrini's only successes in Europe have been with City, at least with Benetiz you can argue that he's won trophies at more than one club and has a respectable record in Europe too. Blanc I think is a bit of a pretender with regards to top managers but by being at PSG it's risen his profile a bit. 

Pelligrini's only successes in Europe have been with City

 

I agree with you that City are probably going to be looking for someone with European pedigree, and also that they are going to struggle to attract the truly top-level managers, but Pellegrini took Villarreal to a Champions League semi-final and was an injury time offside goal away from doing the same with Malaga.

Simeone would leave for City that is for sure and although you might find it intriguing to go for Benitez for his record I'm too tired to watch his passionless fat face in the league. Hope he stays another season with Napoli and then goes to America or Australia (far away).

America can have him because we certainly don't want him here!

I agree with you that City are probably going to be looking for someone with European pedigree, and also that they are going to struggle to attract the truly top-level managers, but Pellegrini took Villarreal to a Champions League semi-final and was an injury time offside goal away from doing the same with Malaga.

 

Didn't win anything though did he? No one remembers a semi-finalists when all is said and done and the best managers will be judged on the silverware they bring home to their clubs. 

 

61 year old Pellegrino:

 

Universidad Católica

Copa Chile (1): 1995

Copa Interamericana (1): 1993

 

LDU Quito

Serie A (1): 1999

 

San Lorenzo

Primera División (1): 2000–01

Copa Mercosur (1): 2001

 

River Plate

Primera División (1): 2002–03

 

Villarreal

UEFA Intertoto Cup (1): 2004

 

Manchester City

Premier League (1): 2013–14

Football League Cup (1): 2013–14

 

3 European titles

 

 

 

 

 

 

52 year old Jose...

 

21 European titles

Pinocchio says he wants Harry Kane not to play for the England under 21s this summer.

Player development is doomed when we don't allow youth players to gain tournament experience, happens everytime.

The likes of Spain and Germany will have their best youth players there but somehow we always think our youth players are above it.

 

On a different note, most of the under 21's are first team players for their teams. That's quite some progress from a few years ago.

Ah sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by 'successes in Europe'. Definitely deserves credit though, he built two damn good sides at Villarreal and Malaga (before most of his players were poached at least).

 

He seems to perform better in European competition with unfancied sides than he does with the bigger ones (judging at least by his failures with Real and City), I wonder if he's better suited to a club with lesser expectations. Maybe someone like Schalke or AC Milan (in their current state)?

On a different note, most of the under 21's are first team players for their teams. That's quite some progress from a few years ago.

 

It's a definite step forward and I'm sure it can be seen as a argument that the Homegrown Rule is working. 

 

But if the FA are serious about the progress of the national team then they need to stop clubs dictating that the Under 21's don't play these tournaments. 

 

Ideally you'd like to see Kane, Sterling and Barkley lining up for us in the summer as a show of the progress being made but I would wager that none of them ending up going. 

Bloody hell, apparently in their last game Inzaghi played a 4-diamond-2 with Alex at left back... no wonder they didn't score!

Ah sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by 'successes in Europe'. Definitely deserves credit though, he built two damn good sides at Villarreal and Malaga (before most of his players were poached at least).

 

He seems to perform better in European competition with unfancied sides than he does with the bigger ones (judging at least by his failures with Real and City), I wonder if he's better suited to a club with lesser expectations. Maybe someone like Schalke or AC Milan (in their current state)?

I'd argue he didn't under perform at Real Madrid. Sure he was poor in the Copa Del Rey and the Champions League but he was still sacked by racking up a phenomenal 96 points for Real Madrid in the La Liga but Barcelona were just a class above everyone finishing with 99 points that year.

 

I'm no fan of Pellegrini but I thought he was a little harshly done by Real Madrid especially considering he performed well in the La Liga despite finishing second in 2009-2010. 

It's a definite step forward and I'm sure it can be seen as a argument that the Homegrown Rule is working. 

 

But if the FA are serious about the progress of the national team then they need to stop clubs dictating that the Under 21's don't play these tournaments. 

 

Ideally you'd like to see Kane, Sterling and Barkley lining up for us in the summer as a show of the progress being made but I would wager that none of them ending up going. 

Kane really wants to go, he's talked about it quite passionately and spoken how important it is so it'll be hard for Spurs to stop him or convince him otherwise. Martinez understands the importance of it, I can't see him standing in Barkley's way and with the way he's been playing he desperately needs it more than anyone else. Sterling will be tricky, mainly because the senior team is already relying on him as it is. 

Kane really wants to go, he's talked about it quite passionately and spoken how important it is so it'll be hard for Spurs to stop him or convince him otherwise. Martinez understands the importance of it, I can't see him standing in Barkley's way and with the way he's been playing he desperately needs it more than anyone else. Sterling will be tricky, mainly because the senior team is already relying on him as it is. 

 

I admire your confidence in those players being allowed to go with the Under 21's but historically those top players conveniently get a little niggling injury that just so happens to rule them out at the last minute. 

 

We'll have to wait and see I suppose. 

I'd argue he didn't under perform at Real Madrid. Sure he was poor in the Copa Del Rey and the Champions League but he was still sacked by racking up a phenomenal 96 points for Real Madrid in the La Liga but Barcelona were just a class above everyone finishing with 99 points that year.

 

I'm no fan of Pellegrini but I thought he was a little harshly done by Real Madrid especially considering he performed well in the La Liga despite finishing second in 2009-2010. 

 

I do think he's a decent manager and did reasonably well in the league considering Barca were at the height of their powers, but Real lost both league games to Barca that season without even scoring a goal.

 

Also, he was undeniably poor in Europe for Real Madrid. Being beaten in the last 16 by a Lyon side which included Jean Makoun and Boumsong definitely warrants looking at oneself in the mirror for a little while afterwards...

 

And let's not forget the legendary thrashing against Alcorcon!

All valid points but I just feel like that a manager who racks up 96 points in the domestic league yet still falls short in winning the league is very unlucky. He's biggest downfall was his struggles outside the La Liga and of course losing to Barcelona twice which would haven't gone down well with those higher up in the Real Madrid hierarchy.

 

Interesting a lot of people see him as dead man walking at Manchester City. I suspect they're right as he was lucky to win the EPL season especially as Liverpool squandered their chances in the last few matches and he hasn't done anything significant since then. If Guardiola is available I think Man City would hire him in a heartbeat.