Wouldnt want him here next season, goals or not. The trouble he brings (not just for himself but the enitre team) is not worth the goals he brings to the team.

He now has a big bullseye painted on his head, every team will target him the same way everton did all match and quite often he will lose control to put us a man down.

Those who think we wont be able to attract players without CL are simply deluded in my opinion. Westham, spurs and dippers have all attracted plenty of awesome players over the years without CL football. We can get by for a summer just fine.

You say he has a bull's-eye because of the weekend but Everton just did what most teams do with Costa. It's not a new thing by the way, it's been going on for more than 18 months now....

On the players issue, of course we can still attract very good players but what people are meaning is that we cannot compete with the City's, United, Barca's, Bayerns and so on for the very best because we don't have the money or CL football to offer. That's not delusion that's a fact now.

You say he has a bull's-eye because of the weekend but Everton just did what most teams do with Costa. It's not a new thing by the way, it's been going on for more than 18 months now....

On the players issue, of course we can still attract very good players but what people are meaning is that we cannot compete with the City's, United, Barca's, Bayerns and so on for the very best because we don't have the money or CL football to offer. That's not delusion that's a fact now.

 

I dint say its because of everton. Although, I dont agree that its been going on since the last 18 months. Think its going on for about a year now, or atleast thats when I first noticed it (home game against PSG last season). Rergardless of when it started to happen, Costa is too much work for whatever the return be.

 

As to the players that can help us compete with Barca and Bayerns of this world, Costa is himself not on the same level of those players (Suarez and Lewandowski) and we were no where near competing with Barca or bayern last season either.

I dint say its because of everton. Although, I dont agree that its been going on since the last 18 months. Think its going on for about a year now, or atleast thats when I first noticed it (home game against PSG last season). Rergardless of when it started to happen, Costa is too much work for whatever the return be.

As to the players that can help us compete with Barca and Bayerns of this world, Costa is himself not on the same level of those players (Suarez and Lewandowski) and we were no where near competing with Barca or bayern last season either.

We couldn't even land a Costa now.

There are 2 teams in this league alone who can offer more than we can.

Costa was one of the best strikers in Europe when he came here.

He is a MARMITE player,and i like MARMITE.

We couldn't even land a Costa now.

There are 2 teams in this league alone who can offer more than we can.

Costa was one of the best strikers in Europe when he came here.

 

We can land a striker of the same quality of Costa anyday. Icardi for one has similar ability to Costa and potentially a higher ceiling. 

 

Although he scored a lot of goals in that one season he was never among the best strikers in europe. You just need to look at how many teams were after him apart from us in 2014. He had a brilliant season but he is no Drogba.

We can land a striker of the same quality of Costa anyday. Icardi for one has similar ability to Costa and potentially a higher ceiling.

Although he scored a lot of goals in that one season he was never among the best strikers in europe. You just need to look at how many teams were after him apart from us in 2014. He had a brilliant season but he is no Drogba.

Really....

Why have we been bringing in flops like Falcao and Pato when we can bring in someone like Costa "Anyday"?

Seriously this isn't Championship Manager

Costa has been a net negative for Chelsea since he arrived. For every bit of skill there have been three or four episodes of petulance or bad behaviour. He doesn't have the pace to outrun most centre backs and is getting slower. He doesn't rank with other top Chelsea strikers of the last 15 years - Hasselbaink, Gudjohnsen or Drogba, for example. If we can get a decent offer for him in the summer he should go.

I think he will leave. Top player but too many baggage. Hope we fleece ATM as much possible that if they prove stubborn in letting us get Griezmann in return. Perfect option for SS role in Conte's 442/352 system.

i think many of you are in hyperbole mode here regarding him. "net negative"? seriously? he was one of the main instrument of our title last season, and even though he was awful the first few months this season, he has been improving ever since. without him, we would definitely be in worse position than where we are right now

i don't deny that costa is a dirty player, but he has been working on his emotion after the incident earlier this season (i don't remember what exactly). but we need to understand it's not exactly easy with the media and opposition players bullying you all the time, not to mention now even many chelsea fans seem to oppose him

do you not remember how drogba was diving a lot? did you judge him as "a complete w*nker"? were you lot "embarrassed" and "want him out of the club"? the point is, chelsea was never (and still isn't) a virtuous and saintly club

Really....

Why have we been bringing in flops like Falcao and Pato when we can bring in someone like Costa "Anyday"?

Seriously this isn't Championship Manager

 

It was by will, not by necessity that we brought in Falcao and Pato.

 

As champions of England we could have bought just about any striker in europe apart from the very elite ones like Suarez, Lewandowski and Aguero.

It was by will, not by necessity that we brought in Falcao and Pato.

As champions of England we could have bought just about any striker in europe apart from the very elite ones like Suarez, Lewandowski and Aguero.

Yes and we are in a month or 2 away from no longer being champions of England and will not be in the Champions League.

If you don't think that will have a direct impact on who we are able attract then I don't know what else to say.....

Yes and we are in a month or 2 away from no longer being champions of England and will not be in the Champions League.

If you don't think that will have a direct impact on who we are able attract then I don't know what else to say.....

 

Think you didnt get my intital post at all. Agree that our ability to attract top top players will be diminished, we might not be able to land another Fabregas or Hazard this summer.

 

BUT, Costa is not in that class of players and players similar in ability to Costa (and a lot less antics) will still be available. Icardi, Lacazette, Morata, Aubamayang take your pick.

Yes and we are in a month or 2 away from no longer being champions of England and will not be in the Champions League.

If you don't think that will have a direct impact on who we are able attract then I don't know what else to say.....

 

I don't think being out of the Champions League for one season will hurt us much personally, and I'm sure whatever players we bring in will have that added as bonus incentive in their contract to qualify for it again next season. If we strengthen correctly under the new manager we should be back up challenging for the title next season.

 

If we were out of the Champions League for a few seasons I could understand, but this season has been a massive blip, just like Dortmund had last year in the Bundesliga. In regards to Dortmund I think Aubemayang would be a great option for us in the summer.

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by Malcolm9

i think many of you are in hyperbole mode here regarding him. 

 

hyperbole mode ? seriously ? 

 

some of us have got moral issues with Costa, why can't some of you understand that ? maybe you live your life in a similar confrontational way to Costa ? I don't.

Costa has been a net negative for Chelsea since he arrived. For every bit of skill there have been three or four episodes of petulance or bad behaviour. He doesn't have the pace to outrun most centre backs and is getting slower. He doesn't rank with other top Chelsea strikers of the last 15 years - Hasselbaink, Gudjohnsen or Drogba, for example. If we can get a decent offer for him in the summer he should go.

Net negative? I think the trophy which we won because of him outweighs all the baggage he brings.

hyperbole mode ? seriously ? 

 

some of us have got moral issues with Costa, why can't some of you understand that ? maybe you live your life in a similar confrontational way to Costa ? I don't.

 

With all due respect, this is the slippery slope I alluded to earlier. I won't insult your intelligence by giving the obvious examples but I will say that is Costa's 'confrontational style' really the biggest moral issue one could cite in our club or in modern football as a whole? Come on, let's be real for a second.

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by ShedEnder91

i do not think costa is a dirty player, very confrontational and a wind up yes. Under hiddink he has improved big time, he lost it against everton and it was not clever but at least it shows he is bothered .I can not see why he would not keep improving under the right guidance

With all due respect, this is the slippery slope I alluded to earlier. I won't insult your intelligence by giving the obvious examples but I will say that is Costa's 'confrontational style' really the biggest moral issue one could cite in our club or in modern football as a whole? Come on, let's be real for a second.

 

Why can't you understand that some of us have issues with his whole persona, I admit he is probably a decent bloke off the pitch by all accounts, but this tough man persona is fooling nobody any more, the snarling in the ref's faces in particular is a very nasty and vile way of acting. I can understand why you don't have issues with this, but I can't work out why you don't see why some of us would.

Why can't you understand that some of us have issues with his whole persona, I admit he is probably a decent bloke off the pitch by all accounts, but this tough man persona is fooling nobody any more, the snarling in the ref's faces in particular is a very nasty and vile way of acting. I can understand why you don't have issues with this, but I can't work out why you don't see why some of us would.

 

I can absolutely understand that, and I've said that many times. I've also said that I'm not 100% okay with his demeanor sometimes.

 

I just think it's inadvisable to bring moral judgments into it but not apply that to others. It seems myopic at best, wilfully dishonest at worst and I think it adds little to the discussion.

 

For me it's about judging people fairly. I do understand why people don't like his aggression and for me it detracts from his game. But at the same time I love his passion and I love what he brings to the team. When people say he's been a net negative though, I seriously have to wonder what they've been watching for the last couple of seasons.

 

I've been critical of him but I've also praised him and I think that a balanced view is what all our players deserve. But bringing moral arguments into it? Come on, is that really a rabbit hole you want to peer into?

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by ShedEnder91

Morals?

 

Well, nice to have and all.....but I'd rather have someone in the squad who is an immoral fighter rather than certain players whose moral issues include essentially being a thief every time they collect their pay cheque ( I was always told that if you get paid for a job without actually doing it, you're no better than a thief....i believe it too)

hyperbole mode ? seriously ? 

 

some of us have got moral issues with Costa, why can't some of you understand that ? maybe you live your life in a similar confrontational way to Costa ? I don't.

 

if your morality is that sensitive against anything footballer does in the pitch, i think you're gonna have a hard time enjoying football, especially supporting chelsea. like i said, when drogba dived here and there, did you have moral issue with it? when dennis wise was, well, being dennis wise, did you have moral issue as well?

yes, i understand people can have moral issue. i sometimes get uncomfortable too watching him fight with others. but i don't think his attitude (in this level) warrants him to be gotten rid of, especially in the past few months where he has improved his emotion a lot. how many time in the last few months he actually got in a fight? only a few, contrast to last season and early this season. even when he got in a fight, most of it is understandable (at least from my point of view). for example against everton, being bullied by barry, conceded two goals in space of minutes, even torres would be frustrated

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by magichat

How can you moan about a 'dirty' player that will bang in 20goals/season. If Chelsea went out and signed Suarez in summer (for arguments sake, obviously impossible) would you all be moaning and saying you don't want him? 

 

Ron Harris was a dirty player yet he's a Chesea great, nobody cares that he was a hard nut. 

 

If people seriously want Costa out they have serious issues. Without Europe we have no chance of attracting another high calibre striker. 

 

Think you didnt get my intital post at all. Agree that our ability to attract top top players will be diminished, we might not be able to land another Fabregas or Hazard this summer.

 

BUT, Costa is not in that class of players and players similar in ability to Costa (and a lot less antics) will still be available. Icardi, Lacazette, Morata, Aubamayang take your pick.

 

Lacazette won't leave a champions league side in Dortmund and if he does it certainly won't be for Chelsea. Icardi has been a shadow of himself last year and at the end of the day he's just a poacher, only as good as those feeding him. Lacazette has been sh*te since Fekir has been injured and he can't rely on him anymore. Morata is not prolific,goals in 27 games this year? behave. 

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by RIP Mourinho

when drogba dived here and there, did you have moral issue with it? when dennis wise was, well, being dennis wise, did you have moral issue as well?

 

Yes and yes.

Lacazette won't leave a champions league side in Dortmund and if he does it certainly won't be for Chelsea. Icardi has been a shadow of himself last year and at the end of the day he's just a poacher, only as good as those feeding him. Lacazette has been sh*te since Fekir has been injured and he can't rely on him anymore. Morata is not prolific,goals in 27 games this year? behave. 

 

You having a laugh mate. Di Maria went from a CL winning club to a club without CL football. Money talks and Chelsea can pay way more than Dortmund can, Aubemayang is surely getable.

 

Rest all all players 7-6 years younger than Costa and can far surpass his ability in the next year or two. A poor season for any of those should be looked at as an opportunity to buy low.

You having a laugh mate. Di Maria went from a CL winning club to a club without CL football. Money talks and Chelsea can pay way more than Dortmund can, Aubemayang is surely getable.

 

Rest all all players 7-6 years younger than Costa and can far surpass his ability in the next year or two. A poor season for any of those should be looked at as an opportunity to buy low.

Well rumour is that RM will be in for Aubemayng with a bid of 70m.......if that is even remotely true then he is not gettable