So. No one must slag Jose (the special one) Mourhino off. To do so is sacrilege and utterly utterly wrong. One must not have their anti "special one" opinions on this forum because it is an idiotic opinion that has no substance. So if you're not a Mourinho supporter please keep your thoughts to yourself or join another forum. Thank you!

 

Lazy. Maybe try creating an argument instead of erasing everything Jose did right whilst magnifying things done wrong and putting 100% of the blame on him.

 

But its easier to just cry woe is me people wont let me slag him off without rebuttal.

 

But I guess the proof is in this post, as some people aren't here to discuss but rather just to slag off.

Edited March 13, 201610 yr by Stim

The squad wasn't weakened. We just didn't really improve it

Well come the end of this season I would swap Begovic, Baba and Falcao for Cech, Luis and Drogba.

So yes, I think we did go into the season with a weaker squad.

Hey man, not worth getting in trouble calling people names. Look at what happened to Diego when he was getting needled by Barry and his mates yesterday. 

 

Here, this'll make you smile. Betis play Bilbao today and Musonda's playing. It'll be the 100th game between the two and they're tied on 33 wins each and 33 draws. 

 

Well not smile, but it's interesting. Make a little edit though.

Cheers mate

Lazy. Maybe try creating an argument instead of erasing everything Jose did right whilst magnifying things done wrong and putting 100% of the blame on him.

But its easier to just cry woe is me people wont let me slag him off without rebuttal.

But I guess the proof is in this post, as some people aren't here to discuss but rather just to slag off.

Exactly. The anti Mourinho brigade get slagged off for their opinions. Not being lazy, stating a fact

Edited March 13, 201610 yr by Little Boy Blue

So. No one must slag Jose (the special one) Mourhino off. To do so is sacrilege and utterly utterly wrong. One must not have their anti "special one" opinions on this forum because it is an idiotic opinion that has no substance. So if you're not a Mourinho supporter please keep your thoughts to yourself or join another forum. Thank you!

Worship or be whipped. Situation's a tight one, up to you to fight or run.

The mess this club is in currently is not Mourinho's fault, he made mistakes yes, but the disgraceful summer we had is exactly why we're in this situation.

Mourinho told the board that the squad needed refreshment and they just didn't deliver. To let Petr Cech go to Arsenal and follow it up by signing a couple of average players is just farcical, coupled with the fact that the club conned the fans with the Marquinhos bid, they had absolutely no intention of signing him, they just wanted to make it look like they tried.

Even if you win the league at a canter like we did in 2014/15, you have to refresh the squad. The same 20 or so players can't trot out and win the league again, other teams will have strengthened considerably and the pressure to retain the title is very real. There needs to be new blood in the squad to make sure the same drive and motivation for places is alive to ensure the best possible title challenge. Despite Ivanovic's woeful performances from August to December, he knew that he would be in the starting line-up no matter what because there was absolutely no competition for places, our best right-back was playing left back because the manager didn't trust our new £20 million signing, Ivanovic was untouchable.

Look at City in 2012/13. They haven't had the same fall that we have because they actually started relatively well, but it's the same story. Mancini knew the squad needed new faces but the board only signed squad fillers like Rodwell and Sinclair.

The best example is Bayern Munich. Every year they know they will walk the Bundesliga, but every single year they bring in a marquee signing to keep the competition for places (spending big on Vidal), as well as bleeding in some younger players (Kingsley Coman).

Jose Mourinho made some mistakes this season but he was the victim of the awful way this club is being run

Exactly. The anti Mourinho brigade get slagged off for their opinions. Not being lazy, stating a fact

 

It's rather surprising there is an 'anti-Mourinho' brigade. That's not what I'm seeing here though.

 

There's some who recognise his failings but also recognise there are fundamental issues at this club that go beyond the coach, and there's those who want to lay everything at the feet of Jose.

 

You're stating an opinion by the way, not a fact. Same as everyone else here.

LBB pls endeavor to use "my opinion". You never know when you could get in trouble...

Exactly. The anti Mourinho brigade get slagged off for their opinions. Not being lazy, stating a fact

 

Today I learned refuting an opinion is slagging off.

It's rather surprising there is an 'anti-Mourinho' brigade. That's not what I'm seeing here though. OK. I agree with you and I also think the problem goes much deeper than Mourhino, but I'm not into the Mourinho lovefest. I found him to be arrogant, self obsessed, embarrassing (at times), blamed everyone but himself , ungracious in defeat etc. I wasn't overly fussed on his style of football his handling of our youth players and obviously the players he got rid of. But hey, that's just my opinion.

 

There's some who recognise his failings but also recognise there are fundamental issues at this club that go beyond the coach, and there's those who want to lay everything at the feet of Jose.

 

You're stating an opinion by the way, not a fact. Same as everyone else here.

Today I learned refuting an opinion is slagging off.

Oh f**k it.

JM won the premiership last year with this team.  Won't add any more. Mez

and yet this season look at them despite having Mourinho (one of the best in the game) and Hiddink (prior to this spell, highest win % of any BPL manager to manager more than 10 games EVER)......

Ahhhhh the famous net spend that we used to lAugh at arsenal for when defending wenger. Only thing is we didn't sell our best players that Jose wanted to keep (cech was second choice and staying wouldn't have made much difference to our plight).

Your net spend table is just clutching and shying away from the fact that the same team Jose won the league with and got praised for is the same team that he failed with 3 months later.

The blame must ultimately lie with the manager. If he had to sell Costa Cesc Eden then I could understand.

Please people get your head out of his behind. Wonder if he's still one of us if he signs for utd. Pathetic

Funny, last time he sold players you felt critical to the success of this club, Mourinho won the double with us.....

 

maybe he'd of done it again this season if instead of those 3 players we got 3-5 other good talents who actually wanted to start playing football in August and not December....

 

EDIT:  And for the it was 100% Mourinho's fault, then why are we not fighting for the top 4 right now considering how poor the league has been since Hiddink took over?  Why are we out of the CL?  Why are we out of the FA cup?  

 

Is Mourinho wearing a Hiddink mask and a fat suit or is it that those problems have magically remained despite the one and only cause of them being removed?

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by Barry Bridges

 

EDIT:  And for the it was 100% Mourinho's fault, then why are we not fighting for the top 4 right now considering how poor the league has been since Hiddink took over?  Why are we out of the CL?  Why are we out of the FA cup?  

 

Is Mourinho wearing a Hiddink mask and a fat suit or is it that those problems have magically remained despite the one and only cause of them being removed?

 

Chelsea has been in top 4 in the  form table  since Jose was sacked

Chelsea has been in top 4 in the form table since Jose was sacked

True, but then again Hiddink has mainly only played teams in the bottom half of the table and has only beaten one top table side....Arsenal.

It is top 4 form technically, but with 7 draws in 13 games..... and again, mainly against bottom table teams...............I saw thats more an indictment of the quality of the top teams in the BPL right now rather than accurate assessment of how much better CFC has been since mid-December.

edit: and if you want to include the cup games as did, certainly not top 4 form anymore or we'd still be in one.

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by Barry Bridges

Chelsea's last 11 signings: Begovic, Rahman, Pedro, Djilobodji, Michael Hector, Marco Amelia, Miazga, Kenedy, Falcao, Pato, Danilo Pantic

 

Begovic is a good back up goalie, Pedro runs around a lot & has scored three goals,  Kenedy has promise and scored 2 goals

 

now waiting to hear that Jose hand picked them all except Pedro & Miazaga,   and he's a right C who caused the 1st team's downfall singlehandedly 

This can of worms must be opened everyday. Pls mod lock or delete thread.

Mata, Schurrle, KDB, Lukaku, Luiz, Luis, Bertrand, Salah, Cuadrado etc

Would all he handy players right now, to bad they were deemed not good enough.

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by chef

Mata, Schurrle, KDB, Lukaku, Luiz, Luis, Bertrand, Salah, Cuadrado etc

Would all he handy players right now, to bad they were deemed not good enough.

Lol. Salah, Cuadrado ? Guess you didn't watch them play for us.

Lol. Salah, Cuadrado ? Guess you didn't watch them play for us.

No need for lols boss, both doing very well since they've left us.

They would both be handy atm.

Edited March 14, 201610 yr by chef

No need for lols boss, both doing very well since they've left us.

Sure. In italy. Here they looked like toddlers

Sure. In italy. Here they looked like toddlers

They were never given much of a chance tbh.

As they are showing in Italy they could have been handy.

They were never given much of a chance tbh.

As they are showing in Italy they could have been handy.

Italy has always favoured speed merchants with no skill. That is why they do so well there. In PL, they will revert back to type. But whatever.

Lol. Salah, Cuadrado ? Guess you didn't watch them play for us.

They hardly played lol. Like Moses

They hardly played lol. Like Moses

Whatever I saw of them, I didn't think they should be getting more playing time. What's done is done.