18 hours ago, Floyd25 said:

Blimey, you're legit, good effort. Posting from your mothers basement?

Nah was posting from your mother's basement mate

5 minutes ago, marouane chamakh said:

Nah was posting from your mother's basement mate

She doesn't have one. 

15 hours ago, didierforever said:

Do you remember how many FA cups chelsea has won? I dont. But I do remember each PL and thats why UNTIL and UNLESS its mathematically done, PL is the main priority. Cups like FA has significance only for the winners, no one else. 

We totally outclassed United yesterday. Dont know how massive a difference would Ake for GC and Zouma for Azpi would have made. Specially against an attack force that is missing Zlatan, Rooney, Martial.

Think about it logically. Seriously. We had a chance (which we took) to get into the semis. United had Ibra and Martial both out. Two key players. Why would we rest our best team to play players who have barely played a part. It would of been stupid. Like someone said, you don't value importance of FA Cup. Other fans have a different mindset and probably is a culture clash thing. Me being British, I have always loved the FA Cup and saw it as a treasured trophy. I know it not might have the seriousness as it did few seasons ago but it still is a big trophy and espec if you are on verge of winning title, winning the FA Cup is a perfect double and at this stage of FA Cup no idiotic manager is going to play fringe players. Makes no sense. Our game is 5 days time after United match. We have no reason to start likes of Chalobah (especially) and not put out our best team. This was United we were playing against, not Wolves.

Like I said if you want to see how even foreign managers take FA Cup seriously, look at Guardiola who virtually played his best team against Middlesbrough and have even a tougher and important match on Wednesday. We have no Europe so got to take the FA Cup seriously and I mean playing regular first team players. Only rotations I said should happen is Matic for Fabregas and Willian for Pedro. That is exactly what happened. I just wonder what kind of team you expect us to play if we reach final....

8 minutes ago, Floyd25 said:

She doesn't have one. 

There's a lot she keeps secret from you then

When you see that rednose drunk f**k and Charlton at every manure game this year you know that politic's first and sport's second.

FA is a f**king Joke! And this year The c**t can critisize refs left and right without any punishment.  He just needed to move to manure. 

All that hatred towards manure has returned. All those flashbacks of the time when rednose drunk f**k was in charge. f**king dirty c**ts. 

The red card just made the lose more acceptable to Jose and his followers. As soon as we got into our rhythm their game plan was to sit deep, launch the hopeful long ball to the quick men, and hope one get behind us. Jose had no plan to beat us with attacking football, or even playing football based on the evidence. We didn't put them away like we should have, that's why they still have some grounds to argue about referee decisions.

2 hours ago, marouane chamakh said:

There's a lot she keeps secret from you then

That's low, I'm deeply hurt. Good effort.

14 hours ago, BelgradeCFC said:

I think these pundits are spot on:

 

 

I think the best point they made was about the tactic from the outset.

 

No doubt going toe to toe with us would have been stupid but the level of cynicism in the tactics for this match is what many consider beyond the standards of Manchester United. I'm 11 minutes in so far watching the match for the first time and its already clear their only aim is to foul and kick any of our attacking players. That is going to make Joses rope shorter if there are no results. 

One of the commentators mentioned Fergies' teams were up for a kick as well but to this extent? They'd be no nonsense but this bordered on Spurs at home last season except that you could see this was planned until the red, Spurs was just pure frustration 

2 hours ago, STATS said:

Think about it logically. Seriously. We had a chance (which we took) to get into the semis. United had Ibra and Martial both out. Two key players. Why would we rest our best team to play players who have barely played a part. It would of been stupid. Like someone said, you don't value importance of FA Cup. Other fans have a different mindset and probably is a culture clash thing. Me being British, I have always loved the FA Cup and saw it as a treasured trophy. I know it not might have the seriousness as it did few seasons ago but it still is a big trophy and espec if you are on verge of winning title, winning the FA Cup is a perfect double and at this stage of FA Cup no idiotic manager is going to play fringe players. Makes no sense. Our game is 5 days time after United match. We have no reason to start likes of Chalobah (especially) and not put out our best team. This was United we were playing against, not Wolves.

Like I said if you want to see how even foreign managers take FA Cup seriously, look at Guardiola who virtually played his best team against Middlesbrough and have even a tougher and important match on Wednesday. We have no Europe so got to take the FA Cup seriously and I mean playing regular first team players. Only rotations I said should happen is Matic for Fabregas and Willian for Pedro. That is exactly what happened. I just wonder what kind of team you expect us to play if we reach final....

Playing a final against arsenal/city is simply not the same as playing a QF at home against a massively depleted  united side.

"Rest our best team". Do you even remember the team I put forward? It had Alonso, Azpi, Matic/Kante, Costa, Willian, Hazard. 6 out of 10 that actually started. Starting a back 3 of Zouma-JT-Ake against a Zlatan sans united is hardly "resting our best team". So seriously stop going OTT.

The time for resting players will be when we have a 10 point lead with 3 to play. We have 1 match a week and every match from here on is huge for us, no reason to rest anyone at this point. 

2 hours ago, didierforever said:

Playing a final against arsenal/city is simply not the same as playing a QF at home against a massively depleted  united side.

"Rest our best team". Do you even remember the team I put forward? It had Alonso, Azpi, Matic/Kante, Costa, Willian, Hazard. 6 out of 10 that actually started. Starting a back 3 of Zouma-JT-Ake against a Zlatan sans united is hardly "resting our best team". So seriously stop going OTT.

Zouma, JT and Ake? Our settled defence is Azpi, Cahill and Luiz. There is no need to rotate the whole defence. It was not a depleted United team for a start. They had a couple key injuries but still not to be underestimated. When you play against a top team you just don't rotate your backline and replace them with your fring players which what all three have been this season. Azpi, Cahill and Luiz don't play again till Monday. Seriously, it might not have the respect it used to do or might not be as big as the PL but it is a big trophy and one that Conte wants to win and one that majority of people take seriously. No manager is ever going to do that against a big team at this stage of the competition it is ludicrous and the fact United had key players missing was our incentive to put them to the sword by going our strongest team to knock another top team out. Zouma, JT and Ake have barely played together this season. Not the game to play all three together pal.

10 minutes ago, STATS said:

Zouma, JT and Ake? Our settled defence is Azpi, Cahill and Luiz. There is no need to rotate the whole defence. It was not a depleted United team for a start. They had a couple key injuries but still not to be underestimated. When you play against a top team you just don't rotate your backline and replace them with your fring players which what all three have been this season. Azpi, Cahill and Luiz don't play again till Monday. Seriously, it might not have the respect it used to do or might not be as big as the PL but it is a big trophy and one that Conte wants to win and one that majority of people take seriously. No manager is ever going to do that against a big team at this stage of the competition it is ludicrous and the fact United had key players missing was our incentive to put them to the sword by going our strongest team to knock another top team out. Zouma, JT and Ake have barely played together this season. Not the game to play all three together pal.

Mate, i am not going to go in circles again and again. I have explained multiple why I wanted the team that  i wanted. Just go back and give it a read

Again, I did not complain once when the team sheets came out. I am not even complaining now about why so and so players were not played. It was MY OPINION, on whom to start. And I have given my reasoning. I am not slating Conte or anybody for that matter, so just find it surprising when people are still going on and on about this.

For me, it was the perfect oppurtunity to test Ake and Nat. Zouma has already shown to be a more than good enough CB at the PL level. 

1 hour ago, didierforever said:

Mate, i am not going to go in circles again and again. I have explained multiple why I wanted the team that  i wanted. Just go back and give it a read

Again, I did not complain once when the team sheets came out. I am not even complaining now about why so and so players were not played. It was MY OPINION, on whom to start. And I have given my reasoning. I am not slating Conte or anybody for that matter, so just find it surprising when people are still going on and on about this.

For me, it was the perfect oppurtunity to test Ake and Nat. Zouma has already shown to be a more than good enough CB at the PL level. 

Why test those players and risk it when you have two others who would fit in much better? There's a time to play them, I for example would prefer to see them against Palace, and there's a time to put your best players out to secure a win

Duh, we won the match without fuss, no one got injured or suspended, and people are still complaining. It's a 1/4 final against United, even without Zlatan and injured ones ( Rashford played despite being ruled out), we needed to respect the game and play our best 11. We got no games until Saturday, and players had a week rest, there's no point rest/rotate them. Could we have done with Zouma/JT/Ake? That's hindsight, but it would be pretty foolish if we lose the game after resting the 3 first choice defenders. Zouma is no way near match fit, it's safe to say unless we get the title all wrapped up and others injured, he won't get a start. JT's physical limitation obvious, we really don't want him take on Rashford 1 on 1. Ake is debatable, but he couldn't even get time off the bench.

27 minutes ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

Why test those players and risk it when you have two others who would fit in much better? There's a time to play them, I for example would prefer to see them against Palace, and there's a time to put your best players out to secure a win

Because next season these guys (Zouma, Ake) are going to be our back up CBs. We will be playing near 50-55 games (I hope) and need to know if they will be capable. Hence the test. I dont think a united team sans Zlatan was going to do us any harm and it would have been a calculated risk. 

And for posters starting their posts with a "DUH". Try and read through stuff mate. No one is complaining. Its simply a discussion which has been dragged on since pre-match. understand the difference,

 

Manchester United manager Jose Mourinho left seething as team's scheduled Heathrow flight failed to show on time after defeat by Chelsea

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4314050/Jose-Mourinho-angry-Heathrow-flight-failed-time.html#ixzz4bLIsgG37

6 hours ago, didierforever said:

Because next season these guys (Zouma, Ake) are going to be our back up CBs. We will be playing near 50-55 games (I hope) and need to know if they will be capable. Hence the test. I dont think a united team sans Zlatan was going to do us any harm and it would have been a calculated risk. 

And for posters starting their posts with a "DUH". Try and read through stuff mate. No one is complaining. Its simply a discussion which has been dragged on since pre-match. understand the difference,

I wud rather they play in a league game than a knockout game. We have a 10 point lead in the league. Heck we cud play once we have won the league. Right now we just need our untouchables to get us past the finishline

7 hours ago, didierforever said:

Because next season these guys (Zouma, Ake) are going to be our back up CBs. We will be playing near 50-55 games (I hope) and need to know if they will be capable. Hence the test. I dont think a united team sans Zlatan was going to do us any harm and it would have been a calculated risk. 

And for posters starting their posts with a "DUH". Try and read through stuff mate. No one is complaining. Its simply a discussion which has been dragged on since pre-match. understand the difference,

Wouldn't a calculated risk be one which we could afford to lose? I don't see your reasoning with wanting them thrown in but not the other players who don't regularly start. Shouldn't we have just thrown them all in to 'test' them since they will be backups next season as well? Also, Ake and Zouma ARE our backup CBs today, which tells me they are capable. Also the fact that both have over 50 appearances in English football says a little something. 

13 hours ago, didierforever said:

Playing a final against arsenal/city is simply not the same as playing a QF at home against a massively depleted  united side.

"Rest our best team". Do you even remember the team I put forward? It had Alonso, Azpi, Matic/Kante, Costa, Willian, Hazard. 6 out of 10 that actually started. Starting a back 3 of Zouma-JT-Ake against a Zlatan sans united is hardly "resting our best team". So seriously stop going OTT.

That would have been a disaster. Zouma and Terry couldn't be less suited to this system if they tried.

4 hours ago, TheChelseaBlues said:

Wouldn't a calculated risk be one which we could afford to lose? I don't see your reasoning with wanting them thrown in but not the other players who don't regularly start. Shouldn't we have just thrown them all in to 'test' them since they will be backups next season as well? Also, Ake and Zouma ARE our backup CBs today, which tells me they are capable. Also the fact that both have over 50 appearances in English football says a little something. 

A calculated risk would be a risk which one would take knowing that the other team lacked its top 3 attackers. I dont think there is any match (except for dead rubbers) that any team "can afford to lose". Musonda/kenedy/aina are all back ups currently. Wanna have a bet that none of them is here next season. 

Dont understand the last statement. If you are so confident and the fact that they have had a combined of 50 appearances in english, then why cant we start them in a domestic game? Again, this is just my opinion and what I would have liked to see. You and majority think differently, fair enough.

57 minutes ago, didierforever said:

A calculated risk would be a risk which one would take knowing that the other team lacked its top 3 attackers. I dont think there is any match (except for dead rubbers) that any team "can afford to lose". Musonda/kenedy/aina are all back ups currently. Wanna have a bet that none of them is here next season. 

Dont understand the last statement. If you are so confident and the fact that they have had a combined of 50 appearances in english, then why cant we start them in a domestic game? Again, this is just my opinion and what I would have liked to see. You and majority think differently, fair enough.

Surely we can afford to lose against Stoke no? And I would love to take that bet, at least one of Kenedy, Musonda and Aina will be at Chelsea next season.  

On 14/03/2017 at 07:47, benjsross said:

Yes I do remember every fa cup win. I remember where I was for each of them, attending three (and one where we lost). 

I also remember our double winning side very well. Our only double winning side.

Maybe the fa cup doesn't mean anything to you, that's fine. To 90% of Chelsea fans though it does mean something. 

And we've won the league already, there's no chance of us losing it. If we played a weakened side in the fa cup until it was guaranteed mathematically then in my mind this league win would have a bit of an asterix over it (it already does a bit because we didn't have to play European football). 

But additionally ask Leicester and Liverpool how playing a weakened side in the fa cup panned out for them with league results. Ask Sunderland how a 2 week break did for their league form. Players need to play and to win. 

I cant believe I am having this conversation. 

In the last 20 yes, we've won it all (as the song goes), but for me personally, nothing will ever beat the fa cup win of 1997, from queing up for 8 hours at the bridge, to get a ticket, to 45 seconds into the game, and for the hour of celebrations after the game. 

3 minutes ago, chi blue said:

In the last 20 yes, we've won it all (as the song goes), but for me personally, nothing will ever beat the fa cup win of 1997, from queing up for 8 hours at the bridge, to get a ticket, to 45 seconds into the game, and for the hour of celebrations after the game. 

i will never forget that 45 seconds in because i sprained my ankle charging around the house like a loon !!

19 minutes ago, chi blue said:

nothing will ever beat the fa cup win of 1997, from queing up for 8 hours at the bridge, to get a ticket, to 45 seconds into the game, and for the hour of celebrations after the game. 

The first and only time I snorted vodka off the bottom of a wine glass ... :-)

We were at a sales convention in Jersey, and had been cruising round the island in the rain in Mini Mokes in the morning. Watched the game in the hotel and went nuts when RDM hit that screamer. Good times indeed !