13 minutes ago, Davey Baby said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the rule is maximum 17 foreigners and maximum 8 HGs, and as many U21s as you want. Some of those in brackets are U21s,

You can have more than 8 Homegrown.

I think the rule is just that you can only have a maximum of 17 players born before the 1 January 1996 that are not designated as Homegrown players.

Delayed edit: Oh and I suppose a maximum of 25 players born before the 1 January 1996. 

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by PedroMendez

1 minute ago, PedroMendez said:

You can have more than 8 Homegrown.

I think the rule is just that you can only have a maximum of 17 players born before the 1 January 1996 that are not designated as Homegrown players.
 

 

Thanks.

 

Right now I think we have 13 foreigners (assuming Matic and Costa go) and 3 HGs (I'm not including the likes of Baker who have never played for us).

 

That means we can add 9 more players this summer if we want to, with up to 4 of them being foreigners.

 

If Morata comes in it will be 3.

1 minute ago, Davey Baby said:

 

Thanks.

 

Right now I think we have 13 foreigners (assuming Matic and Costa go) and 3 HGs (I'm not including the likes of Baker who have never played for us).

 

That means we can add 9 more players this summer if we want to, with up to 4 of them being foreigners.

 

If Morata comes in it will be 3.

Agreed I wonder how City are going to cope with this rule especially when their squad just seems to keep growing.

It gets even harder with CL registration where to count as Under21 you have to have spent a certain amount of time at the club and you also have to have 4 spots designated for club trained Players. 

2 hours ago, CarefreeSimmo_ said:

He was a liability for the second half of the season. Exploited every week, in fact I'd go as far as to say, off the top of my head, 75% of the goals we conceded after that Tottenham embarrassment came from Moses side. Teams acknowledged he was a below average winger and a poor defender.

Dont get me wrong he played the best football of his career last season but all in all that's not good enough for Chelsea. 

Alonso was leaps and bounds ahead of Moses. Ridiculous comment to say the left was the weaker side.

Moses was defiantly losing form coming to the business end of the season. I find Moses very hit and miss going forward were as Alonso is very good and his crosses are excellent.

Moses did have a great season in all but at the same time he could easily be upgraded.

I take it FFP has gone out the window with the way City are buying players. Pep says he wants another 4 players 

4 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

I take it FFP has gone out the window with the way City are buying players. Pep says he wants another 4 players 

FFP has been dead for a while now 

5 minutes ago, Chelsbear said:

FFP has been dead for a while now 

I thought as much, it made UEFA look busy for a few years.

Was very impressing at Porto, then lost himself at Real Madrid. Firstly when I saw Moses, I never could think of playing him RWB position that good, he does that job well and was one of our best players this season. I don't really believe Danilo is an improvement on Moses, Danilo's crossing is much better, but Moses has a better dribbling, speed, technique. It would be perfect to have Danilo as a backup for Moses, but to become a starter won't improve us. 

Anyways, it seems like he's about to sign for City when they just signed Walker, won't understand that decision, but let's see how it all goes.

34 minutes ago, IliyaKrostin said:

Was very impressing at Porto, then lost himself at Real Madrid. Firstly when I saw Moses, I never could think of playing him RWB position that good, he does that job well and was one of our best players this season. I don't really believe Danilo is an improvement on Moses, Danilo's crossing is much better, but Moses has a better dribbling, speed, technique. It would be perfect to have Danilo as a backup for Moses, but to become a starter won't improve us. 

Anyways, it seems like he's about to sign for City when they just signed Walker, won't understand that decision, but let's see how it all goes.

Moses is just slightly faster then Danilo, he likes to dribble more, but also get dispossesed twice as many times. In comparison Danilo wins almost twice as many tackles, interceptions and aerial duels per game. He is also a better passer and crosser compared to Moses. 

1 hour ago, Ernie_blue said:

I take it FFP has gone out the window with the way City are buying players. Pep says he wants another 4 players 

UEFA smh. Should just hire an investigative auditor to look into Man City's sources of income. No way can a club spend 200m consecutively for 3 seasons and have their books balanced. It's fishy

1 hour ago, comtrend said:

Moses is just slightly faster then Danilo, he likes to dribble more, but also get dispossesed twice as many times. In comparison Danilo wins almost twice as many tackles, interceptions and aerial duels per game. He is also a better passer and crosser compared to Moses. 

That's the funny thing about Danilo. Fans that watch him say he's sh*t but his stats say otherwise. I'm inclined to believe that he's not the best but is a very serviceable competition for Moses.

Edited July 19, 20178 yr by Deino

6 hours ago, Davey Baby said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the rule is maximum 17 foreigners and maximum 8 HGs, and as many U21s as you want. Some of those in brackets are U21s,

Yup.

for us the main point is having the appropriate number of non HG players and filling the 8 HG spots with youth players as we simply don't have that many HG players

Danilo isn`t good enough for a starter, forget about improvement. Moses is 2x better. Don`t look at stats, cause they are not telling you the reality. And if you look at Alonso statistics in Italy, it was crazy high about everything, the moment he came to England all of his stats dropped a lot.
That`s what happen in England. It`s totally different then other leagues.

Even Real Madrid fans said he is a junk and are happy they will get so much money for him.

comtrend, Moses wasn`t exposed at all, but Danilo does. He forget to go back to defend, and he make a lot of stupids errors.

 

Happy for City to butt in on him...I'd much prefer either Oxlaide Chamberlain for his versatility or Jeremy Toljan as he can also play LWB if needed...

7 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

Moses was defiantly losing form coming to the business end of the season. I find Moses very hit and miss going forward were as Alonso is very good and his crosses are excellent.

Moses did have a great season in all but at the same time he could easily be upgraded.

There's no doubt his toe injury didn't help and probably he was getting tired at the end as this was his first full season for a long time and as a RWB he was doing a lot of trundling up and down the wing...he should have a better second season there and if another player comes in for his position, then the competition should spur him on further...and he gets a day off on the first day of the season...

51 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

Happy for City to butt in on him...I'd much prefer either Oxlaide Chamberlain for his versatility or Jeremy Toljan as he can also play LWB if needed...

I think the club is about done with transfers now. 

2 hours ago, brakeit said:

Danilo isn`t good enough for a starter, forget about improvement. Moses is 2x better. Don`t look at stats, cause they are not telling you the reality. And if you look at Alonso statistics in Italy, it was crazy high about everything, the moment he came to England all of his stats dropped a lot.
That`s what happen in England. It`s totally different then other leagues.

Even Real Madrid fans said he is a junk and are happy they will get so much money for him.

comtrend, Moses wasn`t exposed at all, but Danilo does. He forget to go back to defend, and he make a lot of stupids errors.

 

We might disagree on a lot of things but I agree with you on this one except the starter and improvement part

Edited July 20, 20178 yr by Deino

43 minutes ago, Deino said:

I think the club is about done with transfers now.

Will be a massive cause of concern if this is true. We STILL need atleast one of WB.

Edited July 20, 20178 yr by didierforever

Be strange for him to join City considering they've just paid a King's ransom for Walker unless Pep is planning on playing somewhere other than right back/wing back. 

Maybe they're going to play him on the left in stead... Who knows with Pep. 

15 hours ago, big blue said:

id take cancelo for the £20m he has been linked with spurs. Decent back up, could develop into a quality player.

Back up? He'll be a starter. 

Funny that the guy supposed to be trash but 2 top managers want him?

Also, I doubt we're done for transfers as our squad is no deeper then when the season ended.

1 hour ago, Remodez said:

Back up? He'll be a starter. 

I trust it opinion on all things portuguese. I've not seen a great deal of him. If he is good enough to walk into the team ahead of moses, we should be all over it. 

4 hours ago, didierforever said:

Will be a massive cause of concern if this is true. We STILL need atleast one of WB.

Yeah, I agree but it's all gone a bit quiet now

17 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

I take it FFP has gone out the window with the way City are buying players. Pep says he wants another 4 players 

City fan here, he did say another 3-4, but currently we have 1 fullback (Walker) not counting Kolarov who was our 4th choice CB for last season rather than a LB (and is rumoured to be leaving also!) - as we've released 3, hence the Mendy/Danilo links. We have 2 natural wingers (Sane + Sterling) as we've sold/released Nolito/Navas & look like selling Iheanacho (hence the Sanchez links). And we'll only have 3 CB's if Kolarov leaves, and whilst no specific names have been mentioned there are talks of us hunting a CB also. The 4 will likely be Mendy (if Monaco eventually give in), Danilo (seemingly), a CB & some versatile forward (don't see Arsenal letting us have Sanchez for any amount of money). 

 

So whilst we are spending a lot & seemingly going for a lot of players I don't believe they're silly purchases, just a big transition couple of seasons last one & this one!

 

In terms of Danilo on paper it seems a weird one for us, having just spent £45m on Walker, but I expect he'll be covering for 3 positions rather than our benched RB; he can play LB & has on occasion played in midfield - he could well be our replacement for Sagna + Clichy + Fernando combined. So I expect he'll be our backup fullback for either side, and last resort as defensive midfielder. Will free up some wages, some squad places, and save us having to splash out another £30m on a second left-back after Mendy (or whomever we end up getting).

Edited July 20, 20178 yr by Stable

18 minutes ago, Stable said:

City fan here, he did say another 3-4, but currently we have 1 fullback (Walker) not counting Kolarov who was our 4th choice CB for last season rather than a LB (and is rumoured to be leaving also!) - as we've released 3, hence the Mendy/Danilo links. We have 2 natural wingers (Sane + Sterling) as we've sold/released Nolito/Navas & look like selling Iheanacho (hence the Sanchez links). And we'll only have 3 CB's if Kolarov leaves, and whilst no specific names have been mentioned there are talks of us hunting a CB also. The 4 will likely be Mendy (if Monaco eventually give in), Danilo (seemingly), a CB & some versatile forward (don't see Arsenal letting us have Sanchez for any amount of money). 

 

So whilst we are spending a lot & seemingly going for a lot of players I don't believe they're silly purchases, just a big transition couple of seasons last one & this one!

 

In terms of Danilo on paper it seems a weird one for us, having just spent £45m on Walker, but I expect he'll be covering for 3 positions rather than our benched RB; he can play LB & has on occasion played in midfield - he could well be our replacement for Sagna + Clichy + Fernando combined. So I expect he'll be our backup fullback for either side, and last resort as defensive midfielder. Will free up some wages, some squad places, and save us having to splash out another £30m on a second left-back after Mendy (or whomever we end up getting).

Always happy to hear from other team's fans...looks like it'll be a big year in the transfer market for City...you have a great squad good forward but it's at the back that you're struggling...I can see you needing quite a few defensive players especially if Kompany can't keep fit...and Stones seems to have stagnated development wise...think he would have learnt so much from Conte...but that's water under the bridge...good luck to you next season mate...

1 hour ago, Stable said:

City fan here, he did say another 3-4, but currently we have 1 fullback (Walker) not counting Kolarov who was our 4th choice CB for last season rather than a LB (and is rumoured to be leaving also!) - as we've released 3, hence the Mendy/Danilo links. We have 2 natural wingers (Sane + Sterling) as we've sold/released Nolito/Navas & look like selling Iheanacho (hence the Sanchez links). And we'll only have 3 CB's if Kolarov leaves, and whilst no specific names have been mentioned there are talks of us hunting a CB also. The 4 will likely be Mendy (if Monaco eventually give in), Danilo (seemingly), a CB & some versatile forward (don't see Arsenal letting us have Sanchez for any amount of money). 

 

So whilst we are spending a lot & seemingly going for a lot of players I don't believe they're silly purchases, just a big transition couple of seasons last one & this one!

 

In terms of Danilo on paper it seems a weird one for us, having just spent £45m on Walker, but I expect he'll be covering for 3 positions rather than our benched RB; he can play LB & has on occasion played in midfield - he could well be our replacement for Sagna + Clichy + Fernando combined. So I expect he'll be our backup fullback for either side, and last resort as defensive midfielder. Will free up some wages, some squad places, and save us having to splash out another £30m on a second left-back after Mendy (or whomever we end up getting).

I feel that is a very Blue-tinted perspective.

City have 2 very good Strikers in jesus and aguero (Chelsea have morata and michy).

City have Jesus, Sane AND Bernardo Silva as wingers as well as KDB and Silva as Attacking Midfielders. Selling/keeping Iheanacho barely affects city at all. Compare that to our squad and we have Hazard, Pedro and willian for wings/inside forwards along with Musonda. Buying sanchez despite boasting these names is simply over-kill in my opinion.

For CM positions, City has Fernandinho, Ilkay, Yaya, Fernando and Delph. Compare it to our situation: Kante, Cesc, Bakayoko, Baker and Pasalic.

For Defence: I agree that City still needs a couple of full backs (one LB if danilo is confirmed) and maybe a CB. But still cant see how and where you need 4 signings. 

Hopefully this just confirms that Pep is not anything special. Just a manager who got very lucky with the best football player the world has ever seen coupled with one of the best ever midfield combo of Xavi-busquets-iniesta. As soon as the going got tough (xavi and puyol declining), he walked away and joined a team that can put their B team and still win the league comfortably. And now, in his first true test, he is simply doing what most TOP managers do. BUY great players to try and win trophies.