2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Club played the 'player wants too much money' card with Mount, doing the same with Gallagher now too to get fans on side. JT and the likes spoke about this when it happened with Mount.

What a way to treat academy lads, ay.

luckily we never gave Mount all the money he wanted..🙂 

So they don't want to pay high wages and yet Cucurella is reportedly on £165k pw.

The right hand doesn't appear to know what the left hand is doing.

2 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Club played the 'player wants too much money' card with Mount, doing the same with Gallagher now too to get fans on side. JT and the likes spoke about this when it happened with Mount.

What a way to treat academy lads, ay.

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the instruction from above should he not get sold this window is to stop playing him, force him to accept an offer in summer from another club. Would explain Casadei etc coming back...


I hope I'm wrong, but it seems clear as day the club are running the same playbook they did with Mount.

24 minutes ago, guddy69 said:

luckily we never gave Mount all the money he wanted..🙂 

Mount was never going to work in a team that has Bruno as the main man in his role.

Dirty tactics by the club to publicly paint such a picture of academy players though. Club offered Mount a deal he agreed to and then went back on it and low balled. No problem with the sale of Mount, my issue is the way it was handled by the club.

Edited January 29, 20242 yr by RIP Mourinho

3 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Mount was never going to work in a team that has Bruno as the main man in his role.

Dirty tactics by the club to publicly paint such a picture of academy players though. Club offered Mount a deal he agreed to and then went back on it and low balled. No problem with the sale of Mount, my issue is the way it was handled by the club.

I don't think Bruno is the problem. I watched Mount a couple times for United and it was mental. He was basically the last midfield defending transition. 

 

I think once ETH is inevitably relieved of his duties Mount will do well at United.

 

13 minutes ago, cfr95 said:

I think once ETH is inevitably relieved of his duties Mount will do well at United.

 

Where would he play? The Utd move wasn’t well thought out, Liverpool & Spurs made more sense.

1 hour ago, cfr95 said:

I think once ETH is inevitably relieved of his duties Mount will do well at United.

 

I don't see how. His best position is right where Bruno Fernandes plays and he's always going to be 2nd fiddle to Bruno. 

Let's give the Mount thing a few seasons before we start bashing the club. By all accounts he was holding out to receive as much as Reece James when his form was stagnant for 18 months. His form still hasn't gotten any better, in fact I'd go as far as saying its been worse since he's moved to United. Since Stewart and Winstanley have come to the club, they had a focus on reducing the wage bill and correcting Boehly/Tuchel's errors with regards to average players getting paid enormous contracts. They are still probably going to spend the entire summer getting rid of the likes of Cucurella and possibly even Fofana. So far selling Mount and not caving to what Boehly initially offered him was a smart play. 

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with £150kpw if that is the maximum Gallagher is demanding. He would probably even accept a little less. It's right about where or whereabouts where Enzo/Caicedo are earning. 

3 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Let's give the Mount thing a few seasons before we start bashing the club. By all accounts he was holding out to receive as much as Reece James when his form was stagnant for 18 months. His form still hasn't gotten any better, in fact I'd go as far as saying its been worse since he's moved to United. Since Stewart and Winstanley have come to the club, they had a focus on reducing the wage bill and correcting Boehly/Tuchel's errors with regards to average players getting paid enormous contracts. They are still probably going to spend the entire summer getting rid of the likes of Cucurella and possibly even Fofana. So far selling Mount and not caving to what Boehly initially offered him was a smart play. 

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with £150kpw if that is the maximum Gallagher is demanding. He would probably even accept a little less. It's right about where or whereabouts where Enzo/Caicedo are earning. 

150k for a squad player? I don't know about that. 

I think the club should stick to their guns on this one. Enzo and Caicedo were signed as key players so it makes sense. They might not be performing up to standard, but that's part of the plan, I don't view Gallagher as a key player and I hope the club doesn't either. 

1 minute ago, Victor90 said:

150k for a squad player? I don't know about that. 

I think the club should stick to their guns on this one. Enzo and Caicedo were signed as key players so it makes sense. They might not be performing up to standard, but that's part of the plan, I don't view Gallagher as a key player and I hope the club doesn't either. 

If we are looking at the club wage bill, £110-150kpw is about right. Like I said £150kpw max and i'd only give it to Gallagher given his reliability. 

9 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

If we are looking at the club wage bill, £110-150kpw is about right. Like I said £150kpw max and i'd only give it to Gallagher given his reliability. 

If they can get rid of Sarr this window, that pays for extra for Gallagher with some left over. Isn't Sarr 120kpw or some such ridiculous amount

1 hour ago, Victor90 said:

I think the club should stick to their guns on this one.

I mean the first point we need to consider is that the £150k we've seen reported this weekend has almost certainly been briefed by the club. We've no idea if there's any truth to that figure.

Secondly, and I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall on this one, but how anyone can think we shouldn't be do everything we can to keep Gallagher at Chelsea baffles me. The manager clearly rates him, ex-players rate him, he clearly loves the club, decisions like this being made because it makes the accounts team happy is just farcical.

3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Mount was never going to work in a team that has Bruno as the main man in his role.

Dirty tactics by the club to publicly paint such a picture of academy players though. Club offered Mount a deal he agreed to and then went back on it and low balled. No problem with the sale of Mount, my issue is the way it was handled by the club.

Impossible to even know the full story, but the fact he went to united just makes me think he went for the club that would offer the most money. I wasn't sad to see him go by the end anyway, he is one of a collection of players who seem to go off the boil once they hit their peak. 

Gallagher id like to keep, but I don't run our finances. I like that he can play every week, but I don't like that he's never won a game for us. So if we can get 60/70m for him I'd be happy. 

I'm a staunch supporter of Connor and whilst I do think he should be extended and play with us as I think he is a good fit for the club and is on an upward trajectory, I'm all for hemming the wage bill. 

Some of the money these players are on is truly mind boggling. Yes they are pro athletes, with short careers and will put their bodies on the line but I'm very supportive of the club being "fiscally responsible" when it comes to wages. I don't mind a player getting a performance bonus of £500k, £1m per week, per month, per season as the case may be if their performance is top notch but not signing contracts that are outside the financial plans for the long term health of the club.

17 hours ago, ducavis said:

Where would he play? The Utd move wasn’t well thought out, Liverpool & Spurs made more sense.

Right wing 

17 hours ago, cfr95 said:

I think once ETH is inevitably relieved of his duties Mount will do well at United.

 

I can't believe he still has united job. I thought he was a goner months ago. 

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

Right wing 

No chance of that happening. With everyone fit it will be Rashford & Granacho on the wings, in the summer they will be buying a winger to replace Sancho. Can’t see it, like someone said earlier he went for the money.

2 hours ago, ducavis said:

No chance of that happening. With everyone fit it will be Rashford & Granacho on the wings, in the summer they will be buying a winger to replace Sancho. Can’t see it, like someone said earlier he went for the money.

Garnacho on the right wing make no sense imo. 

Mount is more defensively sound and more secure in possesion. With Mount you can let rashford, bruno and holjund to their thing and you will have good balance. 

 

If Lavia hadn't turned out to be such a crock, then perhaps the picture would look a little different with Conor. But as it stands, it would be lunacy to let him leave in the current window. Both Lavia and Ugochukwu are out long term, Carney has only just returned from long term injury and will be used sparingly, and Enzo's playing time has to be carefully managed over injury concerns. Perhaps if some of these ongoing issues are resolved by the summer, the question can be revisited then. But the way things are going with our injuries, that seems unlikely. If the club is looking to raise some funds, they might want to consider offloading or loaning out some of the signings that haven't worked out.

1 minute ago, forbzy said:

If Lavia hadn't turned out to be such a crock, then perhaps the picture would look a little different with Conor. 

Carney too. 

Interesting to think how the season would've panned out had Nkunku, Lavia, and Carney not suffer such injuries. 

If there is any serious interest in Gallagher going this window surley he is left out of the Liverpool game? Same with broja.

22 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Garnacho on the right wing make no sense imo. 

Mount is more defensively sound and more secure in possesion. With Mount you can let rashford, bruno and holjund to their thing and you will have good balance. 

 

As a winger? At £250k/w basic? He has only scored 1 goal since Oct 2022, that is 1 goal in 15mths. He also has 1 assist in that same period.
Personally feel everyone, including Mount go carried away by that 1 very good season. 

1 hour ago, ducavis said:

As a winger? At £250k/w basic? He has only scored 1 goal since Oct 2022, that is 1 goal in 15mths. He also has 1 assist in that same period.
Personally feel everyone, including Mount go carried away by that 1 very good season. 

If you want to play 4231 you want at least one of your attacker to play Willian/b silva/Grealish role to have more balance. 

You don't want 4 attackers all going for the kill. United already has holjund, bruno and rashford all very direct. You need the 4th guy to be more conservative and defensively sound. 

A good example on how to not build a team. 

Ronaldo (score)

Rashford(score) - Bruno (score) - Greenwood (score) 

Disaster

Edited January 31, 20242 yr by Bob stark

I love Conor’s passion but am I the only one who noticed he always seems to make an error when he’s in front of goal. It’s always a slip, a over hit pass, under hit pass or a pass out of touch.