Let's face it, even if Conor was the best player ever, the owners want to sell him regardless.

Academy player = pure profit 

No surprise, loose a game and the middle age melts get upset and start picking on the better player across the season in our squad for kicking. Depressing reading some of the comments here. 

Lets try this, not going to be popular, but for 100 million, Enzo is mugging us off that he's a midfielder because he actually doesn't bring or carry any type of threat anywhere across the pitch. But sure, lets pick on the Cobham grad while waiting for your Male Hormone replacement therapy. 

5 hours ago, olderschoolcfc said:

No surprise, loose a game and the middle age melts get upset and start picking on the better player across the season in our squad for kicking. Depressing reading some of the comments here. 

Lets try this, not going to be popular, but for 100 million, Enzo is mugging us off that he's a midfielder because he actually doesn't bring or carry any type of threat anywhere across the pitch. But sure, lets pick on the Cobham grad while waiting for your Male Hormone replacement therapy. 

What are you classing as "threat"? Goals and assists stat no doubt.

1 hour ago, Argo said:

What are you classing as "threat"? Goals and assists stat no doubt.

If it is goals then it is 4-0 to Enzo !

5 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

If it is goals then it is 4-0 to Enzo !

That's what I find the most ironic.

Goals and assists being used against Enzo (and he'd have plenty of the latter if the attacking players did their job better) but our most attacking CM has 0 goals coming into January but is apparently our best player.

1 minute ago, Argo said:

That's what I find the most ironic.

Goals and assists being used against Enzo (and he'd have plenty of the latter if the attacking players did their job better) but our most attacking CM has 0 goals coming into January but is apparently our best player.

Sssshhhhh - there is an agenda to follow ! And a new banner to wave tomorrow apparently LOL

It's like the inconvenient truth that Colwill has a better average performance rating playing left back for us this season than he had playing centre back for De Zerbi last season, in a team that was playing better ! That one of course does not fit well with the Poch-bashing "playing people out of position" argument, but hey ho 🙂 

1 hour ago, Argo said:

That's what I find the most ironic.

Goals and assists being used against Enzo (and he'd have plenty of the latter if the attacking players did their job better) but our most attacking CM has 0 goals coming into January but is apparently our best player.

 

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Sssshhhhh - there is an agenda to follow ! And a new banner to wave tomorrow apparently LOL

It's like the inconvenient truth that Colwill has a better average performance rating playing left back for us this season than he had playing centre back for De Zerbi last season, in a team that was playing better ! That one of course does not fit well with the Poch-bashing "playing people out of position" argument, but hey ho 🙂 

Why do we need to put down one player to make another look better? 

All 3 of our midfielders have their good and bad points, none of them, imo, are being used correctly on a tactical basis, and they are all good players now and 2 of them have the potential to be great players while Conor every bit deserves his place in the squad.

If Poch played an actual midfield 3, with Enzo in the Jorginho role, with his fantastic vision and passing, Gallagher deployed as a destroyer in a similar role to Kante (I am not saying he is anywhere near prime Kante) and Caicedo as our Kovacic the midfield, and all 3, would be doing a lot better imo.

I thought he was really poor again today. He would be a nightmare to play with as a CM partner, he just doesn't play with any positional discipline. More of the usual running all over the place, getting in the way of players, taking up other players positions, charging out of deep areas trying to win a ball that will never be one and leaving a massive gap in midfield. A big part of the reason why look so disorganised is because of Gallagher, he is pulling the entire team out of shape. 

The commentators are blind and have no understanding of the game if they think running all over the place makes you "elite" 

There are so many times where I am screaming in my head for him to hold his position or get out of the way of his teammates.

Edited January 13, 20242 yr by Scott Harris

He offers absolutely nothing in games like this. 

If there was ever the perfect example of a headless chicken it's him. The difference in class between him in Palmer in the attack is ginormous. From physical, technical, and mental. For the first time Poch went bananas with him today for not acknowledging the attack and passing backwards but he's been doing this all season. 

If we've got the likes of Noni, Sterling, Mudryk, and Palmer available there's just no reason Conor should be starting in games like this when we need to break teams down. 

It has all been said above.  With Conor taking such critical roles in the team we will always be held back.  I have the utmost respect for his effort and workrate, but Chelsea really need to move on.  He is not good enough on the ball.

I don't like being too critical of him because I do like what he does offer and he's a perfect 12th/13th player in the squad, but his untouchable status and best player shouts need to stop.

Wonder what Poch does with Carney back. 

18 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Wonder what Poch does with Carney back. 

Tell him to be Nkunku?

Gallagher as a 10 VS deep blocks is one of the most painful watches in my life. 

Edited January 14, 20242 yr by jack_super_class

Love him , live his passion and drive but he’s not a starting 11 player in any time that wants to win big trophies.

He’s a fantastic squad player!!

Dont people get tired of posting the same things bashing a player? Is it any wonder our players lack confidence when they get the level of criticism as consistently as they do? It's no wonder he doesn't want to shoot... imagine the smell around here if he'd scored instead of hitting the post yesterday, folk would say it was a lucky effort. 

anyone reading this thread would think we've just lost four on the bounce and are in a relegation battle.

Connor Gallagher deserves so much better from this fan base than he's getting. It's really sad reading. 

Every manager who he has played for puts him in the starting 11.

The clubs who will be in for him are all above us in the league and he has 11 more England caps than any poster on here.

First name on the team sheet for me. this side needs his engine and tenacity. he's proven premiership experienced and will go up levels over the coming years. 

 

23 minutes ago, olderschoolcfc said:

Dont people get tired of posting the same things bashing a player? Is it any wonder our players lack confidence when they get the level of criticism as consistently as they do? It's no wonder he doesn't want to shoot... imagine the smell around here if he'd scored instead of hitting the post yesterday, folk would say it was a lucky effort. 

anyone reading this thread would think we've just lost four on the bounce and are in a relegation battle.

Connor Gallagher deserves so much better from this fan base than he's getting. It's really sad reading. 

Every manager who he has played for puts him in the starting 11.

The clubs who will be in for him are all above us in the league and he has 11 more England caps than any poster on here.

First name on the team sheet for me. this side needs his engine and tenacity. he's proven premiership experienced and will go up levels over the coming years. 

 

I agree with the sentiment.. I didn’t think he was any good last year and his performances this year completely turned my view around.. he has had 2/3 shots hit the post this year and had they gone in the narrative would be different.

I don’t know whether he is an indisciplined headless chicken or following instructions and leading the press.. 

I like to see him on the pitch since it looks like he is putting in 120%.. he does produce a few moments every match and stats are in his favour as a CM..

a lot of us are also ready to bet on Caicedo’s potential and Enzo’s potential.. but this guy is pretty much the same age. 
 

With experience he will improve 100%.. especially tactically and decision making .. also his timing into the box.. lamps was similar age when we bought him.. wonder how we would have treated him.

yesterday was not a great game for him but he seems an easy target for fans .. at times it feels some on here are more concerned about trying to be right than CFC

9 minutes ago, Jangz said:

I agree with the sentiment.. I didn’t think he was any good last year and his performances this year completely turned my view around.. he has had 2/3 shots hit the post this year and had they gone in the narrative would be different.

I don’t know whether he is an indisciplined headless chicken or following instructions and leading the press.. 

I like to see him on the pitch since it looks like he is putting in 120%.. he does produce a few moments every match and stats are in his favour as a CM..

a lot of us are also ready to bet on Caicedo’s potential and Enzo’s potential.. but this guy is pretty much the same age. 
 

With experience he will improve 100%.. especially tactically and decision making .. also his timing into the box.. lamps was similar age when we bought him.. wonder how we would have treated him.

yesterday was not a great game for him but he seems an easy target for fans .. at times it feels some on here are more concerned about trying to be right than CFC

There were fans who gave Lampard stick and he did what CG is doing and knuckling down. Not going to compare CG and lamps, but both had the same work ethic and worked at improving their game, different types of players in different times.  If he is headless chicken, he wins a hell of a lot in the opponents half. He isn't fashionable, doesnt court headlines, gets on with playing. So much to like and get behind as a player and he's one of our own. Same criticism of Mount who helped win us the Champions league, it's just been switched onto CG. Great player and Im properly happy he's having an outstanding season for us. The goals and assists will come when everyone is on the same wavelengths. Just need time and more support from fans on forums and in the ground. 

 

If he can add goals to his game (like his time at Palace), that would be be his next step up.

On 12/01/2024 at 23:09, Argo said:

That's what I find the most ironic.

Goals and assists being used against Enzo (and he'd have plenty of the latter if the attacking players did their job better) but our most attacking CM has 0 goals coming into January but is apparently our best player.

And our most creative CM has zero assists coming into January. 

27 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

And our most creative CM has zero assists coming into January. 

I'm not using it against him perse I'm using the logic bring used.

Furthermore unless you do it a stupid KDB/Cesc rate assists are a subjective measure anyway, for example without checking could you tell me who "assisted" Hazard's wonder goals at Anfield?

1 hour ago, Argo said:

I'm not using it against him perse I'm using the logic bring used.

Furthermore unless you do it a stupid KDB/Cesc rate assists are a subjective measure anyway, for example without checking could you tell me who "assisted" Hazard's wonder goals at Anfield?

No one was using Enzo's goals and assists against him though, you brought that metric in the discourse yourself? Its your own logic. 

32 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

No one was using Enzo's goals and assists against him though, you brought that metric in the discourse yourself? Its your own logic. 

Plenty of people on the forum have. 

18 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

Plenty of people on the forum have. 

Not relevant to the post that was being replied to though. 

In a very big picture Gallagher is not the most naturally gifted footballer nor he might not be our beacon of midfield in 5 years. I can see him being a very useful player for a Premier League winning side or Champions League winning side. Best sides always have heart/backbone players who show with their fight, commitment and leadership. Gallagher is/can be this player for sure. 

Sell him: this signal would be massive for fans and other players to perform well to be sold to somewhere else. Small club mentality. And something really rotten and against of laws of team/club mentality. 

Keep him: fans and Conor would love this. Shows he is valued and seen as the integral part of the team he is right now.

In a bigger picture he might not be the main man he is right now and if we at some point buy a midfielder (or promote) that will transform our play, Conor will be moved to a bit part player with potentially long and lucrative deal. 

Enzo and Caicedo are players we will push to a bigger role because of their massive pricetags. 

We have also Andrey Santos and Cesare Casadei bought in for big money. Both those lads are more highly rated than Conor and they carry massive price tags. 

Anyway I can see why this is tricky for Chelsea.