10 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

And yet another disappointing display by CHO...should have joined Billy and sent to the U23 squad

but which wingback covered themselves in glory  in the last 2 games?

He is not a wingback.. i dont understand why the insistence on playing him there. If anything Ziyech/Bats/Havertz/Alonso etc have been similar if not worse.

42 minutes ago, Valpo said:

He did save one, can't remember who it was against where the penalty taker shot the ball right at him.  But that was not a shootout.

Honestly I think we should use Kepa for the shootouts but Tuchel dumped him from that spot after losing the EFL cup on pens.

I am pretty surprised that we could not beat a mid-tier MLS team.  Even though they are mid-season and we are in pre-season mode.  Every single one of our players should be better.  Most of our players make in 2 weeks what the average MLS player makes in a year.

Aguero

 

But generally Bendy Mendy is trash at pens.

Chelsea are doing a lot of traveling.

Level at 1

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Prem-ear league.

Banks it!

He thought he was just going to walk it on the precipace

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5 hours ago, ducavis said:

Are fans really thinking we can win the PL? Still have us 10pts+ behind City. I think the problem is more structural & formation than personnel.

As for Ronaldo; we are more likely to drop out of the top 4 than compete with him in the team. There is a reason every top club is avoiding him like a virus.

Would be hugely surprised if we are only 10pts behind Citeh.

We look firmly like a top 6 side at best.

27 minutes ago, Jangz said:

but which wingback covered themselves in glory  in the last 2 games?

He is not a wingback.. i dont understand why the insistence on playing him there. If anything Ziyech/Bats/Havertz/Alonso etc have been similar if not worse.

If CHO cant play wingback, then better get rid of him. Because he has far too little end product to be one of our ATMs/Wingers.

When will it come to the point where Tuchel stops blaming the attackers and holds some accountability in the fact they all still look clueless after 18 months of management?

2 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

If CHO cant play wingback, then better get rid of him. Because he has far too little end product to be one of our ATMs/Wingers.

which one apart from mount has been producing?

3 minutes ago, Jangz said:

which one apart from mount has been producing?

That is the type of argument I hate.

Which one of our CMs have been producing? Perhaps we should have kept and played Drinkwater?

Which one of our CBs have been producing? Perhaps we should give Sarr another chance.

The fact that other players (Pulisic and Ziyech in that position), who have proven themselves in the past, are not producing, is NOT an excuse to keep playing a player who has zero history of producing at Adult level. At least Ziyech got some crosses in and Puli scored. CHO does nothing! No areal threat, no penetration, no taking on players, no finishing, no crossing. Just absolute dross.

For what it is worth, I would also say that Ziyech and Puli have also been poor for too long, but that doesnt mean 'Oh No, It's CHO' (TM) is good enough to play for us.

I have a feeling if TT carry’s on playing this sh*te brand of Pragmaball, there are actual footie fans on the board, which might lead to a ‘Hurry up’ for TT

Didnt read much into the highlights tbh, High levels of muppetry just like how utd are title contenders for winning a pre season kick about lol

34 minutes ago, Kantesmini said:

Didnt read much into the highlights tbh, High levels of muppetry just like how utd are title contenders for winning a pre season kick about lol

It's about momentum into the new season. I remember we had a terrible USA tour the season mourinho got fired after winning his 3 Rd league title for us...

There isn't a magical switch that you just turn on when the season starts

46 minutes ago, The Don Antonio said:

It's about momentum into the new season. I remember we had a terrible USA tour the season mourinho got fired after winning his 3 Rd league title for us...

There isn't a magical switch that you just turn on when the season starts

I hear your concerns and I remember that preseason did end up giving us big clues over the awful season ahead.

For this tour the first 2 games were definitely more for fitness and experimentation. I think we will have a better idea of how the team is shaping up when we play Arsenal at the weekend. Even though it is a pre-season friendly it is still Arsenal. So we will be looking to see more from both the players and the coaching staff. After that we have just friendly against Udinese before the season starts, and we have a tough run of games to kick off too.

1 hour ago, The Don Antonio said:

It's about momentum into the new season. I remember we had a terrible USA tour the season mourinho got fired after winning his 3 Rd league title for us...

There isn't a magical switch that you just turn on when the season starts

We were a mixed bag during Conte's preseason yet stormed to the title. 

The next season we had an okay preseason yet we fell apart during the season. 

Pre-season is for experimentation and building chemistry between new and current players. 

1 hour ago, The Don Antonio said:

It's about momentum into the new season. I remember we had a terrible USA tour the season mourinho got fired after winning his 3 Rd league title for us...

There isn't a magical switch that you just turn on when the season starts

Forbzy covered it, I know what youre saying but as far as we know right now our squad isnt even finalised 

Plus TT has played all sorts all over the shop, The crowd was huuge you cant ignore the commercial side of it either

Does anyone know what seat size that stadium was?!

Just my thoughts, I think we can read a bit more into it when they're back and heading into the season

Just now, Deino said:

We were a mixed bag during Conte's preseason yet stormed to the title. 

The next season we had an okay preseason yet we fell apart during the season. 

Pre-season is for experimentation and building chemistry between new and current players. 

Spot on.

8 minutes ago, Deino said:

We were a mixed bag during Conte's preseason yet stormed to the title. 

The next season we had an okay preseason yet we fell apart during the season. 

Pre-season is for experimentation and building chemistry between new and current players. 

The season we stormed to the title we started off horrendously though, after looking terrible in pre season we took that form into the proper season. It took a complete change of tactic to get us going, and unfortunately I dont see Tuchel doing that. Were stuck with this tedious, risk free formation and style.

Just now, dkw said:

The season we stormed to the title we started off horrendously though, after looking terrible in pre season we took that form into the proper season. It took a complete change of tactic to get us going, and unfortunately I dont see Tuchel doing that. Were stuck with this tedious, risk free formation and style.

And your predictions always come true? You must be a billionaire

24 minutes ago, Deino said:

And your predictions always come true? You must be a billionaire

Oh sorry, i mistook this for a forum where people post opinions.

18 minutes ago, dkw said:

Oh sorry, i mistook this for a forum where people post opinions.

Funny that because anyone elses opinion apart from yours, You always belittle and try to shut down even if youre wrong

47 minutes ago, dkw said:

The season we stormed to the title we started off horrendously though, after looking terrible in pre season we took that form into the proper season. It took a complete change of tactic to get us going, and unfortunately I dont see Tuchel doing that. Were stuck with this tedious, risk free formation and style.

This is the biggest issue for me....

I dont care about losing pre season. The issue is that there has been little evidence of TT making the changes we need to the style of play (speed and/or formation) that we need. It is the same old thing over and over.

16 minutes ago, dkw said:

Oh sorry, i mistook this for a forum where people post opinions.

Nobody said anything about not being able to post opinions. It's just incredibly knee-jerk to assume we lose the title before a ball is kicked. 

My point is, the season is long and now we have a world cup smacked in the middle of the season which has never happened. How can you even begin to be negative when City and Pool have a new No. 9 that has never even played in the PL? City's attack is an aging Mahrez, new boy Haaland and hoping for Foden to continue his hot streak, Pool lost Mane and has to bed in a new No. 9 too with an aging Salah that stopped scoring for a while last season. This season is still up for grabs

48 minutes ago, dkw said:

The season we stormed to the title we started off horrendously though, after looking terrible in pre season we took that form into the proper season. It took a complete change of tactic to get us going, and unfortunately I dont see Tuchel doing that. Were stuck with this tedious, risk free formation and style.

I remember that pre-season being a b it better than tha, but then we had 2 bad defeats early on in the league against Liverpool and Arsenal that led to Conte changing things.

Conte's second season the pre-season was not great beyond a comfortable win over Arsenal, but apart from a surprise loss against Burnley we had a pretty decent start that season. It was mid-season when things really fell apart, as they often seem to.

36 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

This is the biggest issue for me....

I dont care about losing pre season. The issue is that there has been little evidence of TT making the changes we need to the style of play (speed and/or formation) that we need. It is the same old thing over and over.

Results have never bothered me at all in pre season, they're pretty meaningless. Obviously you prefer to win the games, but generally no one in the team really gets bothered by them.

It's more the way we've played, the odd positional choices, the fact we look to be exactly the same as last season, with exactly the same failings that's worrying as you say.

40 minutes ago, Deino said:

Nobody said anything about not being able to post opinions. It's just incredibly knee-jerk to assume we lose the title before a ball is kicked. 

My point is, the season is long and now we have a world cup smacked in the middle of the season which has never happened. How can you even begin to be negative when City and Pool have a new No. 9 that has never even played in the PL? City's attack is an aging Mahrez, new boy Haaland and hoping for Foden to continue his hot streak, Pool lost Mane and has to bed in a new No. 9 too with an aging Salah that stopped scoring for a while last season. This season is still up for grabs

Then what the f**k was this supposed to mean

 

"And your predictions always come true? You must be a billionaire"

39 minutes ago, forbzy said:

I remember that pre-season being a b it better than tha, but then we had 2 bad defeats early on in the league against Liverpool and Arsenal that led to Conte changing things.

Conte's second season the pre-season was not great beyond a comfortable win over Arsenal, but apart from a surprise loss against Burnley we had a pretty decent start that season. It was mid-season when things really fell apart, as they often seem to.

Sorry you're right, it was his second season we were pretty poor. We best Arsenal but then lost a few and looked totally disinterested.