5 hours ago, timetowaste said:

It's more the chances he misses, some of his hold up play is good but his runs aren't up to par and he doesn't put away enough chances 

 

I reckon we'll be pleasantly surprised, he offers something different to our current crop 

Cavalier and brave players lose the ball, but they also can create something out of nothing TT won't put up with losing the ball, especially in the middle of the park. Gallagher will have to improve a in choosing the right pass. Palace played a lot deeper and could recover quicker defensively, our defensive line when going forward is nearer the half way line, lose the ball there and we have nothing behind us. 

2 minutes ago, ducavis said:

He is going to be like a new signing if given a fair chance.

 

Where would you stick the 5 wingers then? Not convinced his unconventional formation will get the best of out of Sterling especially with Kovacic and Jorginho behind him. Hell of a step down going from Bernardo Silva & De Bruyne to this.

Well based on last nights efforts I'd let CHO go or loan him out so you'd end up with 4 wingers.  All I saw was the same as last season, rarely took on anyone, rarely beat anyone, and the ball was played backwards more often than not. Friendly or not, it shows his mindset appears to be that he's afraid on taking on someone and losing the battle, whether that's because his confidence is shot from his last set of injuries I don't know, but to me he's not going to offer much this season so just as well cash in. 

6 hours ago, forbzy said:

I thought Ampadu looked good when he came on. certainly making a claim for inclusion in next season's squad.

Didn't see the game, but our 'English centre-back' (© EsPN+) seems to have impressed TT 

https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/club-news/tuchel-says-versatile-21-year-old-may-have-found-his-best-position-in-chelsea-system/

I've been saying for a long while that Ampadu is our most overlooked loanee. He's been tremendous for Wales and is a major talent.

I fell asleep after 20 minutes but the thing I learned most from this game is Guillermo Ochoa actually plays club football.

Club America already fully match fit, and we playing our first game 

not really that much you can read into this game 

didn't see the game

i would like to see some compilations of Ampadu, Kenedy & Gallagher 

Edited July 17, 20224 yr by azpi28

4 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I think people read too much into friendlies. Liverpool lost 4-0 to United the other day, do you really think they are worried?

But United are gonna win the league… well that’s what Utd fans think after that result.

Edited July 17, 20224 yr by DarkMata

1st half was everything wrong with the tactics condensed in 45min. Backpassing galore and no linkup play between anyone. 

2nd half was 50% of things you want to see(minus the own goal) from the team. 

Gallagher is wasted in the pivot. His best football is when he plays like Steven Gerard.

CHO is anonymous even against Club America. Maybe not sharp yet but I wanted to see more take ons even if they fail. This is preseason, mistakes don't matter but not trying to be aggressive is the worst thing you can do.

Jorginho showed why we still need him. I may dislike it but he's our only midfield controller. 

Onwards and upwards! 

1 hour ago, DarkMata said:

But United are gonna win the league… well that’s what Utd fans think after that result.

It's incredible (and naive to the extreme) how quickly they've forgiven their players for last season and think they'll come good under Ten Hag.

Their PR team are better than Arsenal's.

My favourite part of the game was when right before one of Club America's corner kicks the announcer at the stadium said "Tonight's corner kicks are brought to you by Universal Orlando". 

On the contrary, thought I saw enough yesterday to suggest Gallagher could learn the Kante role. 

 

 

 

Edited July 17, 20224 yr by azpi28

10 hours ago, Amputechture said:

What a goal by our best player

To be fair, although he took it well and got it in eventually, I thought Timo should have scored the first time of asking.

7 hours ago, dkw said:

I'm not going to enjoy another season of tedious, boring passing for the sake of it, hoping James or Mount can score, then clinging on hoping the opposition don't score from the chances they create.

With steerling (hopefully as winger) we probably will see more one on one action so it should be less boring. 

But in general, I don't expect much changes. 

 

 

 

don't sell Alonso

 

1st half

https://sbthe.com/b2po3oue6tj6.html

2nd half

https://sbthe.com/73whw1aomw24.html

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

To be fair, although he took it well and got it in eventually, I thought Timo should have scored the first time of asking.

But he never score first time unless he’s offside!

Still a bit concerned where the goals are going to come from in this team, Havertz isn’t exactly the most clinical of finishers and Timo is.. well Timo. 

6 minutes ago, dan_cfc said:

Still a bit concerned where the goals are going to come from in this team, Havertz isn’t exactly the most clinical of finishers and Timo is.. well Timo. 

Last season we scored our 3rd highest number of goals in the PL era despite not having a stand our scorer.

The trick with this squad is everyone's a striker, so to speak, Sarr out of all our regulars was the only one who didn't net atleast once.

1 hour ago, Argo said:

Last season we scored our 3rd highest number of goals in the PL era despite not having a stand our scorer.

The trick with this squad is everyone's a striker, so to speak, Sarr out of all our regulars was the only one who didn't net atleast once.

I don’t recall Sarr ever taking a shot on goal or a header on goal.  Did he?

17 minutes ago, Phillip said:

I don’t recall Sarr ever taking a shot on goal or a header on goal.  Did he?

I can't for the life of me remember when, where and against who but I feel i can remember one chance that forced a top save but other than that no.

Was at the game - good time, amazing stadium (I love SB, but it’s not a patch on modern stadiums), and the CA fans were superb. Played the drums for 90 mins non stop - not what we’re used to but love the culture in football. 
 

- We still miss 1-1s

- Dave’s legs have sadly gone. It’s very evident

- Attack is starved of service and struggles to self-create 

- Midfield lacks creativity and ability to drive thru lines (Kova best at this, Gallagher showed glimpses)

- To me, it’s a limitation of the system. We compress the pitch and it’s a very lateral setup (pass, recycle, sideways or back). Has its strengths but forces a deep game 

What stood out to a biased fan!

- Mason Mount (or as the giant screen announced after his goal, Mason Hunt) is a different class

- Proud to see Mount, Reece, CHO, Gallagher and Chalobah all feature  superb 

- Silva is sublime. He can still sprint well also 

Honestly without an alternate system I think we’ll be having many similar debates this coming season.

KTBFFH

 

20 hours ago, ducavis said:

Where would you stick the 5 wingers then? Not convinced his unconventional formation will get the best of out of Sterling especially with Kovacic and Jorginho behind him. Hell of a step down going from Bernardo Silva & De Bruyne to this.

I wasn’t considering the full picture so I agree with you, all things considered it would be strange to keep the 3-4-2-1 with Sterling in the starting lineup.

13 hours ago, dan_cfc said:

Still a bit concerned where the goals are going to come from in this team, Havertz isn’t exactly the most clinical of finishers and Timo is.. well Timo. 

Maybe we should give Broja a start ??

On 17/07/2022 at 11:38, azpi28 said:

Club America already fully match fit, and we playing our first game 

not really that much you can read into this game 

didn't see the game

i would like to see some compilations of Ampadu, Kenedy & Gallagher 

https://twitter.com/wales_watch/status/1549124433096450049?s=20&t=Xo8zscnxTHjVJ6LeIRS-fg

3 hours ago, Backbiter said:

https://twitter.com/wales_watch/status/1549124433096450049?s=20&t=Xo8zscnxTHjVJ6LeIRS-fg

Didnt see any phenomenal passing in that video smh. Not criticising him, just the title over hyping his ability.

On 18/07/2022 at 10:25, PhilH930 said:

 

- Midfield lacks creativity and ability to drive thru lines (Kova best at this, Gallagher showed glimpses)

- To me, it’s a limitation of the system. We compress the pitch and it’s a very lateral setup (pass, recycle, sideways or back). Has its strengths but forces a deep game 

 

KTBFFH

 

You explained our offense very nicely. 

I watched some of our games last season to write an article on why we struggle offensively and it really comes down to our lack of creative player. We need at least two of mount, kova, james, Ziyech n cho to play and they need to play well otherwise our offense simply does not work at all.