3 hours ago, JM7 said:

Roman, for all his fault was actually pretty good at selecting managers. Rarely got it wrong. I think he could spot a winner.

I think he fired everyone bar one...I guess he was good at picking short term managers,  I wonder what he said when he hired them  "You have 18-24 months. Win something then I fire you, you walk off with big pay packet" 

3 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Whoever gave Potter his coaching license needs to be arrested for fraud as well

Maybe they were mistaken and should have given him his coach drivers license...

19 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

If we don't start picking up points soon, then we are in deep trouble. Our run of fixtures in the last 8 games is mostly really tough. Trouble is our next 7 opponents are all in way better form than us. 

What you thinking? We take Southamptons place?

I would be interested to see if the owners remain true to their word to Potter if that looked possible, if we continued to lose and score very few goals 

The thing that troubles me is that Potter is just a symptom, and we have a bigger problem - this whole edifice could come crashing down. I used to bang on about this, then let it go and decided to try and get behind behind Potter, thinking maybe there were green shoots. Didn’t last long 😂 
 

These owners have spent a massive amount of money, including other people’s money…. Money that couldn’t care less about anything to do with Chelsea other than it becoming a profitable venture. And here’s the thing. As distinct from the petrostates, they care about this a LOT, and will start asking questions very soon.
 

They’ll start looking at the numbers and will ask “WTAF? £300 million in one transfer window?? How the hell are we going to get any sort of return on this investment?” .

The odds are massively stacked against anyone making any money given this exorbitant outlay. Especially - and this is key - if we DO get a recession, which also has pretty high odds of happening. These guys are hugely leveraged to the business cycle. They will lose a lot of money in a nasty recession. If that comes to pass, id say it’s odds on that this whole Chelsea project blows up, and the chances are way too high for comfort even without that happening.
 

If it happens, In the not too distance future, many on here will be longing for the “deadwood” players they so desperately wanted shipped out. 
 

They’re in it for the “long term” 😂, we’re told. They can “ride the storm.” Sure. Investors are no different to football fans (or maybe it’s just the human race). They want to think they’re  in it for the long term, coz it sounds good. But, with very few exceptions, they soon realise they don’t have the patience they thought they did. Or even if they do, the debt collectors come calling. 

I wonder if we could entice Burnley to do a straight swap...they are well on their way to being promoted anyway, so nick Vincent and give them GP. 

The board after today.

Edited February 18, 20233 yr by Blue Ares

Errr yeah...you are the problem.  What a dumb statement...sadly the pressure is clearly getting too him

 

Edited February 18, 20233 yr by CFCCAN

1 minute ago, CFCCAN said:

Very astute observation Graham.

Funny part is this squad under any elite coach genuinely has a chance at winning the ucl. I remember hearing how the board and squad quietly think we stand a chance this season of winning. I'd never heard a more outlandish idea, under Potter not only are we not winning it, we're on course to be knocked out in the last 16. Meaning we would have been knocked out of the first round of cup ko rounds this season for the first time in however many decades.

there is no character

Edited February 18, 20233 yr by JJ8
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Well I'm sure Boehly and co will see and hear the backlash if we loose to Spurs..

 

10 minutes ago, CFCCAN said:

Well I'm sure Boehly and co will see and hear the backlash if we loose to Spurs..

 

He is changing his tune.

I posted this in the match thread, but I think it fits well here too. As one of Potters biggest supporters on here I do think he made some bad calls today.

I didn't have any complaints about the line up Potter picked, only a concern about Ben being overplayed so close to his return.

Otherwise the side made sense. Thiago himself said he does need time off now and again to recover, we don't want to overplay James and him get injured again, many wanted to see an Enzo and Kova pairing, many wanted DDF up front, Felix has played well every game just poor finishing against Dortmund, Mount always ups his game vs Southampton etc.

I don't see how that side lacked the professional pride to put a shift in, they we so out worked by Saints it was criminal and many should be docked pay. Only DDF and Chilwell, imo, put close to the effort required in that first half.

Where I disagree with Potter is his subs. DDF is raw but we take him off, when he was the only one to worry them in that first half, for Sterling and play Mount up front?

We have 5 subs, set a tone man that the performance, nevermind the scoreline, is not acceptable. You can show you mean business and say to Mount, Felix and Madueke what they produced was unacceptable.

Send on Sterling, Mudryk and Gallagher for those 3 and tell them you expect them to work. You know Gallagher will work even if he does not provide quality often enough.

Make that statement. Instead you made a statement that it was more important to give Wes a run out, and that working hard is punished and laziness is rewarded, when you took off DDF and left on Felix, Madueke and Mount.

You still have some patience from  some of us fans Graham, but you have to show the players that being lazy is not acceptable, otherwise those of us who are still supporting you will stop, and I think that will include the owners eventually too. 

Step up man, or you will make it look like you are happy to take your pay off and go

"Please Sack Graham Potter" to the oh Santi Carzola chant 😂😂 get the whole of Stamford Bridge rocking to that! 

Jokes aside though these stats scream, Ambramovich arriving in a helicopter

9 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

"Please Sack Graham Potter" to the oh Santi Carzola chant 😂😂 get the whole of Stamford Bridge rocking to that! 

Jokes aside though these stats scream, Ambramovich arriving in a helicopter

 

To be fair to Potter.

Chelsea was the one that decided to give him the job, and paid him a truck load of money too.

Could have chosen more wisely.

i feel sad for him

look a nice person and this is the chance of his life 

very sad that is not working but he is not good enough 

46 minutes ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Funny part is this squad under any elite coach genuinely has a chance at winning the ucl. I remember hearing how the board and squad quietly think we stand a chance this season of winning. I'd never heard a more outlandish idea, under Potter not only are we not winning it, we're on course to be knocked out in the last 16. Meaning we would have been knocked out of the first round of cup ko rounds this season for the first time in however many decades.

I agree the season is redeemable if we Sack Potter asap but what's frustrating is due to how the season has gone with other clubs we'd have walked into the top 4 with any of the 50 or 60 active managers who are better than Potter who all had better resumes prior to him coming here.

I'm not even talking about an elite manager, I'd have kept Tuchel but even after Tommy left if we'd brought in Unai Emery, Poch, Brendan Rodgers, Pellegrini or even Big Sam we'd have salvaged something for the season.

Giving the job to a manager with one of the worst records in Europe over the last 3 years who was regularly booed off by Brighton supporters and blindly backing him as some kind of long term project when he's never managed a decent side in his career and has got worse results with a small one than managers like Pulis, Big Sam, Dyche, Bielsa, Vieira, Dean smith, Nuno, Roberto Martinez (The list of managers with better records at small clubs than Potter really just goes on and on) and just hoping he'd perform with better players is one of the all time worst decisions in football and that was obvious at the time.

Edited February 19, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter

25 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

He is changing his tune.

They all do, all the people that were saying give him time 'he needs a whole season', and now their saying 'enough is enough', without giving him the time.

7 minutes ago, coco said:

They all do, all the people that were saying give him time 'he needs a whole season', and now their saying 'enough is enough', without giving him the time.

That's because those people who said give him time just assumed things wouldn't get worse. They'd either stay the same or get better. 

In November and January we weren't losing to bad teams. The problem was we weren't getting better. The draw away to forest was the first time we dropped points to a team in the bottom half. They, me being one, didn't envisage that draw to forest would lead to us being outplayed by the worst team in the league when we had no real injuries in the squad. 

Now we are getting worse it feels difficult to see where we get the ten points we need to confident we stay up. 

Edited February 19, 20233 yr by bisright1

2 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

That's because those people who said give him time just assumed things wouldn't get worse. They'd either stay the same or get better. 

In November and January we weren't losing to bad teams. The problem was we weren't getting better. The draw away to forest was the first time we dropped points to a team in the bottom half. They, me being one, didn't envisage that draw to forest would lead to us being outplayed by the worst team in the league when we had no real injuries in the squad. 

Now we are getting worse it feels difficult to see where we get the ten points we need to confident we stay up. 

He's had half this team for just a few weeks, and yet those that said 'give him time' have waited a couple of weeks now since all the new team has been put together, they are either bottle jobs or hypocrites.

6 minutes ago, coco said:

He's had half this team for just a few weeks, and yet those that said 'give him time' have waited a couple of weeks now since all the new team has been put together, they are either bottle jobs or hypocrites.

A lot of us have been Potter out since early December, even in the first poll I made around 30% wanted him gone

Just now, Drogba1 said:

A lot of us have been Potter out since early December, even in the first poll I made around 30% wanted him gone

Well I'm not talking about the likes of you then. Only the ones that said before the January window 'give him time', then after all these new players came in, they waited a couple of weeks and now are saying 'enough', they literally waited 2-3 games.

38 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

That's because those people who said give him time just assumed things wouldn't get worse. They'd either stay the same or get better. 

In November and January we weren't losing to bad teams. The problem was we weren't getting better. The draw away to forest was the first time we dropped points to a team in the bottom half. They, me being one, didn't envisage that draw to forest would lead to us being outplayed by the worst team in the league when we had no real injuries in the squad. 

Now we are getting worse it feels difficult to see where we get the ten points we need to confident we stay up. 

last week you said we'd at least challenge for a title next season and win it by the season after under Potter

I believe you also asked me if I'd change my name when we win the title under Potter

Now you're talking about us not getting enough points to avoid relegation?

I know the performance was poor today but so poor it forced you into a Boris Johnson level U turn? Wow.

Edited February 19, 20233 yr by TimesUpPotter

It is what it is.

Christ, this could not be worse. He needs to be fired. I have no room for sentiment - he is not a winner and is regressing our club. It sounds cold but he needs to be fired as soon as possible.