22 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

He can't have been that good, he sacked them every 18 months. 

And won titles ,cups and CL

22 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

He can't have been that good, he sacked them every 18 months. 

He had a lot of winners lined up and even then some didn't work out well.

Boehly can't put all of his eggs in that Potter basket, I don't believe he will seeing how good our signings have been, he has to have some tricks up his sleeve...

What are we meant to say here, potter needs to go, it's really that simple. Who do we get in ? Depends, is it short term until end of season or long term replacement, that's key. I'd give Silva player manager status and assess after that tbh, couldn't be any worse surely shirley.  Not sure if its that easy nowadays if he has his coaching badges etc .

2 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Well is partly on him, but is also on the players. We were told what a game changing signing Enzo would be, still seeing very much a diamond in the rough there myself.

He played Mount, Felix and Madueke against the worst side in the league. What did they do? How much of a shift did they put in?

How about the attacking subs? Sterling misses 2 sitters and cannot trap a ball, mudryk makes blind runs in to defenders. Havertz actually looked our best attacker, thar says a lot.

Clear the players have turned on Potter to me and don't give a sh*t in most cases, though not players like James, Silva, Chilwell or either Fofana. Why? Because they are simply too good to let any manager, no matter how bad he may be, make them play this poorly.

The players before and during Grant and RDM showed this. We have some class players, yet they cannot score goals and play like that? Yeah all on Potter they have no professional pride.

All players are like that, not just ours. Player's won't trust a process without results, especially when the manager is completely unqualfied. Frank Lampard, one of the most professional players ever, pretty much admitted to throwing Villas Boas under the bus for example.

10 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

Former players reacting to that shambolic post-match interview. Now imagine how our players are feeling. Never heard so many sh*t excuses in my life.

JOH is a spud and GA is an Arsenal fan, they want us to be destabilized so love putting the boot in.

Graham Potter is an good bloke and honorable man, if he felt he could not turn this around he would walk imo. You agree @just?

1 minute ago, Drogba1 said:

All players are like that, not just ours. Player's won't trust a process without results, especially when the manager is completely unqualfied. Frank Lampard, one of the most professional players ever, pretty much admitted to throwing Villas Boas under the bus for example.

Sorry state but you are right. Seems very ungrateful to me for the gifts you are blessed with.

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

JOH is a spud and GA is an Arsenal fan, they want us to be destabilized so love putting the boot in.

Graham Potter is an good bloke and honorable man, if he felt he could not turn this around he would walk imo. You agree @just?

There's no way he's walking away from a 60m payday. And I'm not too sure about the honorable part, he ditched Brighton and took half their staff after the club had helped him build for 3 years.

1 minute ago, JM7 said:

The players belief in the manager is crucial. They don’t look like they have any belief in him or his tactics. 

Why would Sterling, Silva, Azipa, Kante etc… senior players believe in him when the have all had world class managers and know a good manager.

2 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

JOH is a spud and GA is an Arsenal fan, they want us to be destabilized so love putting the boot in.

Graham Potter is an good bloke and honorable man, if he felt he could not turn this around he would walk imo. You agree @just?

Destabilized? Sacking him would improve us massively.
Had we done it a month ago we'd be in the Top 4 race right now with Newcastle in terrible form.

If anything i'm seeing agendas from for example United supportes to keep Potter in his job. Because they know we are royally screwed and no challenge for as long as that continues.

41 minutes ago, JM7 said:

We’re assuming that the club are happy to write this season off. We don’t know whether they are or not but in American sports, that is a tactic of theirs. They tank the season in order to build for next season. It’s unheard of here. 
 

Or maybe they’re not given the money spent. My bet is that they’re willing to ride it through. They promised Potter that when he signed up and whether top 4 was critical. 

This isnt American sports though. That works for them because there is no threat of income or reputational loss, infact the worse off your season the better chance of getting the next big star through the draft system. No relegation, huge team sponsorships, huge media deals, huge merchandise deals. It doesn't really matter how you perform, a well run sports franchise ie business will be very profitable. 

I am more convinced now than ever that there are performance clauses in Potter's contract so they just have to wait till season end for those clauses to come in to play. 

No chance, absolutely no way a billionaire that thrives on data driven decision making is blind to what we can all see, and not only that but the stats and data are screaming out loud. In fact the more I think of it the more certain I am that's the case. Even though I am peeved at his appointment of GP, I respect what he's achieved in the Business and Investment world, you don't fluke into that position by luck at his age. 

It's only a matter of time. The needful will be done but he will let it go till end of season to minimise the financial hit the club will take or at least once those clauses get triggered. If he is signing players long term with that model, surely he did same with the management team and no wonder the deal seems so huge. You have to balance the risk and reward. If you are going to tell a man you'll be cut lose with not very sufficient compensation then you'll pay him at a premium to balance that risk whilst he is in that job.

What the clauses are, we don't know but for all the criticism he has looked to get involved, attending home and away games. He sees what we see. I'm calm about our long term managerial situation, it will be sorted. 

 

 

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Best thing Boehly can do is buy his development club in Portugal, France, Germany or wherever, and put Potter in charge of that, and then hire a proper manager to win things at Chelsea.

If this season is a write-off, then bring in someone decent who can have half a season to get their ideas into the team. Otherwise we'll be even worse come the summer.

41 minutes ago, forbzy said:

I assume they have already decided that they are prepared to write off the money that would have come from Champions League qualification next season, in hopes of a better outcome long term. That will already have cost them a lot more than 12m

Yes, but that will reside with the management and the players. The cost of Potter is directly attributed to the board

2 minutes ago, Zeta said:

If this season is a write-off, then bring in someone decent who can have half a season to get their ideas into the team. Otherwise we'll be even worse come the summer.

If we are going to write off the season, we might as well install Thiago Silva as player manager, or even Lampard as caretaker. Potter doesn't deserve to coach us

50 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Parking Potter for 5 minutes, the New Zealand guy hasn't had a very good first week either has he LOL

Exactly,  if you can't change the man, change the man.

Still hoping for that one

Is sacking Thomas Tuchel for Graham Potter the biggest downgrade in managerial history?

As Guardiola said, we need to give Potter time. At least until the end of the season, and preferably however long he's in charge of City.

Losers will always find some excuses, rotation, played  on Wednesday night ( won't be doing it anymore), bad luck.. The list goes on, and to be honest we used up most of them so far, may have to come up with something new. Like Potter once said this is the most difficult job in football, if he truly believes that, it's better to take a pay out and go find something easier to do. The values of Boehly's 300M signings are diminishing with each game like this, another 4 years or 4 months like this he may have to spend another 300M to cover the last 300M.

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

He can't have been that good, he sacked them every 18 months. 

Very lazy narrative usually peddled by the oppos to score points at local boozer with mates about the virtue in stability and long term management. 

3 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Disagree, aside from sacking Tuchel and not hiring a DOF in the summer he hasn't been bad at all. Our January signings have all been sound. The problem is Potter at this point, and no one else.

And who sacked Tuchel, didn't hire a DoF and hired Potter?

Oh right. Boehly.

Was Bohley at the game today?

Just now, JM7 said:

Was Bohley at the game today?

Let's hope so and lets hope the boos turn on him shortly. Leveraged us up with a billion dollars of debt for players and we're worse than we were when we had a youth crew and a transfer ban.

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Best thing Boehly can do is buy his development club in Portugal, France, Germany or wherever, and put Potter in charge of that, and then hire a proper manager to win things at Chelsea.

Best thing Boehly can do is sell us to someone who knows what they are doing. 

2 minutes ago, Spiller86 said:

Best thing Boehly can do is sell us to someone who knows what they are doing. 

Well we allowed then government to strip away our club from Roman from some BS reasons, but passionately reacted about the super league. 

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

Well we allowed then government to strip away our club from Roman from some BS reasons, but passionately reacted about the super league. 

Not sure we had much say in the matter.