6 hours ago, Argo said:

And what we earn in a week or two is a lifetime salary (at best) in poverty stricken parts of Africa and North Korea. Where is the moral line drawn?

I'm assuming by this post you don't have a sky/BT subscription or go to games?

What has what I’ve got to do with it. I worked hard every day of my life to look after my family. No one gave me a ridiculous amount of money to sit on my arse, because I never had a contract that gave me millions of pounds for doing f**k all. If I had a day off for any reason I got f**k all.

13 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Ah yeah, I think that's more about termination of contract - we couldn't end his deal with just cause because he kept showing up for training meaning he was fulfilling his end of the bargain. I still think the same principle applies to this though, so long as the players try/intend to hold up their end of the deal, we can't refuse to allow them to train and if we did it would likely forfeit their contracts allowing them to move for peanuts.

Regardless of legality, it's still a stupid move - witness AVB's implosion when he banished Alex and Anelka to the reserves in much the same fashion, losing the respect of everyone almost immediately.

I am still curious. Can we give them indefinite paid holiday ? which is kinda the discussion in the 1st place. So they are still paid the full wages but they can stay at home drinking and sleeping. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

I am still curious. Can we give them indefinite paid holiday ? which is kinda the discussion in the 1st place. So they are still paid the full wages but they can stay at home drinking and sleeping. 

 

 

They are contractors so presumably not entitled to actual "leave' as we would know it.

In the Suarez case, CAS ruled that FIFA's ban on "all football-related activities" was unreasonable as restricting Suarez from being able to train with his team could be an unreasonable restriction of trade. So I don't think we can exclude them from training facilities and tell them to take a holiday. They could do this if they wanted of course, but seeing as most contracts would have some general obligations about showing up to training, on time, meeting club requirements etc. we would likely have grounds to terminate and sue them for breach of contract. 

Bogarde's case was an example of where he met every single one of his obligations to the letter of the law and contract, which means Chelsea didn't have a reason to breach him.

9 hours ago, Kev56 said:

What has what I’ve got to do with it. I worked hard every day of my life to look after my family. No one gave me a ridiculous amount of money to sit on my arse, because I never had a contract that gave me millions of pounds for doing f**k all. If I had a day off for any reason I got f**k all.

Point is, to people struggling for their next meal in Africa or North Korea what we (the average Brit/European) earn would look ridiculous. 

Where does the line get drawn on what's obscene and what isn't? But like I said, football only has these wages because we enable it, if everyone so upset about what footballers earn cut their subscriptions, stop going to the games and buying the merchandise the wages would revert back to a more 'normal' level pretty quickly.

25 minutes ago, Argo said:

Point is, to people struggling for their next meal in Africa or North Korea what we (the average Brit/European) earn would look ridiculous. 

Where does the line get drawn on what's obscene and what isn't? But like I said, football only has these wages because we enable it, if everyone so upset about what footballers earn cut their subscriptions, stop going to the games and buying the merchandise the wages would revert back to a more 'normal' level pretty quickly.

I know exactly what people earn in Africa I’ve worked there many times. I’ve been going to Chelsea since 1968, got up there in the shed bought program with the money I earned doing a paper round before school and as a push bike delivery boy every day after school. I do not need you to tell me about global economics. As for the PL I do not not go so much now, preferring to watch my local team Slough. My opinion, my take on things butt out with your opinions on me. 

We've done alright getting Pochettino. Need to keep him for 3 years minimum. 

3 hours ago, Argo said:

Point is, to people struggling for their next meal in Africa or North Korea what we (the average Brit/European) earn would look ridiculous. 

Where does the line get drawn on what's obscene and what isn't? But like I said, football only has these wages because we enable it, if everyone so upset about what footballers earn cut their subscriptions, stop going to the games and buying the merchandise the wages would revert back to a more 'normal' level pretty quickly.

Maybe we're all different but I think we definitely draw the line at average footballers earning £100k-£200k PER WEEK as opposed to folk who are on £100k+ per year.

As for everyone boycotting subscriptions I would be more than happy to do that if we ALL did it but I'm not going to make a stand and cancel mine when every other f**ker down my road or at work doesn't and then tells me about the great game I missed on Sky yesterday!!

But something HAS to change.

 

2 minutes ago, Nibs said:

Maybe we're all different but I think we definitely draw the line at average footballers earning £100k-£200k PER WEEK as opposed to folk who are on £100k+ per year.

As for everyone boycotting subscriptions I would be more than happy to do that if we ALL did it but I'm not going to make a stand and cancel mine when every other f**ker down my road or at work doesn't and then tells me about the great game I missed on Sky yesterday!!

But something HAS to change.

 

Exactly but some arseholes defend this obscene system.

3 hours ago, Kev56 said:

I  My opinion, my take on things butt out with your opinions on me. 

I would have happily "butted out" if you didn't quote me with a personal attack then repeat the trick just now.

21 hours ago, Argo said:

Because the vast majority of players have families and the more money the more generations are set up.

They may also want a safety net incase they hit a period of reckless spending/addiction once their career is over.

I can't really hold it against any of these players if they want to sit on a contract, not even Mr first touch, it's on us for giving them out in the first place.

Quite possibly the most stupid f**king comment ever.

You  think the likes of aubameyang buys all his Ferraris for his ‘generations’  and in case of a future addiction. What a crock of sh*t.

2 minutes ago, Kev56 said:

Quite possibly the most stupid f**king comment ever.

You  think the likes of aubameyang buys all his Ferraris for his ‘generations’  and in case of a future addiction. What a crock of sh*t.

Footballers many of whom didn't have a pot to piss in growing up wouldn't want to ensure their loved ones don't go through the same, makes sense.

Anyway why is it always footballers that are made the scapegoat to the way the modern world is? I never see TV personalities or actors (who unlike footballers don't nesseserily need the talent to "make it") on the receiving end of these angry dare i say hate fuelled rants.

14 minutes ago, Kev56 said:

Quite possibly the most stupid f**king comment ever.

You  think the likes of aubameyang buys all his Ferraris for his ‘generations’  and in case of a future addiction. What a crock of sh*t.

There's an argument that players who were brought up from poverty are typically the ones that like to secure long term wealth. Kante for example is apparently on the verge of buying a football club in the Belgium league. We can probably expect other sort of investments from him as well. He's being smart with his money and will quite literally set his future generation forever with this kind of planning. 

Flamini used his wealth to fund GF Biochemicals, which is now a billion dollar entity. 

 

 

Edited June 14, 20233 yr by Sconnie Blue

Just now, Argo said:

Footballers many of whom didn't have a pot to piss in growing up wouldn't want to ensure their loved ones don't go through the same, makes sense.

Anyway why is it always footballers that are made the scapegoat to the way the modern world is? I never see TV personalities or actors (who unlike footballers don't nesseserily need the talent to "make it") on the receiving end of these angry dare i say hate fuelled rants.

Don’t give a f**k about tv personalities, celebs or f**king influencers. This is  about footballers. Overpaid prema donnas, who don’t get their own way, sign up to a contract and basically don’t give a f**k but want their wages. If you don’t get this ok. Ffs f**k off.

1 minute ago, Kev56 said:

Don’t give a f**k about tv personalities, celebs or f**king influencers. This is  about footballers. Overpaid prema donnas, who don’t get their own way, sign up to a contract and basically don’t give a f**k but want their wages. If you don’t get this ok. Ffs f**k off.

So they can earn as much money as they can command within their industry without any vitriol but when footballers do it's crime of the century? Got it!

4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

There's an argument that players who were brought up from poverty are typically the ones that like to secure long term wealth. Kante for example is apparently on the verge of buying a football club in the Belgium league. We can probably expect other sort of investments from him as well. He's being smart with his money and will quite literally set his future generation forever with this kind of planning. 

Flamini used his wealth to fund GF Biochemicals, which is now a billion dollar entity. 

 

 

But did the said players, down tools, whinge moan and bitch, hold the club to ransom and would rather be somewhere else?

1 minute ago, Argo said:

So they can earn as much money as they can command within their industry without any vitriol but when footballers do it's crime of the century? Got it!

f**k me you’re missing the point. End of.

Typical f**king modern day football so called fan. I’m done with it. f**king pathetic. Good bye.

3 minutes ago, Kev56 said:

But did the said players, down tools, whinge moan and bitch, hold the club to ransom and would rather be somewhere else?

Are you saying there should be a wage cap?

1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Are you saying there should be a wage cap?

All I was saying is where has the loyalty, respect and professionalism gone. Unfortunately this modern day football and follows don’t know what this is. Some on here don’t get it. But it’s their opinion, not mine. So reluctantly I’m done with this site, bye.

5 minutes ago, Kev56 said:

All I was saying is where has the loyalty, respect and professionalism gone. Unfortunately this modern day football and follows don’t know what this is. Some on here don’t get it. But it’s their opinion, not mine. So reluctantly I’m done with this site, bye.

Probably for the best If you can't take contrasting opinions without (repeatedly) throwing juvenile insults around.

It's a shame as before this I thought you were a decent poster but oh well.

Apparently Pochettino has told the board if we can not get an elite level Goalkeeper (Onana, Magic Mike of Milan or Oblek) for a reasonable price then he is happy to have Kepa as his number 1.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Apparently Pochettino has told the board if we can not get an elite level Goalkeeper (Onana, Magic Mike of Milan or Oblek) for a reasonable price then he is happy to have Kepa as his number 1.

Settling for mediocrity is how you turn your club from elite to average

Edited June 15, 20233 yr by cfcforeverfan

3 minutes ago, cfcforeverfan said:

Settling for mediocrity is how you turn your club from elite to average

Well he was at Spurs a long time so average probably seems a huge step up lol 

5 minutes ago, cfcforeverfan said:

Settling for mediocrity is how you turn your club from elite to average

As does panic buying a poor solution, as we found singing Lukaku and the 2017 lot Conte loaded us with.

54 minutes ago, Argo said:

As does panic buying a poor solution, as we found singing Lukaku and the 2017 lot Conte loaded us with.

If we have sufficient funds we shouldn’t resort to panic buying. We have 50+ days before season starts. We should have plenty of time to buy a GK, a CB, 2 midfielder, 1 winger and 1 striker to challenge for every trophies in the next season