1 minute ago, dermott said:

None of the salary sites are reliable.

So, Bob's argument that PSG pays higher wages is also based on nothingness.

40 minutes ago, RMH said:

According to capology (I don;t know how reliable the place is, but it is widely used), these are the two club's wages in 2025/26:

Chelsea:

PSG: (in sterling, these are: £3,075,462; £159,956,639; £221,883,141; £6,152,370)

The gross fixed salaries are not that much higher at PSG, nothing that a FOS contract wouldn't fix, and the total wages include bonuses. There is probably the clue, we win fcuk all, the salaries remain lower as there are no bonuses.

Capology number is useless. You can use deloitte, UEFA or club own acc.

25 minutes ago, RMH said:

So, Bob's argument that PSG pays higher wages is also based on nothingness.

They might well pay more, I don't know. Capology, etc, base their numbers on rumour, speculation. Just as Transfermarket bases its player valuations on user input.

Could of sworn Spotrac actually takes their numbers from the club's reported accounts.

41 minutes ago, dermott said:

None of the salary sites are reliable.

Probably more reliable than Bob's "SD's are doing good job for owners, what you think PSG players are on?"

1 hour ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Probably more reliable than Bob's "SD's are doing good job for owners, what you think PSG players are on?"

The lad means well.

12 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

Probably more reliable than Bob's "SD's are doing good job for owners, what you think PSG players are on?"

😂😂😂

I have been very critical on our board n SD since 2 seasons ago.

I said what they gave poch was crazy for top team. I thought what Maresca got last season was more normal for a top team.

Edited May 8May 8 by Bob stark

15 hours ago, dermott said:

The lad means well.

This whole situation around SD is strange, I don't like some of the stuff that they do but big picture wise, the board say I want Brighton model, the SD is running Brighton model.

1 hour ago, Bob stark said:

This whole situation around SD is strange, I don't like some of the stuff that they do but big picture wise, the board say I want Brighton model, the SD is running Brighton model.

If your asking have they done a good job in turning us into Brighton then of course, the problem is Brighton coming up and staying there on their budget etc was good for them.

We was already way ahead of that, Brighton was a massive step backwards for our club….. nobody here aspired to be like bloody Brighton!

So yeah they have taken us backwards to be more like Brighton than Brighton who are looking for CL football.

Pay rises all round.

3 minutes ago, C3blue said:

If your asking have they done a good job in turning us into Brighton then of course, the problem is Brighton coming up and staying there on their budget etc was good for them.

We was already way ahead of that, Brighton was a massive step backwards for our club….. nobody here aspired to be like bloody Brighton!

So yeah they have taken us backwards to be more like Brighton than Brighton who are looking for CL football.

Pay rises all round.

If you are unhappy that we run brighton model, you shoud be unhappy with board not with the sd.

I personally don't like the SD. I don't like kinetic bs.

Edited May 8May 8 by Bob stark

50 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

If you are unhappy that we run brighton model, you shoud be unhappy with board not with the sd.

I personally don't like the SD. I don't like kinetic bs.

50 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

If you are unhappy that we run brighton model, you shoud be unhappy with board not with the sd.

I personally don't like the SD. I don't like kinetic bs.

Your right I’m unhappy with the lot of them, one for selling it and one for buying it.

2 hours ago, Bob stark said:

This whole situation around SD is strange, I don't like some of the stuff that they do but big picture wise, the board say I want Brighton model, the SD is running Brighton model.

Except that we are not spending like Brighton but like an elite club, it's not like Brighton can spend £2.5 billions. We've ended up like Brighton this season, spending like City, and we'll end up fighting relegation like Spurs next season.

4 hours ago, C3blue said:

If your asking have they done a good job in turning us into Brighton then of course, the problem is Brighton coming up and staying there on their budget etc was good for them.

We was already way ahead of that, Brighton was a massive step backwards for our club….. nobody here aspired to be like bloody Brighton!

So yeah they have taken us backwards to be more like Brighton than Brighton who are looking for CL football.

Pay rises all round.

Agreed. It would be the equivalent of England appointing Thomas Tuchel and giving him the brief to model our national team on Scotland, and then to be giving each other high fives because we scraped into qualifying for one world cup competition, eh @Boyne @erskblue ? 😁😁

1 hour ago, WhiteWall said:

Agreed. It would be the equivalent of England appointing Thomas Tuchel and giving him the brief to model our national team on Scotland, and then to be giving each other high fives because we scraped into qualifying for one world cup competition, eh @Boyne @erskblue ? 😁😁

No - we'd miss qualification for the World Cup and the Euros, but all would be well because we won the UEFA Nations League C competiiton 😎

15 hours ago, RMH said:

Except that we are not spending like Brighton but like an elite club, it's not like Brighton can spend £2.5 billions. We've ended up like Brighton this season, spending like City, and we'll end up fighting relegation like Spurs next season.

We are not though. Spending 80 m on 1 player is very different to spending 80 m on 2 kids.

Edited May 9May 9 by Bob stark

🤣🤣

That article bears no resemblance to reality is it a spoof?

On 08/05/2026 at 13:50, WhiteWall said:

Agreed. It would be the equivalent of England appointing Thomas Tuchel and giving him the brief to model our national team on Scotland, and then to be giving each other high fives because we scraped into qualifying for one world cup competition, eh @Boyne @erskblue ? 😁😁

It would be good to see Scotland get out of the group stage for a change. I remember Scotland appearing in the 1974 World Cup and they should have got out of the group stage. Let down by not scoring enough goals against Zaire. That was a great Scotland squad. Probably even better than the 1978 squad. The 1978 squad or rather the manager Ally McLeod underestimated Peru and Iran. The joke at the time was that Mickey Mouse was given an Ally McLeod watch.

8 minutes ago, Boyne said:

It would be good to see Scotland get out of the group stage for a change. I remember Scotland appearing in the 1974 World Cup and they should have got out of the group stage. Let down by not scoring enough goals against Zaire. That was a great Scotland squad. Probably even better than the 1978 squad. The 1978 squad or rather the manager Ally McLeod underestimated Peru and Iran. The joke at the time was that Mickey Mouse was given an Ally McLeod watch.

I think the Willie Johnston affair in the middle of the tournament didn't help matters and as soon as it all started going wrong Ally's Tartan Army quickly came back to haunt him. But in a tournament with those fabulous Dutch and Argie teams, Gemmill's goal is still a major highlight almost 50 years later.

5 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I think the Willie Johnston affair in the middle of the tournament didn't help matters and as soon as it all started going wrong Ally's Tartan Army quickly came back to haunt him. But in a tournament with those fabulous Dutch and Argie teams, Gemmill's goal is still a major highlight almost 50 years later.

You're right, the Willie Johnston affair didn't help. Led to a different version of We're on the March with Ally's Army i.e. We're on the Drugs with Ally's Army. Yes, Gemmill's goal is still a major highlight. If only Scotland hadn't underestimated Peru and Iran. Agree, those Dutch and Argie teams were brilliant. I'll watch some of this year's World Cup but I can't get excited about international football these days.

39 minutes ago, Boyne said:

You're right, the Willie Johnston affair didn't help. Led to a different version of We're on the March with Ally's Army i.e. We're on the Drugs with Ally's Army. Yes, Gemmill's goal is still a major highlight. If only Scotland hadn't underestimated Peru and Iran. Agree, those Dutch and Argie teams were brilliant. I'll watch some of this year's World Cup but I can't get excited about international football these days.

I think we all underestimated Peru. Our TV commentaries back then we're so arrogant misinformed. If you weren't Brazil or Argentina the rest of South America were inconsequential also rans. Peru were brilliant in that tournament if I remember correctly. Was it Cubillas or a name like that?

5 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I think we all underestimated Peru. Our TV commentaries back then we're so arrogant misinformed. If you weren't Brazil or Argentina the rest of South America were inconsequential also rans. Peru were brilliant in that tournament if I remember correctly. Was it Cubillas or a name like that?

Yes, it was Cubillas. Good point about disregarding those South American teams that weren't Brazil or Argentina. As you say, the arrogance of our TV commentators which we followed. Strange especially given Uruguay won two World Cups. The England team and probably the country as a whole believed that because the game was invented over here that every other country was second rate. Would explain why England didn't enter the World Cup until 1950 and then was beaten by the U.S.A.

8 minutes ago, Boyne said:

Yes, it was Cubillas. Good point about disregarding those South American teams that weren't Brazil or Argentina. As you say, the arrogance of our TV commentators which we followed. Strange especially given Uruguay won two World Cups. The England team and probably the country as a whole believed that because the game was invented over here that every other country was second rate. Would explain why England didn't enter the World Cup until 1950 and then was beaten by the U.S.A.

I remember them showing South American teams having massive punch ups and running battles on the pitch as a humorous anecdotal ending to football shows with the likes of Brian Moore or Dickie Davies or even Saint and Greavsie laughing about those Latin antics.

"Chelsea believe there is an misunderstanding"

Really? because I don't think much changes. They're still sh*t, but now we can say specifically what they are sh*t at. Winstanley is the reason why we end up with players on long and high contracts when they aren't anywhere near good enough. Stewart is the reason why we over spend on them. Shields......my god, must be the worst scout ever. Jewell, same as Shields. Fallows, ah yes, the data guy, what a fine job that data has done for us. Background checks too, shame he didn't spot how unlikeable a lot of our players are before we signed them.

Stewart also responsible for the slow possession play and constant rotation/subs.