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Mathis Amougou

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“Strasbourg have agreed a deal with Chelsea to sign Amougou on a permanent deal”

This is another signing I never understood, why did we even sign him? Will be interesting to see what amount Strasbourg put on their books.

Sarr & Anselminho are another two I just don’t see the point. They are never going to get minutes.

4 minutes ago, markpitts said:

“Strasbourg have agreed a deal with Chelsea to sign Amougou on a permanent deal”

This is another signing I never understood, why did we even sign him? Will be interesting to see what amount Strasbourg put on their books.

Sarr & Anselminho are another two I just don’t see the point. They are never going to get minutes.

Sarr will. Fofana is broken and Chalobah is one of the most valuable, saleable assets this mob have got.

15 minutes ago, markpitts said:

“Strasbourg have agreed a deal with Chelsea to sign Amougou on a permanent deal”

This is another signing I never understood, why did we even sign him? Will be interesting to see what amount Strasbourg put on their books.

Sarr & Anselminho are another two I just don’t see the point. They are never going to get minutes.

All the rumours are that he is homesick and simply wants to return to France. He it seems is part of a two player deal to Strasbourg alongside Samuels-Smith deal in the region of £25-30 million

6 minutes ago, terraloon said:

All the rumours are that he is homesick and simply wants to return to France. He it seems is part of a two player deal to Strasbourg alongside Samuels-Smith deal in the region of £25-30 million

Would I be overly cynical to think that in an environment where we have to hit a sales threshold to comply with these UEFA regulations we've slightly amended our loan policy to one of sales with favourable buy back terms......to ourselves of course.

2 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

Would I be overly cynical to think that in an environment where we have to hit a sales threshold to comply with these UEFA regulations we've slightly amended our loan policy to one of sales with favourable buy back terms......to ourselves of course.

Have to admit when you add in the rumours that Petrovic deal to Bournemouth ( not going to debate should he be sold or not) alongside the two sells to Strasbourg, the fees received for Humphreys, Betolini and Kepa in total are more than £60 million.

Yes you are being cynical. Cough cough!

14 minutes ago, terraloon said:

Have to admit when you add in the rumours that Petrovic deal to Bournemouth ( not going to debate should he be sold or not) alongside the two sells to Strasbourg, the fees received for Humphreys, Betolini and Kepa in total are more than £60 million.

Yes you are being cynical. Cough cough!

I believe the only ones that count are players on our list a last season.

21 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I believe the only ones that count are players on our list a last season.

I thought Amougou was on the list tbh. I'm sure I've seen him play and that must have been in the Conf league, I think.

14 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I believe the only ones that count are players on our list a last season.

This is where it all goes back to the wording on the agreement and what it actually means. The £60 million figure is a figment of a journalists imagination

That same journalist said we could add players to the a list before it’s submitted on 2/9 and take the proceeds from their sales. Not going to go into it all again but my belief is that we are required to submit an A list for season 25/26 and we can only replace players on that list savings are made to compensate.

As someone said to me yesterday is it even feasible that Gittens and Pedro would sign if they weren’t guaranteed/ likely to be on the A List. His view was interesting in that he wonders if people ( journalists) have forgotten how the player costs for the squad ratio costings are put together

Have to probably sell one or two to Strasbourg as the loan limit is pretty low and we need to move some players. Really interesting to see Strasbourg next season and what their squad is like.

2 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

I thought Amougou was on the list tbh. I'm sure I've seen him play and that must have been in the Conf league, I think.

He was. Here’s our A list

Player list A

Lucas Bergstrom
Filip Jorgensen
Robert Sanchez

Tosin Adarabioyo
Benoit Badiashile
Trevoh Chalobah
Marc Cucurella
Malo Gusto
Reece James

Mathis Amougou
Moises Caicedo
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall
Enzo Fernandez

Marc Guiu
Nicolas Jackson
Noni Madueke
Mykhailo Mudryk
Christopher Nkunku
Cole Palmer
Pedro Neto
Jadon Sancho

2 hours ago, terraloon said:

This is where it all goes back to the wording on the agreement and what it actually means. The £60 million figure is a figment of a journalists imagination

That same journalist said we could add players to the a list before it’s submitted on 2/9 and take the proceeds from their sales. Not going to go into it all again but my belief is that we are required to submit an A list for season 25/26 and we can only replace players on that list savings are made to compensate.

As someone said to me yesterday is it even feasible that Gittens and Pedro would sign if they weren’t guaranteed/ likely to be on the A List. His view was interesting in that he wonders if people ( journalists) have forgotten how the player costs for the squad ratio costings are put together

This just reminds me. I should just stop thinking about the accounts side of football and stick to watching the football

7 hours ago, bisright1 said:

This just reminds me. I should just stop thinking about the accounts side of football and stick to watching the football

Problem is we don't play every day. What the hell should you do on these off days then 😅

14 hours ago, terraloon said:

All the rumours are that he is homesick and simply wants to return to France. He it seems is part of a two player deal to Strasbourg alongside Samuels-Smith deal in the region of £25-30 million

Homesickness sounds plausible. I had to look up when we signed him: January 2025. Too short a time to judge whether he'll get decent minutes for us, but long enough for him to realise he's unhappy and wants to go home.

10 minutes ago, Zeta said:

Vast majority of these kids we're signing we will never see. It's just a financial game to these people.

Some of the players are sure just for flipping so to say. 100%. That is what is new to Chelsea. If you do that with intelligence you can make profit with these players as host of clubs in the world do. I think we can use the lure of the big club to some of them to see wheter they have it or not. Nothing new to footballing world but to us it is. But I think most of us can identify which of the young players are clearly for the first team such as Estevao and Paez. We just need to learn this and not get emotional over these players.

None of the young players were harmed by this so why would you be upset.

This sort of thing will probably be even bigger when we get one or two clubs to our multiclub model.

I am not talking about the ethics of it here or wheter it is right. That is just what european football is at this moment.

17 minutes ago, evissy said:

None of the young players were harmed by this so why would you be upset.

Disagree with that, Amougou has had 6 months of no football with us, hindering his development. As so many of the 50 other players in the team. This is the very definition of harming someone's career for the possibility of a greedy board making a few bobs.

30 minutes ago, RMH said:

Disagree with that, Amougou has had 6 months of no football with us, hindering his development. As so many of the 50 other players in the team. This is the very definition of harming someone's career for the possibility of a greedy board making a few bobs.

Amogou is 19. He got what he got from the stint he was here. Talk to top players, learn from them, see the life of a top footballer. Now he is going to a club that will play him on a good level. I think that boy is very lucky.

Good luck to him. Will hopefully get the playing time he needs, and be happier in France. If he blossoms into a really good player, then the option is there.

That tier A list looks a little tight to me - Noni will make a sizable dent, but if limited to that list, it will take one of Trev, KDH, Guiu or Jackson to get us there.

The additional clubs sales are interesting as they create the room we need to sign a CB, but perhaps not in future Uefa years.

edit - Nuknku should be on that list also, and will close the gap.

Edited by PhilH930

2 hours ago, evissy said:

None of the young players were harmed by this so why would you be upset.

Well this is just a blatant lie.

Physically they may not be hurt but a lot of careers have been stalled.

D.D.Fofana

Chukwuemeka

Washington

Ugochukwu

Wiley

Anselmino

Guiu

Amougou

Kellyman

Jorgensen

KDH

Please explain how any of these players have developed better than they would have staying at their own clubs or going elsewhere.

48 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Well this is just a blatant lie.

Physically they may not be hurt but a lot of careers have been stalled.

D.D.Fofana

Chukwuemeka

Washington

Ugochukwu

Wiley

Anselmino

Guiu

Amougou

Kellyman

Jorgensen

KDH

Please explain how any of these players have developed better than they would have staying at their own clubs or going elsewhere.

What do you mean? They were lucky to be trained by Maresca and talk to Jackson! What else can they ask for in life?

11 minutes ago, RMH said:

What do you mean? They were lucky to be trained by Maresca and talk to Jackson! What else can they ask for in life?

Evissy will do the usual of either completely ignoring or replying on a tangent to avoid criticising anyone involved with the club.

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