1 minute ago, All Barco no bite said:

Loads of rumours the paperwork was signed before the deal was announced for this exact reason.

Well that's the only way this is going to happen then I guess ... though why delay the announcement (on both sides) if this was the combined objective ?

17th July or earlier would have to be the signing date.

I guess we'll find out on 1st September whether there is any truth in the rumours !

7 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

His medical was on 20th which if papers signed the same day gives us the time.

That wouldn't be enough time.

11 days in July

31 days in August

1 day in September

That's only 43 days ...

9 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Well that's the only way this is going to happen then I guess ... though why delay the announcement (on both sides) if this was the combined objective ?

17th July or earlier would have to be the signing date.

I guess we'll find out on 1st September whether there is any truth in the rumours !

smoke and mirrors, Blue Co masterclass once again

On 14/08/2026 at 22:04, Sexyfootball said:

Jackson ain't going to Villa if both sides need this not to be a swap.

It matters more for Villa than for us. Accounting for Rogers full fee allows them to exit the UEFA sanction agreement early, which allows them to actually take advantage of their increased revenues. Jackson is recorded as a book profit for us, regardless.

Maybe @terraloon can translate G3.5 and 3.7 into English for the rest of us?

The swap-deal rule is so dumb. It won't be long before an EU player or agent challenges it after a prospective move falls through because the clubs can't afford the FFP hit. Hard to see how it is not a restriction of trade by effect.

5 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

It matters more for Villa than for us. Accounting for Rogers full fee allows them to exit the UEFA sanction agreement early, which allows them to actually take advantage of their increased revenues. Jackson is recorded as a book profit for us, regardless.

Maybe @terraloon can translate G3.5 and 3.7 into English for the rest of us?

The swap-deal rule is so dumb. It won't be long before an EU player or agent challenges it after a prospective move falls through because the clubs can't afford the FFP hit. Hard to see how it is not a restriction of trade by effect.

Can I pass on that.

Normally I can get close to being able to work out what is being said but when I first read the guidelines I have to be honest I tried but gave up.

As you asked so nicely I tried again and, gave up. It’s gobbledygook!

One thing I will say is I am far from sure that you are right, or come to that wrong, when it comes to your comment re any potential issue re Jackson

Apparently Watkins has agreed to join Al Hilal.

Guess we'll now start to hear more on Jackson. Don't know about the implications of the Garnacho and Rogers deals, but I think we won't have any problem loaning Jackson there with a mandatory buy option for next summer if a transfer can't be made now because of those swap rules or whatever they are called.

Edited August 17Aug 17 by petre ispirescu

Just now, petre ispirescu said:

Apparently Watkins has agreed to join Al Hilal.

Guess we'll now start to hear more on Jackson. Don't know about the implications of the Garnacho and Rogers deals, but I think we won't have any problem loaning Jackson there with a mandatory buy option for next summer.

Can't loan two players to the same club

51 minutes ago, All Barco no bite said:

Can't loan two players to the same club

I have no idea how this works.

10 minutes ago, petre ispirescu said:

I have no idea how this works.

Only one player can be on loan from a specific parent club at any single time.

A club can register a maximum of four total loans from other Premier League clubs during a single season.

Teams cannot sign more than two loan players in a single transfer window from within the league.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s very good of the Saudi clubs to give several clubs millions and millions for their players, clearly doing us a favour.

But I just find their involvement so f**king irrelevant. It’s almost like Gateshead FC have suddenly offered 45m for Ollie Watkins. Their league is irrelevant, their clubs are irrelevant, they have no history or rivalry with any of the clubs over here. They just appeared and suddenly they’re taking players away from European football.

I mean look at Neymar. They took his twilight years away from us when he was only 31. It would have been far more interesting to see how he would’ve done at Napoli or even Newcastle?

Any offers yet?

42 minutes ago, just said:

Any offers yet?

Now being shopped to Napoli, those tight fisted Italians that would want a loan with an option to buy

https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/49659175/barcelona-move-julian-alvarez-pursuit-looking-other-options-source

Hello Barcelona?

Need a striker, you say?

6 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

https://www.espn.com.au/football/story/_/id/49659175/barcelona-move-julian-alvarez-pursuit-looking-other-options-source

Hello Barcelona?

Need a striker, you say?

We can only hope that this lives long in their memories:

On 18/08/2026 at 23:39, dansubrosa said:

Don’t get me wrong, it’s very good of the Saudi clubs to give several clubs millions and millions for their players, clearly doing us a favour.

But I just find their involvement so f**king irrelevant. It’s almost like Gateshead FC have suddenly offered 45m for Ollie Watkins. Their league is irrelevant, their clubs are irrelevant, they have no history or rivalry with any of the clubs over here. They just appeared and suddenly they’re taking players away from European football.

I mean look at Neymar. They took his twilight years away from us when he was only 31. It would have been far more interesting to see how he would’ve done at Napoli or even Newcastle?

I'm still confused as to why the players go there. I know its obscene money, but they are already on obscene money. If someone in Saudi offered to triple my salary I'd be there before sunset, but thays because trippling my salary would be life changing. It would still only bring me to what most of these guys earn in England per week, let alone per year. I get football careers are short, but they all earn enough to set generations of their family up for life

In the same way they move to USA or Turkey... Outside of EU tax law, do two years in these places and there are benefits or something. M finance friends told me about the loophole on why Wazza rooney went to the states all those years ago.

Turkey, well, they're so hard up for cash that they are offering residency and tax-free living if you move your money across to their banking system (Salah et all)...

Its pretty much all about tax avoidance.

I don’t see Napoli pulling up the money, if Villa sell Watkins and Konsa with other deals they will have plenty of money to play with and not need to worry about the Roger’s and Jackson deals being considered a swap that’s if they didn’t sign paper work before the announcement for that reason. Do we need the cash injection now or just lower our amortisation costs? There is talk of Tosin going there to cover Konsa could that deal be the swap or would both? Not sure how it works.

I still think we have more chance of getting the money we want from Villa than Napoli.

Edited August 20Aug 20 by C3blue

17 minutes ago, C3blue said:

I don’t see Napoli pulling up the money, if Villa sell Watkins and Konsa with other deals they will have plenty of money to play with and not need to worry about the Roger’s and Jackson deals being considered a swap that’s if they didn’t sign paper work before the announcement for that reason. Do we need the cash injection now or just lower our amortisation costs?

I still think we have more chance of getting the money we want from Villa than Napoli.

Villa's sales are largely related to their financial position. They need to get their financial house in order before they start spending. Their fundamental problem is marketing, they've neglected areas like commercial partners, revenue beyond prize money and player sales.

41 minutes ago, C3blue said:

I don’t see Napoli pulling up the money, if Villa sell Watkins and Konsa with other deals they will have plenty of money to play with and not need to worry about the Roger’s and Jackson deals being considered a swap that’s if they didn’t sign paper work before the announcement for that reason. Do we need the cash injection now or just lower our amortisation costs? There is talk of Tosin going there to cover Konsa could that deal be the swap or would both? Not sure how it works.

I still think we have more chance of getting the money we want from Villa than Napoli.

Why do you think we want to sell Jackson?

2 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Why do you think we want to sell Jackson?

2 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Why do you think we want to sell Jackson?

He’s part of the group training away from the players Alonso is preparing for the season.

From what I understand, not quite a bomb squad but definitely not involved against Fulham and in conversations with other clubs.

Himself, Tosin, Delap and Desasi.

Plus he’s sh*t.

Inter the latest Italian club to spend actual money with a PL club that isn't us (£30m for Curtis Jones from Liverpool).

Can see Napoli wanting Jackson on loan, us saying no, and then them happily spending £30-40m elsewhere ...

25 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Can see Napoli wanting Jackson on loan, us saying no, and then them happily spending £30-40m elsewhere ...

£30 million?

41 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Inter the latest Italian club to spend actual money with a PL club that isn't us (£30m for Curtis Jones from Liverpool).

Can see Napoli wanting Jackson on loan, us saying no, and then them happily spending £30-40m elsewhere ...

Does AC Milan signing Diego Moreira for £60m from BlueCo reserves count? Rumours of 40% sell on fee too.

Feel sorry for Strasbourg but Mudryk on loan might cheer them up

16 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

Does AC Milan signing Diego Moreira for £60m from BlueCo reserves count? Rumours of 40% sell on fee too.

Feel sorry for Strasbourg but Mudryk on loan might cheer them up

Yes not sure what's going on there.

An insane fee for a bang average winger like Moreira. Something fishy for sure !