7 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

With 17 PL games to go, we'll need 38 more points to match last season's 69 points, so something like Won 12 drawn 2 lost 3 will probably be required to get Top 4 or 5.

Does Rosenior survive if we miss out on Champions League ?

It might even be a tall ask just to match Poch's 63 points that scraped 6th. We'd need a minimum of going 9-5-3, or 10-2-5, and even that looks challenging when we're currently sitting at 8-7-6.

Tough job for anyone ...

I am pretty confident we won't come near last year's total. 60 points at best.

4 minutes ago, forbzy said:

I am pretty confident we won't come near last year's total. 60 points at best.

Indeed ... 56-60 would be my best guesstimate at this point ... and could even be much lower than that if we see a repeat of the end of the 22/23 season.

4 hours ago, venom2011 said:

Nothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, you've said here is even remotely nuanced, well-structured, informative, or factual. You've written multiple incoherent paragraphs which essentially just collapses into you shouting like an entitled fool.

Well I thought I was pretty bang on. As for patience, patience for what exactly? To see everything built by Abramovich over nearly two decades destroyed? No thanks. Come on then Venom, why do you think a sacked Hull manager has been hired to be head coach of Chelsea? Explain to me why two coaches have walked out on the club after finding the board impossible to work with. Where else in Europe do you see this sh*t happening? Why are none of the very top coaches looking to take on this job?

4 hours ago, venom2011 said:

Take a breath, back the team, back the manager, try to enjoy some football, and perhaps even exercise a bit of patience.

What manager? it's head coach, get it right mr "nothing you said is factual"

For somebody that pretends to be so well informed about the brilliance of this BlueCo project, I would at least expect you adopt their language too.

7 hours ago, bisright1 said:

Have you considered maybe taking a break from football for a bit?

This absolute constant negativity must be draining. It's certainly draining to read.

I'm backing Liam until there's a need to feel otherwise. It seems insane to just have such a default opinion of hate towards every aspect of your football club.

I don't need a break from football, the dogsh*t I see coming out of this club though? I think we all need a break from that. You can "back" Rosenior all you like, but the reality is that you're not backing him, you're backing the BlueCo project. I also don't hate my club, I hate Clear Lake and this BlueCo project, if you consider that to be what Chelsea is, then it's not me that hates the club, it's you.

29 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

But last season we eXceeDed EXpeCTaTiONs....

We were only fourth in the xExpectations table

9 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

I don't need a break from football, the dogsh*t I see coming out of this club though? I think we all need a break from that. You can "back" Rosenior all you like, but the reality is that you're not backing him, you're backing the BlueCo project. I also don't hate my club, I hate Clear Lake and this BlueCo project, if you consider that to be what Chelsea is, then it's not me that hates the club, it's you.

Fact is you dont think Blueco can improve us. Every decision they make is going to be the wrong one.

I hope things get better, I hope LR works out. Thinking on it today I actually think he might end up being an absolute car crash.

But Blueco aren't going anywhere, and when they do, it'll be another investment style group that'll take us over. This is what football is now.

1 hour ago, forbzy said:

At least during the Potter years, there was still some hope we would hire a better option afterwards. But now it is clear that will not be the case as they will stick to the strategy of yes men reporting to the SD's. Not to mention any credible candidates would have no interest in the job after seeing the circus in place.

Gary O'Neil future Chelsea head coach.

49 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

With 17 PL games to go, we'll need 38 more points to match last season's 69 points, so something like Won 12 drawn 2 lost 3 will probably be required to get Top 4 or 5.

Does Rosenior survive if we miss out on Champions League ?

It might even be a tall ask just to match Poch's 63 points that scraped 6th. We'd need a minimum of going 9-5-3, or 10-2-5, and even that looks challenging when we're currently sitting at 8-7-6.

Tough job for anyone ...

So we need title winning like form to even match last season's points total........we can forget about that then.

4 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Fact is you dont think Blueco can improve us. Every decision they make is going to be the wrong one.

I hope things get better, I hope LR works out. Thinking on it today I actually think he might end up being an absolute car crash.

But Blueco aren't going anywhere, and when they do, it'll be another investment style group that'll take us over. This is what football is now.

That a fact eh?

@Scott Harris I am very disappointed in you.

You only think Blueco cannot improve us? Thought I had educated you that they both Cannot and Will not improve us.

So we already get the "it was my fault" comments. Why cant these coaches play to the players strengths and leave it as that.

3 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

So we need title winning like form to even match last season's points total........we can forget about that then.

Yes, it basically equates to an 85 point season. Maybe not title-winning, but certainly in the title-race !

6 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Fact is you dont think Blueco can improve us. Every decision they make is going to be the wrong one.

I hope things get better, I hope LR works out. Thinking on it today I actually think he might end up being an absolute car crash.

But Blueco aren't going anywhere, and when they do, it'll be another investment style group that'll take us over. This is what football is now.

So far, the evidence is that not only will they not improve us, they have actually taken the club backwards.

The project and "model" that they have imposed throughout the club isn't designed to take us back to where we were when the club was sold. It doesn't have to be like this, they want us to be Brighton, and THAT'S not going to improve the club. .

11 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

But Blueco aren't going anywhere, and when they do, it'll be another investment style group that'll take us over. This is what football is now.

Yes ... you even get banned these days for jamming your fingers up an opponent's arse ...

Game's gone ...

7 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

So far, the evidence is that not only will they not improve us, they have actually taken the club backwards.

The project and "model" that they have imposed throughout the club isn't designed to take us back to where we were when the club was sold. It doesn't have to be like this, they want us to be Brighton, and THAT'S not going to improve the club. .

For the life of me I can't see how they can think the value of the club has increased, when they overpaid to start with and all they've done is take us backwards ...

It all just smacks of an exercise in money laundering so far.

If you want to double your money in 10 years, which seems to be their stated objective, this seems like a ridiculously hard way to try and do it ... especially when you could probably simply do that with 7-8 % compound interest at a medium to low level of risk profile in the stock market.

Edited January 15Jan 15 by Sexyfootball

54 minutes ago, El regreso said:

We looked better under Maresca against Arsenal

I'm surprised so many people were keen on getting rid of Maresca when there was no guarantee the replacement would be any better, especially with our board.

Our chances of getting top 4 have arguably went down now with the change

13 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

For the life of me I can't see how they can think the value of the club has increased, when they overpaid to start with and all they've done is take us backwards ...

It all just smacks of an exercise in money laundering so far.

If you want to double your money in 10 years, which seems to be their stated objective, this seems like a ridiculously hard way to try and do it ... especially when you could probably simply do that with 7-8 % compound interest at a medium to low level of risk profile in the stock market.

Well I've asked our resident expert Venom the question ' how do you think Clearlake will make a profit from their investment in Chelsea for their investors?

Days later he hasn't replied. He's too busy pontificating all over the place !!

Todd's claim that we are worth more than the sum they paid for us eas because " the trend is out friend" . It's like owning a central London property, it just increases in value all the time , !!

12 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Well I've asked our resident expert Venom the question ' how do you think Clearlake will make a profit from their investment in Chelsea for their investors?

Days later he hasn't replied. He's too busy pontificating all over the place !!

Todd's claim that we are worth more than the sum they paid for us eas because " the trend is out friend" . It's like owning a central London property, it just increases in value all the time , !!

Probably still awaiting his approved response from Clearlake HQ !

55 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

So we already get the "it was my fault" comments. Why cant these coaches play to the players strengths and leave it as that.

It really can't be that they're all tinkering lunatics. Someone is setting the lineups and style of play, and it isn't the head coach.

9 minutes ago, yaz said:

Someone is setting the line ups and style of play, and it isn't the head coach.

Stuck my head back in here after a while to complain about this and Im not disappointed to find that actually the majority seem to agree.

Extremely underwhelming bordering on embarrassing appointment.

We, like United have accepted mid to upper mid table mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Gary O'Neil future Chelsea head coach.

at least hes managed in the PL,

AS FOR WHERE WE FINISH, 9TH-12TH IS MY PREDICTION

6 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Indeed ... 56-60 would be my best guesstimate at this point ... and could even be much lower than that if we see a repeat of the end of the 22/23 season.

Yes. I suspect we would need to go on a run of 5-6 wins in a row like we did to end our last 2 seasons, to have any chance of getting close to European places. Maybe that will happen again but it feels less likely. I think somebody had posted that Rosenior has never won more than 3 consecutive games as a manager.

3 hours ago, ItsEssexRob said:

Stuck my head back in here after a while to complain about this and Im not disappointed to find that actually the majority seem to agree.

Extremely underwhelming bordering on embarrassing appointment.

We, like United have accepted mid to upper mid table mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

Eh United could easily appoint a Xavi or a Fabregas next season, we could've just went the caretaker route like them

5 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

For the life of me I can't see how they can think the value of the club has increased, when they overpaid to start with and all they've done is take us backwards ...

It all just smacks of an exercise in money laundering so far.

If you want to double your money in 10 years, which seems to be their stated objective, this seems like a ridiculously hard way to try and do it ... especially when you could probably simply do that with 7-8 % compound interest at a medium to low level of risk profile in the stock market.

Because it doesn't matter what you or anyone real thinks the value of the club is, it matters what JP Morgan and other investment banks agree on what the 'value' of the club is so that they can loan more money to Clearlake, or Boehly, or Wyss or Walter etc.

All that matters is that an investment bank agrees to the mutual delusion. If Clearlake merely claims the number goes up, and JP Morgan agrees the number went up, then both can claim that, in fact, the number went up. We are talking about pretend money here, not profit or loss or anything about business in the traditional sense.

4 minutes ago, SydneyChelsea said:

Because it doesn't matter what you or anyone real thinks the value of the club is, it matters what JP Morgan and other investment banks agree on what the 'value' of the club is so that they can loan more money to Clearlake, or Boehly, or Wyss or Walter etc.

All that matters is that an investment bank agrees to the mutual delusion. If Clearlake merely claims the number goes up, and JP Morgan agrees the number went up, then both can claim that, in fact, the number went up. We are talking about pretend money here, not profit or loss or anything about business in the traditional sense.

What a sad state of affairs we are in ...

6 hours ago, bisright1 said:

Fact is you dont think Blueco can improve us. Every decision they make is going to be the wrong one.

I hope things get better, I hope LR works out. Thinking on it today I actually think he might end up being an absolute car crash.

But Blueco aren't going anywhere, and when they do, it'll be another investment style group that'll take us over. This is what football is now.

Perhaps.

I do find it amusing though that we constantly ridicule Tottenham for their lack of credible success and their wonderful ability to relentlessly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on so many occasions. We've all witnessed the lambasting Daniel Levy has received from fans and the media.

However, step away from their onfield circus, and as an organisation they are light years ahead of us. Levy remained thick skinned and tight lipped and the new owners have similarly kept their own counsel so far. There is a bit of noise around this SD of theirs but nothing like the clownfest we see acted out with ours. They have a stadium that is the envy of Europe and have not been backwards in providing funds for their managers providing its within the organisation's means.

Surely there is another model that can marry sensible business management with sporting endeavour, and even if this is ultimately an illusion why do us and the Glazers have to be the sitcom soap opera every bloody time.