Youth can be tricky, sometimes it works somewhere else completely. Just that pressure of the big club can really get to a player and they seem to flourish somewhere else. Matic was a strange one it's almost as if he changed completely and someone else took control of his brain. He was nothing like that at all when he was here, I do recall watching Matic in action a while ago and he never looked special. Now he looks on his way to be world class...

I think you're right, if a player is sold can be like a new start and can do wonders. I guarantee well have another matic/sturridge situation soon enough all these players aren't gonna break through so some will be sold, maybe just get rid of em all now with long buy back options, the future of loaning...

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/3/27/5554528/josh-mceachran-chelsea-future

 

Apparently he still wants to make it at Chelsea:

 

Chelsea is a top club, so I’m not just going to walk into a team full of world-class players... I’m a Wigan player at the moment but I’m still contracted to Chelsea and have got another two-and-a-half years left. At the end of the day I want to play for Chelsea. I still think that’s a realistic ambition.

Bad season for Josh... Been disrupted by injuries and Zola leaving Watford.

 

Next season is a key season for him because 22 is the age Michael Emenalo said the club expects players to be looking to make the step up into the first team squad. 

If he wants to make it, then he needs to work f**king hard. Take a page out of Lampard's book. First into the training ground. Last out. No f**king about.

Youth can be tricky, sometimes it works somewhere else completely. Just that pressure of the big club can really get to a player and they seem to flourish somewhere else. Matic was a strange one it's almost as if he changed completely and someone else took control of his brain. He was nothing like that at all when he was here, I do recall watching Matic in action a while ago and he never looked special. Now he looks on his way to be world class...

I dissagree. When Matic was on loan at Vitesse in the 2010 season he showed plenty of times that he was capable of dominating the midfield.

Alright, he also had some dissapointing performances, but he was 4 years younger at the time. 

 

I saw his potential back then, along with plenty of people who watch the Eredivisie.

Of course it's always tricky to rate players based on their games in the Eredivisie, but isn't that what our scouts are for?

Anyway I'm glad we have him back!

Back to Mceachran. I always find him a charming player. A very good passer and he looks very intelligent.

If he doesn't make it in Chelsea im sure he will make it somewhere else.

 

His intellegence and passing would make him great in a deeper role, he is also pretty quick.

Too bad he has no physical ability whatsoever. But considering he is still young, he could get more physical and he could work on his tackeling.

 

 

This shows what he can do: 

i would hardly describe Josh Mceachran as quick.

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/8/17/6006089/josh-mceachran-chelsea-vitesse-loan

Not confirmed on the Chelsea site yet but Josh looks like he's the latest person to join Vitesse on loan.

I think another league will do him more good than playing in the Championship.

Good for him to join a foreign league but I think his Chelsea days are numbered.

Credit to him for going out of his comfort zone with a different country, language and football culture. Even if it doesn't salvage his Chelsea career, it should do him some good.

He really should leave and try to get somewhere else, shame to see him move about so much.

why loan players with no future at the club? just sell them...all those loanees...

why loan players with no future at the club? just sell them...all those loanees...

Because nobody wants to buy them

 

why loan players with no future at the club? just sell them...all those loanees...

 

I imagine it comes down to a question of a cost-benefit analysis. Considering he has done next to nothing, his value on the open market is peanuts. However, by loaning him over to a club like Vitesse Arnhem, he can help them out. Chelsea then potentially gets first chance to sign (and then loan back) some of the top VA prospects.

Plus if he impresses at VA, his value increases, a chance he wont get here not to mention the club will likely get a loan fee as well a the loaned out players wages off the books.  Financially, there's a lot of positives for loaning out players who wont contribute to your first team that season

Plus if he impresses at VA, his value increases, a chance he wont get here not to mention the club will likely get a loan fee as well a the loaned out players wages off the books.  Financially, there's a lot of positives for loaning out players who wont contribute to your first team that season

That is true.  A lot of good reasons to keep him around.

Now confirmed on the website. Josh has joined Vitesse on loan. 

Because nobody wants to buy them

 

Im guessing more specifically, no one will offer them the same wages.

The reason the English international team is so bad, is because of players like josh wasting away on the big clubs benches because the smaller clubs can't afford him. It's like the big clubs find the English talent and sign them just so the other clubs can't have them.

Someone on Twitter has retweeted every single post Josh McEachran has made announcing that he is about to go to Nando's. There are dozens of them, which I found hilarious for some reason...

"April has been a good month for the Chelsea midfielder. There's a spring in his step and a snap in his pass. The former wonderkid isn't just getting a start for Vitesse Arnhem, he's bossing games. McEachran's senior career is finally on the brink of taking off.

It all began against Excelsior. With Marko Vejnovic suspended, Vitesse coach Peter Bosz (some in Cobham would say reluctantly) handed McEachran a rare start at the base of his midfield. The 22 year-old looked a natural, helping his loan club to a crucial 3-1 away win.

Last week against FC Dordrecht, suspension again came to McEachran's aid. This time it was Davy Propper who was banned. McEachran kept his place and produced his best performance in the Eredivisie - perhaps the best of his senior career. Again, as the anchor in midfield, McEachran dominated possession, producing Vitesse's best moments with that wand of a left foot of his. Vitesse finished comfortable 3-0 winners, with fans going away singing the Englishman's name.

"He needed time to adjust, so we gave it to him," argued Bosz. "He was not fit when he arrived, but before the winter (break) we saw progression. For the last three months he's been doing great."

However, on Saturday, Bosz, with Propper and Vejnovic available, dropped McEachran to the bench. The move didn't work, with ADO Den Haag defeating Vitesse 1-0. Bosz relented in the second-half, hauling off Vejnovic for McEachran. But it wasn't enough to change the game's course.

Next week it's Feyenoord and there's pressure on the stubborn Bosz to recall McEachran to his starting XI. It's fifth versus third, with Vitesse trailing Feyenoord by just five points. It could be the biggest game of McEachran's career - if Bosz goes with form over reputation.

"He needs to improve his defensive play, he must be stronger in the duels," insists the coach.

Whatever happens, McEachran's sudden impact has convinced Vitesse to seek a loan extension for next season. Propper and Vejnovic are expected to leave, with PSV Eindhoven and Ajax circling, and technical chief Mohammed Allach is eager for McEachran to stay. It was Allach who personally drove the McEachran deal, having made regular trips to England last season to watch him in action for Watford and Wigan Athletic.

Fans of McEachran will be hoping this is no false dawn. Five years ago it was McEachran, not Ross Barkley, who had England coaching staff excited as he inspired an U17 European Championship triumph. Just weeks later, McEachran was making his Chelsea debut in the Champions League against MSK Zilina.

Under Carlo Ancelotti, the teenager would make five more Champions League appearances, including two starts, and feature in 11 Premier League games, before the Italian was sacked in 2011.

Since then, McEachran's career has meandered along, bouncing from one loan move to another without ever settling down.

This season in Arnhem encapsulates that. Arriving to much fanfare, injury and a reluctant manager has limited McEachran to a bit-part role. Only the recent suspensions to Propper and Vejnovic have forced Bosz's hand. The coach is yet to be convinced.

"Can he reach the top? That's hard to say. He will certainly be a player at a good level. The summit? That's something else."

Speaking just last month, Ray Wilkins, who worked with McEachran at Chelsea, says his left foot was the best he's seen in a young player, likening the Blues prospect to Arsenal legend Liam Brady. But he also questioned whether McEachran had the ruthless streak needed to make the most of his talent.

This time next season, McEachran will be 23 and entering the final weeks of his Chelsea contract. In the games he's played, he's proved he's comfortable at Eredivisie level. But if Vitesse ask him back, can he be confident of the support of Bosz? Indeed, does he have it in him to demand it?

As Bosz has stated, McEachran has the talent to make a very good living out of the game. Whether he proves his Vitesse coach wrong and reaches the game's "summit", will be entirely up to him."

Good to hear but it's clear he aint got a future here.

Hope he finds a club he will play at.

I remember on another messageboard, some CFC fans were calling for McEachran to start over Lampard. I know, the horrors.

Signing for Brentford, how very disappointing.

But a fair reflection of how he's developed unfortunately.