If we get Champions League football and he agreed to come, do people think we should drop 70m+ on Griezmann? Imagine a front 3 of Hazard, Griezmann & Costa...

I'd love him here but then so would all the top clubs in Europe.

The only way I see him here is if we let Costa go in the other direction which I'm not so keen on since he's been crucial so far this season.

Suppose it all depends on how much he would cost and who else is in for him. The likes of Barca, Madrid, United, City can all offer far more than we can.

 

Maybe they would sell Griezmann if Costa went the opposite way the following season after their transfer ban... But that would leave them with a rather large goal scoring hole in their team for a year.

Edited November 4, 20169 yr by rtwelch

5 hours ago, rtwelch said:

Maybe they would sell Griezmann if Costa went the opposite way the following season after their transfer ban... But that would leave them with a rather large goal scoring hole in their team for a year.

Ahhemmm Fernando Torres 

11 hours ago, big blue said:

Ahhemmm Fernando Torres 

Just checked his record for them: 16 in 57 games (no doubt quite a few of them were as a sub).

So he's improved since his time at AC Milan (1 goal in ten).

And he's a lot better than when he was with us, when he managed a pitiful 20 in 110.

I still find him painful to watch. It seems like his spell at Liverpool (65 in 102) was a freak run he didn't have the talent to sustain.

1 hour ago, Backbiter said:

It seems like his spell at Liverpool (65 in 102) was a freak run he didn't have the talent to sustain.

He had the talent, but he lost a lot of pace just before he joined us. I can only guess due to injury. And that was a key part of his game and he predicated on it. And from then on he had difficulties adjusting, price tag played in his mind I guess, and just couldn't live up to it. 

Can't really say he didn't have the talent, he was great at Athletico in the first spell and played great for Liverpool.

21 hours ago, Chelsbear said:

I'd love him here but then so would all the top clubs in Europe.

The only way I see him here is if we let Costa go in the other direction which I'm not so keen on since he's been crucial so far this season.

Suppose it all depends on how much he would cost and who else is in for him. The likes of Barca, Madrid, United, City can all offer far more than we can.

 

There will be no brainer if it comes to that, next season costa is 1 year older, into his thirties.. how much longer can he play at top level? not much..

19 hours ago, Backbiter said:

Just checked his record for them: 16 in 57 games (no doubt quite a few of them were as a sub).

So he's improved since his time at AC Milan (1 goal in ten).

And he's a lot better than when he was with us, when he managed a pitiful 20 in 110.

I still find him painful to watch. It seems like his spell at Liverpool (65 in 102) was a freak run he didn't have the talent to sustain.

 

18 hours ago, Saru said:

He had the talent, but he lost a lot of pace just before he joined us. I can only guess due to injury. And that was a key part of his game and he predicated on it. And from then on he had difficulties adjusting, price tag played in his mind I guess, and just couldn't live up to it. 

Can't really say he didn't have the talent, he was great at Athletico in the first spell and played great for Liverpool.

Torres at his peak was basically a poacher who used his extreme pace, movement and finishing ability to devastating effect.

By the time he joined Chelsea though, he was obviously a shadow of his former self. Our system didn't really suit him, but injury robbed him of a lot of his pace and he lost a lot of self-confidence too, so his finishing went down the drain.

These days, he's more of a second/all-round striker than the predatory poacher he originally was. 

As I've said in the past, when you think about it his career is a lot like Michael Owen's. Both were originally ace poachers who had to convert into a more all-round role after injuries blunted their pace. 

I agree. He didn't have the all-round ability to adapt once he lost his pace. And as you say, when he lost his confidence as well, h didn have a lot to offer.

Torres was weird, people say he lost his pace but then he'd magically have it back for a game or two. I just don't get how that even happens.

On ?05?/?11?/?2016 at 11:10, Backbiter said:

 

I still find him painful to watch. It seems like his spell at Liverpool (65 in 102) was a freak run he didn't have the talent to sustain.

Nah wasn't a freak run because he was banging them in for Atletico for years from when he was a teenager until he moved to Liverpool. (He even because Atletico's youngest ever captain during that). Then he was also banging them in for the national side too.

It was his nagging injuries and Liverpool rushing him back that took away that burst that left so many defenders for dead. Like Owen he relied heavily on his speed but when that goes you are left with a player who has little to offer.

The injury coupled with the inability to live up to the most expensive striker in English football crippled him to the point he was missing open goals. From about 18 till 26 he was a fantastic striker.

Seems like United are his destination.

 

I really wanted us to sign him too.

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"I always ask Paul Pogba about Manchester United," Griezmann told Sky in Germany. "I think they are a huge club with a really good infrastructure.

Translation : Paul's told me how much he's on and that the guy in charge of the purse strings is a bit of a transfer muppet desperate to be adored by the fans so I'll get me some of that while it's still going.

Griezmann is a utd fan so nothing surprises me there. I do see him going when simeone leaves though. I would much prefer us go in for lewandowski, but we don't particularly need another striker if costa stays and batman too. I think city may hit the jackpot with that jesus kid they will have in January; looks a really top prospect if he can cut in the prem. 

Would be a major coup for United, he's clearly one of the best forwards in football just now.

5 hours ago, Chelsbear said:

Would be a major coup for United, he's clearly one of the best forwards in football just now.

As man united have proved, spending ludicrous amounts doesn't necessarily make you any good.

Having said that, he would fit in perfectly here.

16 hours ago, Jackbuchanan said:

As man united have proved, spending ludicrous amounts doesn't necessarily make you any good.

Having said that, he would fit in perfectly here.

It doesn't but it helps especially if you are able to bring in a superstar every window which is what they are aiming for.

Even after Pogba, Bailley and Zlatan you still knew they required another 4 or 5 big players to realistically challenge for the title. The squad they have is jam packed full of average players with a handful of quality ones.

I think it will take till next summer before we see them really taking shape.

On 11/9/2016 at 22:45, startedwithglenn said:

Translation : Paul's told me how much he's on and that the guy in charge of the purse strings is a bit of a transfer muppet desperate to be adored by the fans so I'll get me some of that while it's still going.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10656205/manchester-united-players-are-best-paid-football-team-ahead-of-barcelona-says-survey

On 14 November 2016 at 08:56, startedwithglenn said:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10656205/manchester-united-players-are-best-paid-football-team-ahead-of-barcelona-says-survey

Makes it funnier that they're underachieving.

Griezmann would be great, but I think Dybala would be even better:

Like Griezmann, Dybala can be used in Pedros/Willians position and as a backup for Costa. With Costa starting whenever he is fit, we are in more need of a creative force to play alongside him, instead of another great goal poacher. I also think that it would be easier to buy Dybala from Juventus, we have several players they would be interessted in (Oscar, Fabregas and Willian), some of them could be direct replacement. Their Pogba sale opened up for more star players to leave.

Dybala is a stud and we should have got him before he went to juve. I think he had his mind set on juve though. 

Edited November 28, 20169 yr by enigma

Both would be great, but I'd prefer Griezmann. His link up play is one of the best around, he is quick and a massive goal threat. Dybala is a better dribbler and better at playing the final ball, but we already have a simliar player in Hazard. Also, being used to Simeones tactics, the pressing and hard work required of our front 3 wouldn't be a problem for him.

I think it would be harder to sign Dybala.

1 minute ago, rtwelch said:

I think it would be harder to sign Dybala.

Wrll considering juve held out 89 mil for pogba, dybala will cost almost as much I would say. replacements for him would be scarce so unlikely it'll happen. him on the right cutting in and hazard on left would be nice. 

47 minutes ago, enigma said:

Wrll considering juve held out 89 mil for pogba, dybala will cost almost as much I would say. replacements for him would be scarce so unlikely it'll happen. him on the right cutting in and hazard on left would be nice. 

Griezmann would give us more balance, and as of now, is the better player.