5 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

I think the value of shirt sales has been established as being very little in terms of revenue...

Its still business regardless. Also you cant underestimate shirt sales, some players like Rodriguez for RM got millions as soon as he signed and made back like half the fee that he cost.

 

Not to mention we are the 4th highest shirt selling club in the world behind only Barca, Real and Bayern, selling 1.65million. Adding a name like Aubamayeng to that will certainly bring in more

1 minute ago, JJP said:

Its still business regardless. Also you cant underestimate shirt sales, some players like Rodriguez for RM got millions as soon as he signed and made back like half the fee that he cost.

 

Not to mention we are the 4th highest shirt selling club in the world behind only Barca, Real and Bayern, selling 1.65million. Adding a name like Aubamayeng to that will certainly bring in more

I think you really need to see the excellent article written on this forum by a member that puts shirt sales in prospective...

4 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

I think you really need to see the excellent article written on this forum by a member that puts shirt sales in prospective...

Is there a link to it? I'd actually like to have a read of it

I'm afraid modern football is a business and not a simple game for the naive...

This is ridiculous. If you're an elite club, you don't sign a player because of resale value ffs. Did Bayern sign Alonso 2-3 years ago because of his great resale value? You sign players to win you trophies which translates to more revenue generated and your brand growing bigger. Resale fee is a pin drop in the ocean compared to years of success.

Its still business regardless. Also you cant underestimate shirt sales, some players like Rodriguez for RM got millions as soon as he signed and made back like half the fee that he cost.
 
Not to mention we are the 4th highest shirt selling club in the world behind only Barca, Real and Bayern, selling 1.65million. Adding a name like Aubamayeng to that will certainly bring in more

90% of the income from shirt sales goes to Nike/Adidas. Which is why they pay a fixed fee to the clubs yearly.

6 minutes ago, JJP said:

Its still business regardless. Also you cant underestimate shirt sales, some players like Rodriguez for RM got millions as soon as he signed and made back like half the fee that he cost.

This long lasting myth is just that, a myth. It is utterly false. I think you'd find it interesting to gen up on the way shirt sales work.

10 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

This is ridiculous. If you're an elite club, you don't sign a player because of resale value ffs. Did Bayern sign Alonso 2-3 years ago because of his great resale value? You sign players to win you trophies which translates to more revenue generated and your brand growing bigger. Resale fee is a pin drop in the ocean compared to years of success.

Buying any player is a risk to benefit calculation and part of that process is to look at adverse eventualities such as a player not adapting to a new league and needing to be moved on...

Edited June 16, 20179 yr by doctorblue

2 hours ago, doctorblue said:

I'm afraid modern football is a business and not a simple game for the naive...

I'm not being naive. If the club thought like you do, we would never have signed someone like Drogba. Resale value isn't something the club is overly concerned with and they never have been. If they were, then they would have sold a lot of our top players at their peak.

10 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

90% of the income from shirt sales goes to Nike/Adidas. Which is why they pay a fixed fee to the clubs yearly.

Ahh I see, i didnt know that

6 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

Buying any player is a risk to benefit calculation and part of that process is to look at adverse eventualities such as a player not adapting to a new league and needing to be moved on...

Before Luiz to PSG, we had never gotten any decent resale value for any player in the Roman era. Not even Robben. Yet we kept signing players and were successful.

I'm sure resale value is a factor considered in signing players but it's definitely not a major factor. You'll handicap yourself a lot if you sign players with that being one of the main reasons. Unless you have plans of being a feeder club.

24 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

This is ridiculous. If you're an elite club, you don't sign a player because of resale value ffs. Did Bayern sign Alonso 2-3 years ago because of his great resale value? You sign players to win you trophies which translates to more revenue generated and your brand growing bigger. Resale fee is a pin drop in the ocean compared to years of success.

Tbf Alonso only cost Bayern £8m

For me resale value is insurance if you don't win trophies.

Edited June 16, 20179 yr by the special one

Just now, the special one said:

Tbf Alonso only cost Bayern £8m

You beat me to it...

14 minutes ago, the special one said:

Tbf Alonso only cost Bayern £8m

For me resale value is insurance if you don't win trophies.

Even if he'd cost them £30m at the time, I'm sure they wouldn't have cared one bit if they didn't get a penny back from reselling (seeing as he retired) if it meant he'd contribute a lot to the 3 titles won in those 3 years.

15 minutes ago, the special one said:

For me resale value is insurance if you don't win trophies.

After a few trophyless seasons the value of players is likely to go down. Not much of an insurance.

21 minutes ago, Maksimov said:

After a few trophyless seasons the value of players is likely to go down. Not much of an insurance.

I happen to think player value can fluctuate regardless of team performance, but I don't see the point of arguing a case against signing Auba - even if taking a €70m punt on a soon to be 28yr old from the Bundesliga doesn't make sound financial sense I'd be happy to have him here (along with Lukaku).

Edited June 16, 20179 yr by the special one

57 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

Even if he'd cost them £30m at the time, I'm sure they wouldn't have cared one bit if they didn't get a penny back from reselling (seeing as he retired) if it meant he'd contribute a lot to the 3 titles won in those 3 years.

I doubt Bayern would have paid 30m for Alonso. Those 3 titles were won whatever.

So the headline on sky sports has him saying he wants to play for Klopp and Liverpool then? 

34 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

So the headline on sky sports has him saying he wants to play for Klopp and Liverpool then? 

Expect to see a skybet special on odds on that move soon then.

Tbf he wold turn that Liverpool team into contenders, would still need 2 CBs a LB and a GK but still wold be Scary in Klopps Liverpool 

3 hours ago, PedroMendez said:

Tbf he wold turn that Liverpool team into contenders, would still need 2 CBs a LB and a GK but still wold be Scary in Klopps Liverpool 

Wouldn't surprise me if Klopp and his cronies have been tapping Aubmeyang up too.

He would be a brilliant signing for them, i hope it's bullsh*t to be honest.

I think he already stated he wanted to be in Real Madrid or another big club. I don't think it's Liverpool.

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 02:00, Tibbers said:

I think he already stated he wanted to be in Real Madrid or another big club. I don't think it's Liverpool.

Iirc he said that he promised his granddad something about going to RM

9 hours ago, Deino said:

Iirc he said that he promised his granddad something about going to RM

They apparently have nice stadium tours there.

Their CEO is inviting bids. Surprised we aren't interested. He's world class IMO.