1 hour ago, big blue said:

Baba hasn't played for over a year, He wasnt exactly great before the injury, so I don't know why you want to see him in the squad over alonso. 

Alonso is still a good player. Emerson has done great so far, but it is still early days. 

After struggling in that position for years, its nice to have good but different options.

I don’t necessarily want to sell Alonso, but Emerson’s emergence has certainly given us the ability to say yes to a large sum, if offered.

I agree, Baba hasn’t played in awhile, but to your point about him not being great before the injury—that was in a back 4.  I think he would do very well as a wing back.

Of course, this is all hypothetical in the instance that Conte sticks around and we remain with a 3-5-2/3-4-3.

5 hours ago, Argo said:

That"s not true.

Why? He won’t drop Moses, when attack after attack breaks down with him, the only reason he’s playing Emerson, was due to Alonso’s suspension. 

Edited April 30, 20188 yr by Floyd25

Emerson should not be dropped, you keep players in the team who are on form. Well with Moses and Baka I'm not sure what's going on, maybe they are in form in some people's minds.

36 minutes ago, Floyd25 said:

Why? He won’t drop Moses, when attack after attack breaks down with him, the only reason he’s playing Emerson, was due to Alonso’s suspension. 

Because the replacement is even worse.

20 minutes ago, Argo said:

Because the replacement is even worse.

Maybe, I haven’t been impressed with either Zappa or Moses this season, shame because I do like Moses. But this is why you could make a case for Sterling, couldn’t be much worse and at least has youthful exuberance, he is in the first team squad. My point still stands on Alonso and I don’t know why he persists with Baka, Drinkwater is surely the better option.

On 24/04/2018 at 13:38, RIP Mourinho said:

He shouldn't. Emerson is far superior in every regard except for set pieces. 

But he still will.

Cant wait for the geniuses who were claiming -

1. Whats the use of rotating? All the bench players are crap (DD, Zappa, Palmeiri)

2. Personal opinions and ego does not affect the decision making - so basically Conte used to see palmeiri in training every day, and yet decided to play alonso every match even when the guy looked completely out of breath (I like alonso, but the amount of time he has played, even alaba would have looked crap). So its one of the 2 things - personal opinions do matter or conte is an incompetent manager.

1 hour ago, didierforever said:

2. Personal opinions and ego does not affect the decision making - so basically Conte used to see palmeiri in training every day, and yet decided to play alonso every match even when the guy looked completely out of breath (I like alonso, but the amount of time he has played, even alaba would have looked crap). So its one of the 2 things - personal opinions do matter or conte is an incompetent manager.

You know he was only signed in Jan right? And was signed after an injury kept him out for a long time right? And that he had only made 2 appearances for Roma this season right?

So maybe in Contes personal opinion Emerson was still lacking fitness after his injury

Or the other one I guess.

13 hours ago, Argo said:

That"s not true.

 

2 hours ago, Stim said:

You know he was only signed in Jan right? And was signed after an injury kept him out for a long time right? And that he had only made 2 appearances for Roma this season right?

So maybe in Contes personal opinion Emerson was still lacking fitness after his injury

Or the other one I guess.

See, both of you have missed the point that someone who refers to our manager as "that bald c**t" is convinced that top football managers will make critical decisions about who to play and, by definition, what tactics to use based solely on how much he likes the player in question's instagram, or if that player consistently tells the manager a funny joke, or buy's him a pint down the Goose.

OBVIOUSLY, Conte, and all Chelsea managers before him decide their strategy to succeed based purely on personal like or dislike, not a player's performance in training, the possible alternatives, the opposition, how fir or otherwise that player might be or a multitude of other factors that anyone with experience of football would be aware of.

Apparently, this dullard and others  believe that this only applies to Chelsea managers, and then only Chelsea managers who they don't  like, or who don't pick the players they like best because they have a Panini sticker of them.  f**king simplistic children!

Hmmm. Checked back and apparently he was in Roma's match day squad since the 5th of november. He was signed by us on the 30th Jan which means he was "medically fit" for about 3 whole months. Got his first PL start against Burnley on 19th April (which was 5 and a half months after being medically fit and 2 and a half months after signing for us). 

You would think when the player is passed fit by the medical staff, he is actually fit. And 5 and a half months is actually quite a long time. 

Only thing left for us to do then was make him "match fit" which well... you can only get by actually playing matches. 

So again, dont understand why he was not being rotated with alonso in march or when we had those terrible fixtures of playing barca, united, city, barca. Might have come a little handy in keeping players fresh. Or maybe he wanted to prove a point.... because nothing in palmeiri's performances has looked like he needed 2 and a half months to get his PL start.

 

But then (according to a certain few imbecilic morons), how can any of us doubt anything that the great Conte does. Has never put a foot wrong at all in his life. Perfect team selections, perfect tactics, perfect substitutes and the timing of substitution. Its only the players, the board, the opposition manager, the opposition players, the stewards, the hot-dog sellers and pretty much everyone else who is wrong.. Conte - Never, no. simply cant be.

Edited April 30, 20188 yr by didierforever

58 minutes ago, didierforever said:

Hmmm. Checked back and apparently he was in Roma's match day squad since the 5th of november. He was signed by us on the 30th Jan which means he was "medically fit" for about 3 whole months. Got his first PL start against Burnley on 19th April (which was 5 and a half months after being medically fit and 2 and a half months after signing for us). 

You would think when the player is passed fit by the medical staff, he is actually fit. And 5 and a half months is actually quite a long time. 

Only thing left for us to do then was make him "match fit" which well... you can only get by actually playing matches. 

So again, dont understand why he was not being rotated with alonso in march or when we had those terrible fixtures of playing barca, united, city, barca. Might have come a little handy in keeping players fresh. Or maybe he wanted to prove a point.... because nothing in palmeiri's performances has looked like he needed 2 and a half months to get his PL start.

 

But then (according to a certain few imbecilic morons), how can any of us doubt anything that the great Conte does. Has never put a foot wrong at all in his life. Perfect team selections, perfect tactics, perfect substitutes and the timing of substitution. Its only the players, the board, the opposition manager, the opposition players, the stewards, the hot-dog sellers and pretty much everyone else who is wrong.. Conte - Never, no. simply cant be.

Your language is out of line buddy.

Since you seem to be so knowledgeable you ought to apply for the position. 

8 minutes ago, Gentian said:

Your language is out of line buddy.

Since you seem to be so knowledgeable you ought to apply for the position. 

Hmmm. So the economists who predict the exact impact of a particular bill/law being passed, ought to apply for the position of presidency since they seem to know so much (and before you extrapolate this in some other way - this was just a mere example)

By your logic, the only way a forum can work is if everyone agrees to whatever is happening thinking that is the best course of action. anyone daring to critisize the board/manager/player can be shot down with a "if you seem to know this much why dont you become a boardmember/manager/player". WOuld not really be a forum to discuss then, would it.

9 hours ago, Argo said:

Because the replacement is even worse.

I disagree, there have been parts of the season Zappa has been in better form than Moses and wasn't even making the bench after a good game. Things like this can hit players hard, one good game and then the next your lucky to make the bench, the problem with Moses is he can have as many sh*t games as he likes and he will still play. You could even play Dave there, there's the option of a back 4 and taking Moses out the equation full stop. 

1 hour ago, Gentian said:

Your language is out of line buddy.

Since you seem to be so knowledgeable you ought to apply for the position. 

He's not knowledgeable, he's a know-nothing f**kwit who googles everything that Sky pundits don't tell him.  No experience of real football and a snide little f**k to boot.

Awww. the daily angry guy routine. Never stops being funny. Would love if the rant changed a bit. But that would be hard for a simpleton I guess.

9 hours ago, Stim said:

So maybe in Contes personal opinion Emerson was still lacking fitness after his injury

He looked very sharp on his cup debut, then he was benched again.

5 hours ago, Gentian said:

Your language is out of line buddy.

Since you seem to be so knowledgeable you ought to apply for the position. 

His language wasn’t out of line, he was just making a point, he wasn’t the one who started with the insults. Nevertheles, I’m going to have to be a ‘dullard’ and stick to my guns, it’s not as if there hasn’t been a single manager at this club who hasn’t played favourites, Jose with Brana for example, when everyone could see he was on his last legs.  

Edited April 30, 20188 yr by Floyd25

12 hours ago, Stim said:

You know he was only signed in Jan right? And was signed after an injury kept him out for a long time right? And that he had only made 2 appearances for Roma this season right?

So maybe in Contes personal opinion Emerson was still lacking fitness after his injury

Or the other one I guess.

Strange that he's not been fit and can then magically play 3 games in a row, without and issues, just when we need him. He's been able to play for ages, Conte just hasn't given him a chance.

8 hours ago, Gentian said:

Your language is out of line buddy.

Since you seem to be so knowledgeable you ought to apply for the position. 

What are you on about? He didn't say anything wrong. 

I'd hope Emerson keeps his place for the Pool game but I'd bet the mortgage money that Alonso will be starting, even though a much quicker and mobile Emerson would be better equipped to deal with Liverpools press and pace on the counter.

If you get a chance and you grab it you should keep your spot. I'd be very disappointed if this guy is dropped.

If Emerson is dropped then I’ll lose all of my faith on Conte.

Lets not compare Emerson to the Alonso of last few games, he clearly was knackered. But even with Alonso at his best, I still think Emerson is a better fit especially against Liverpool.

Can we play Alonso in Bakayoko’s place in 5 3 2 formation? He is kind of a midfielder anyway he always drifts into the middle.

2 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

If Emerson is dropped then I’ll lose all of my faith on Conte.

Lets not compare Emerson to the Alonso of last few games, he clearly was knackered. But even with Alonso at his best, I still think Emerson is a better fit especially against Liverpool.

Can we play Alonso in Bakayoko’s place in 5 3 2 formation? He is kind of a midfielder anyway he always drifts into the middle.

nope, Alonso is one of the least dynamic players on the squad, and he cant dribble for sh*t and his passing is not that good either.

One position that i do think he would be able to shine though, would be as a CB in our back 3

2 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

If Emerson is dropped then I’ll lose all of my faith on Conte.

Lets not compare Emerson to the Alonso of last few games, he clearly was knackered. But even with Alonso at his best, I still think Emerson is a better fit especially against Liverpool.

Can we play Alonso in Bakayoko’s place in 5 3 2 formation? He is kind of a midfielder anyway he always drifts into the middle.

Also, the odds of Conte staying are low, so i am not too worried about what Conte might do, because i know he will be gone.

Sarri though, is going to love Emerson if he comes,  he looks exactly the type of player he loves and is actually pretty similar to Ghoulam 

15 hours ago, Floyd25 said:

His language wasn’t out of line, he was just making a point, he wasn’t the one who started with the insults. Nevertheles, I’m going to have to be a ‘dullard’ and stick to my guns, it’s not as if there hasn’t been a single manager at this club who hasn’t played favourites, Jose with Brana for example, when everyone could see he was on his last legs.  

I didn't think that you are a dullard, so you stick to your guns.  And you, and others, have missed my point.  I never said that managers don't have favourites, and Mourinho was one of the worst for that. My point has always been that these favourites are not picked just because the manager personally likes them, they are his mates and make him laugh. 

Brana is a good example.  I doubt very much that Jose and Brana went down the pub together, or went round each others houses at the weekend for barbecues, but Brana WAS Mourinho's first choice for that position and those tactics whenever he selected him, regardless of the fact that we all thought Brana was done.

My "dullard" comment is directed specifically at those idiots in here who believe that a top manager of a multi-million pound organisation would make critical choices that could and do affect the success or otherwise of that organisation based solely on a personal like or dislike of a member of that organisation.  That view is simplistic, infantile and stupid.

8 hours ago, yorkleyblue said:

My point has always been that these favourites are not picked just because the manager personally likes them, they are his mates and make him laugh. 

Brana is a good example.  I doubt very much that Jose and Brana went down the pub together, or went round each others houses at the weekend for barbecues, but Brana WAS Mourinho's first choice for that position and those tactics whenever he selected him, regardless of the fact that we all thought Brana was done.

My "dullard" comment is directed specifically at those idiots in here who believe that a top manager of a multi-million pound organisation would make critical choices that could and do affect the success or otherwise of that organisation based solely on a personal like or dislike of a member of that organisation.  That view is simplistic, infantile and stupid.

Fair enough, you make a good point, I wasn’t suggesting that Conte picks certain players because of a like or dislike of their character. But he has picked certain players, perhaps based on tactical understanding, despite their limited ability with the ball, Bakayoko for Instance. It’s also difficult to grasp what players he may or may not have had a hand in signing, as his input in transfer dealings seems fairly limited, so it’s possible that that does sway his decision making at times.

10 minutes ago, Floyd25 said:

Fair enough, you make a good point, I wasn’t suggesting that Conte picks certain players because of a like or dislike of their character. But he has picked certain players, perhaps based on tactical understanding, despite their limited ability with the ball, Bakayoko for Instance. It’s also difficult to grasp what players he may or may not have had a hand in signing, as his input in transfer dealings seems fairly limited, so it’s possible that that does sway his decision making at times.

No, I didn't think you would  think that, and thank you. 

There are some in here who claim to honestly believe that Conte (and other managers such as Mourinho) actually pick players purely because they like them on a personal level and refuse to pick players purely because they dislike them on a personal level.  Those were the posters I was deriding as infantile and stupid. 

There is no doubt that Conte has made mistakes this season, both in selection and tactics, but it takes a simpleton of the highest order to believe that he has done this on purpose to accommodate his personal friends or to spoil our season.

I don't believe that anyone at all could possibly be that stupid and still function in society, so I'm convinced that they are only adopting such a ridiculous stance as a wind-up, or as a joke.

Edited May 1, 20188 yr by yorkleyblue