In fairness to Sarri, this is probably one of the worst Juve teams in recent times. They are simply not good enough to realistically win the Champions League right now

I don't feel he'll have any regrets about leaving Napoli, he's won the Europa League and a League title in the last two years and has been able to manage players like Ronaldo and Hazard

3 hours ago, bisright1 said:

he is still labelled as some form of joke manager by idiots like you

I never labelled him a joke then (although I was accused of doing so), didn't here either.

The problem with "idiots like me" (and thanks for going straight to abusive, you are clearly a charmer) is that we realise that reality is complicated.

Sarri wouldn't be teaching Hazard anything he doesn't know, just like he couldn't possibly teach Ronaldo anything he doesn't already know, but I still think he's a good manager, although he was what I consider a "fundamentalist" rather than "pragmatist". Neither is right or wrong, they are just less and more effective, or appropriate, for different circumstances. No manager worth his salt was walking into Chelsea last year and identifying the problem as our best player standing in the wrong places. It was super weird that some Chelsea fans thought he would.

And oddly, at the time I was saying that Hazard probably would benefit from a more attacking coach after two years of Conte, but I was still getting called "mental" because I didn't think Sarri would be "teaching" him anything. I thought of it today. I thought the problem was clearly that Ronaldo didn't want to learn from Sarri. Had a chuckle. I wondered if things have changed here, or whether I'd get called an idiot straight off the bat. Question answered. Cheers.

TBH, I accept that what happened was that everyone was super-excited about their shiny new toy and was swinging straight off his nuts, refusing to hear any criticism. That is well past now, for most anyway.

There is a sorta mentality that means everyone is either brilliant or sh*te, and anyone who says someone isn't brilliant is saying that they are sh*te, and everyone who says someone isn't sh*te is saying they are brilliant. It's an intellectual vacuousness that you have fallen into I'm afraid. Reality is complicated.

Anyway, KTBFFH. I doubt I'll be back, so enjoy the football (even if right now isn't the best time to say that).

4 minutes ago, Ready Player One said:

I never labelled him a joke then (although I was accused of doing so), didn't here either.

The problem with "idiots like me" (and thanks for going straight to abusive, you are clearly a charmer) is that we realise that reality is complicated.

Sarri wouldn't be teaching Hazard anything he doesn't know, just like he couldn't possibly teach Ronaldo anything he doesn't already know, but I still think he's a good manager, although he was what I consider a "fundamentalist" rather than "pragmatist". Neither is right or wrong, they are just less and more effective, or appropriate, for different circumstances. No manager worth his salt was walking into Chelsea last year and identifying the problem as our best player standing in the wrong places. It was super weird that some Chelsea fans thought he would.

And oddly, at the time I was saying that Hazard probably would benefit from a more attacking coach after two years of Conte, but I was still getting called "mental" because I didn't think Sarri would be "teaching" him anything. I thought of it today. I thought the problem was clearly that Ronaldo didn't want to learn from Sarri. Had a chuckle. I wondered if things have changed here, or whether I'd get called an idiot straight off the bat. Question answered. Cheers.

TBH, I accept that what happened was that everyone was super-excited about their shiny new toy and was swinging straight off his nuts, refusing to hear any criticism. That is well past now, for most anyway.

There is a sorta mentality that means everyone is either brilliant or sh*te, and anyone who says someone isn't brilliant is saying that they are sh*te, and everyone who says someone isn't sh*te is saying they are brilliant. It's an intellectual vacuousness that you have fallen into I'm afraid. Reality is complicated.

Anyway, KTBFFH. I doubt I'll be back, so enjoy the football (even if right now isn't the best time to say that).

You came back to gloat about a prediction that didn't even come true. 

You are an idiot. Piss off. 

9 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

You came back to gloat about a prediction that didn't even come true. 

You are an idiot. Piss off. 

Well. This morning I came back to find out about who was going to play in the Bayern game and just now I’ve come back to see if anyone had any info on that disallowed goal. Posting was just because I was reminded myself why I gave up on football forums. Full of abusive loons who lack the empathy to understand others with alternate points of view in any way other than name calling. 
 

And seeing as how “being nice” has gone out the window: Hazard learned f**k all from Sarri and the only people who could possibly disagree with that at this point are appalling Sarri nuthuggers, which is a real odd thing to be. 
 

Be happy. 

6 minutes ago, Ready Player One said:

Well. This morning I came back to find out about who was going to play in the Bayern game and just now I’ve come back to see if anyone had any info on that disallowed goal. Posting was just because I was reminded myself why I gave up on football forums. Full of abusive loons who lack the empathy to understand others with alternate points of view in any way other than name calling. 
 

And seeing as how “being nice” has gone out the window: Hazard learned f**k all from Sarri and the only people who could possibly disagree with that at this point are appalling Sarri nuthuggers, which is a real odd thing to be. 
 

Be happy. 

I thought you said you were leaving?

5 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I thought you said you were leaving?

Looking for replays of the CHO disallowed goal bro.

Be happy.

1 minute ago, Ready Player One said:

Looking for replays of the CHO disallowed goal bro.

Be happy.

Okay cool I'm done feeding the troll. Hope you are satisfied

 

 

 

14 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Okay cool I'm done feeding the troll. Hope you are satisfied

 

Mate, not everyone who disagrees with you is a troll. If you start a conversation by calling people idiots, if that conversation becomes antagonistic it’s all on you. You have literally been abusive toward me in every post. Just chill. It’s just sport. Relax. 
 

FWIW, I’d have liked to have seen Sarri moulding a group of kids like the ones we have now. Although at the same time he had a few of these lads last year and didn’t play them. He’s wrong for a club with star players who need building around because he’s got a system and he needs people to buy into that. Give him young players with a lot to learn and a need for guidance and I think he can be the guidance they need. IMO. 
 

You do learn during your career, but you don’t learn much at 27 and are a “star player”. 
 

Anyway, I found the screenshot of Tammy offside, so have a good one. 

I am much more shaken by the fact Pirlo takes over Juve than Sarri getting the sack. One of my all time favourite footballers. Weird to see him take over a massive club so soon. This trend is going on in every big club now but still. Never thought Pirlo would manage a team. He is such soft spoken man who's enjoys life that management doesn't fit the bill. Maybe he just wants to challenge himself. Anyway great to see him back in football.

Sarri will find a good job. He is a top manager. Maybe not as big club as Juve but from a big league in a CL level team.

You all know we're going to draw Juventus next season, don't you.

3 hours ago, Valerie said:

You all know we're going to draw Juventus next season, don't you.

Either that or the Serie A team with the premier league rejects managed by signori Conte.

1 hour ago, Strider6003 said:

Either that or the Serie A team with the premier league rejects managed by signori Conte.

I would love us to face Conte in CL next season imagine full form Pulisic, Werner and Ziyech running at Moses and Ashley Young lol

On 09/08/2020 at 21:45, Gol15 said:

I would love us to face Conte in CL next season imagine full form Pulisic, Werner and Ziyech running at Moses and Ashley Young lol

It’s considered a dick move to encourage anyone to think about that end of a bell 

This can surely only mean one thing?

 

1 hour ago, PloKoon13 said:

This can surely only mean one thing?

 

He's a decent coach tactically, good for him

1 hour ago, PloKoon13 said:

This can surely only mean one thing?

 

Have Lazio been linked with Jorginho yet?

2 hours ago, Munkworth said:

Have Lazio been linked with Jorginho yet?

He'll cost a few bob these days - he's a Champions League winner don't you know?

Does this guy deserve more credit? Did he revolutionise our style? 

As soon as he came we became a possession based team. Yes it can be boring and ineffective if not used properly which we have seen but when used right, it is devastating.

So am I right in thinking that Sarri laid the foundations for where we are today ?

8 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

So am I right in thinking that Sarri laid the foundations for where we are today ?

It is worthy of consideration yet for me he built upon Conte's style, where we were also playing one or two touch football.

Edited August 26, 20214 yr by strider6004

Lazio after 2 games have 9 goals scored. The Rome derby is going to be exciting to see.

Sarri hugging Jose with a smile on his face, Jose more serious. Tammy and Pedro starting for their teams, Sarri with the 4-3-3 of course and Jose 4-2-3-1. The Olympico derby about to start.

3:2 victory with some great goals, M.-Savic showed his class, Immobile had 2 assists and Pedro scored a classic goal.

The view from the front of the picture posted by @Gol15

1 hour ago, Munkworth said:

The view from the front of the picture posted by @Gol15

That epic birdy can take down Sarri and Jorginho any day I think.