11 minutes ago, ozboy said:

 

That’s what’s galling about it really. Sarri has taken a promotion. 

He's gone, let it go. Breeeaaathe....hummmmmmm......inner peace (and hide the hope he'll f**k up)....

32 minutes ago, ozboy said:

 

That’s what’s galling about it really. Sarri has taken a promotion. 

There’s no doubt Juventus are miles ahead of us, in every position but Serie A doesn’t even come close to Premier League. Personally I saw him as abit of a coward, taking the easy way out after Hazard exit and transfer ban.

I suppose it’s also a real possibility that he is actually homesick but I get the feeling he never grew onto the club.

18 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

How do we measure their ability? Sarri’s inheriting a Juventus side that’s won Serie A for the last, what, eight years? 

He’s got Ronaldo and their about to sign De Ligt for over £100m... and that’s just for starters.

What chance do the other teams have of getting close to Juventus short of Sarri having an absolute disaster of a season?

Everyone quotes Conte's managerial ability from his time at Juve when he had the funds to do the exact same thing in the same league. 

Inter are also spending big this year.

18 hours ago, Chelsbear said:

I’m sorry but that comment isn’t very clever is it?

You do realise It’s akin to someone walking now in and taking over Barcelona while Madrid are in turmoil.

I think just about every footballing person out there knows who the superior manager is and it’s got nothing to do with what will happen this season:

Surely the superior manager is the one being picked for these top jobs and not the one who no one wanted for a year and has ended up at Inter? 

Now who'd making daft comments.

32 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

I suppose it’s also a real possibility that he is actually homesick but I get the feeling he never grew onto the club.

To be fair, I"ve made a couple of career moves which I regretted not long after starting. I moved on pretty quickly. It's probably no different in football, only with more money, more publicity, more pressure and more opinionated onlookers (I don't mean you). 

Edited June 30, 20197 yr by Valerie

I bet you didn’t have 40k fans singing f**k valieball at any of those career moves Val!

I bet you didn’t have 40k fans singing f**k valieball at any of those career moves Val!

You not been to the Red light district in Amsterdam Mod?

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Everyone quotes Conte's managerial ability from his time at Juve when he had the funds to do the exact same thing in the same league. 

Inter are also spending big this year.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Juventus had finished 7th two seasons in a row before Conte got there and he was the one who restarted the Juventus-dynasty in Italy.
And he never spent much money doing it, in fact he left the club after three years because the board didn't want to spend money.

Edited June 30, 20197 yr by Sindre

7 minutes ago, loz said:

10 minutes ago, Mod Stark said:

I bet you didn’t have 40k fans singing f**k valieball at any of those career moves Val!

You not been to the Red light district in Amsterdam Mod?

Your'e confusing our Val with your Vander Val, the infamous trans Queen of downtown Amsterdam that you visit on 'business trips'.

35 minutes ago, Mod Stark said:

I bet you didn’t have 40k fans singing f**k valieball at any of those career moves Val!

I didn't count them, but it could have been that many 

How you all know my workplace used to be near the Red Light District is beyond me. It got so noisy, though, from Lozzy types on "business trips", that we had to relocate to an industrial park. 

Edited June 30, 20197 yr by Valerie

35 minutes ago, Sindre said:

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Juventus had finished 7th two seasons in a row before Conte got there and he was the one who restarted the Juventus-dynasty in Italy.
And he never spent much money doing it, in fact he left the club after three years because the board didn't want to spend money.

Well i clearly do know what i'm talking about..

Juve were also a sleeping giant with a plethora of wealth. They finished 3rd in their first season back in Serie A following their scandal. The two years before Conte were plagued with presidential changes, a managerial merry go round with awful appointments and a relocation of stadium. The ship was always going to be steadied, it just happened to be Conte that did it.

What about Sarri with Napoli then, underachieved until Sarri took them to a 90+ point season and forged some of the greatest players in that league. Will Conte be able to do that with Inter? i doubt it. Sarri achieved more points (91) than Conte managed in his unbeaten season with Juventus (84).

19 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

Juventus will walk the league next season like they normally do whoever is in charge, already signed Ramsey and De Ligt and looks like Rabiot is on his way, there squad is quality.

That is a given; but he is not there to win Serie A, he is there to win them the CL. 

I wont be surprised if he is sacked in 2 years.

3 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Everyone quotes Conte's managerial ability from his time at Juve when he had the funds to do the exact same thing in the same league. 

Inter are also spending big this year.

Surely the superior manager is the one being picked for these top jobs and not the one who no one wanted for a year and has ended up at Inter? 

Now who'd making daft comments.

Juventus are adding superstars to a squad already filled with superstars, Inter are quite abit away from Juventus and from what I have read are having to sell to buy. 

10 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Juventus are adding superstars to a squad already filled with superstars, Inter are quite abit away from Juventus and from what I have read are having to sell to buy. 

Juve have been doing that for years, Sarri managed to challenge them with Napoli so Conte should be able to with Inter if he's such a great manager.

6 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Juve have been doing that for years, Sarri managed to challenge them with Napoli so Conte should be able to with Inter if he's such a great manager.

Let's see if Sarri can win the premier league with a team who finished 10th the year before.

 

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Well i clearly do know what i'm talking about..

Juve were also a sleeping giant with a plethora of wealth. They finished 3rd in their first season back in Serie A following their scandal. The two years before Conte were plagued with presidential changes, a managerial merry go round with awful appointments and a relocation of stadium. The ship was always going to be steadied, it just happened to be Conte that did it.

What about Sarri with Napoli then, underachieved until Sarri took them to a 90+ point season and forged some of the greatest players in that league. Will Conte be able to do that with Inter? i doubt it. Sarri achieved more points (91) than Conte managed in his unbeaten season with Juventus (84).

So what? United are also a sleeping giant and have been sh*te for six years now and no manager have steadied that ship have they? Juventus were a complete mess and in turmoil before Conte got to them. And no they didn't buy their way to success when Conte took over, it was his ability and system that did that. Go check their transfer-record during his time there and you'll see that for yourself.

We were also a complete mess when Conte came here and he took us from 10th to Champions.

You can come back to me when Sarri takes two clubs that have finished 7th and 10th respectively to Champions in one season. Then he'll have something to be proud about. not winning some B-competitions facing sh*te teams throughout.

23 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Let's see if Sarri can win the premier league with a team who finished 10th the year before.

You mean the same squad that had won the league the season before that?

18 minutes ago, Sindre said:

 

So what? United are also a sleeping giant and have been sh*te for six years now and no manager have steadied that ship have they? Juventus were a complete mess and in turmoil before Conte got to them. And no they didn't buy their way to success when Conte took over, it was his ability and system that did that. Go check their transfer-record during his time there and you'll see that for yourself.

We were also a complete mess when Conte came here and he took us from 10th to Champions.

You can come back to me when Sarri takes two clubs that have finished 7th and 10th respectively to Champions in one season. Then he'll have something to be proud about. not winning some B-competitions facing sh*te teams throughout.

Can't wait for Conte to make Inter Milan champions in his first year next season then.

Don't forget that exact Chelsea squad won the league the season before we came tenth...

12 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Can't wait for Conte to make Inter Milan champions in his first year next season then.

Don't forget that exact Chelsea squad won the league the season before we came tenth...

Even if he did you'll probably find some excuse to claim Sarri is better.

27 minutes ago, Sindre said:

 

You can come back to me when Sarri takes two clubs that have finished 7th and 10th respectively to Champions in one season. Then he'll have something to be proud about. not winning some B-competitions facing sh*te teams throughout.

First off, I've got no interest at all in the rest of your post. The part I've underlined/bolder in the other hand, reflects an attitude that I'm not at all fond of. To put it mildly. 

Oh and I'm not here to defend Sarri either. He's gone, f**k him, as has Conte. History,. get over it.

Where was I? Oh yes, "Some B comperition". Nowadays, since the demise of the Cup Winners Cup, there are a grand total of two major European trophies. And we won one of them.

It's in inbred cousin to the attitude that dismisses any trophy bar the Champions League and Premier League title as Mickey Mouse, that writes off the League Cup and even the FA Cup, God help us, as second rate, scarcely worth bothering about.

Spoilt brattishness at its purest. 

10 minutes ago, Upsetter said:

First off, I've got no interest at all in the rest of your post. The part I've underlined/bolder in the other hand, reflects an attitude that I'm not at all fond of. To put it mildly. 

Oh and I'm not here to defend Sarri either. He's gone, f**k him, as has Conte. History,. get over it.

Where was I? Oh yes, "Some B comperition". Nowadays, since the demise of the Cup Winners Cup, there are a grand total of two major European trophies. And we won one of them.

It's in inbred cousin to the attitude that dismisses any trophy bar the Champions League and Premier League title as Mickey Mouse, that writes off the League Cup and even the FA Cup, God help us, as second rate, scarcely worth bothering about.

Spoilt brattishness at its purest. 

I am and was talking about it in the context of Sarri's ability as a manager.

The best team we faced by far in the entire competition was Arsenal. That tells you what you need to know about this years level in the Europe-league.

It's a good trophy and i celebrated it like everyone else but in terms of achievement it is almost nothing compared to winning the league lets say. Which i am sure most would agree with.

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Can't wait for Conte to make Inter Milan champions in his first year next season then.

Don't forget that exact Chelsea squad won the league the season before we came tenth...

Tbh it wouldn't actually surprise me if Conte actually does do it with Inter within two years, its after that the sh*t will start.

At Juve his first two titles were totally unexpected (the first was seen as a one off not quite like Leicester but no one thought they would come close to retaining it), he was fighting the odds how he likes it. His third season the cracks started to show, okay granted he won the league with record points but a poor showing's in the other comps including a group stage exit of the CL led to the other side of Conte coming out, for example passing blame onto the board for his poor CL show.

We all know the story about what happened with us.

He's the best in the world at motivating himself and his players to make the top of the mountain from a position of handicap but he just doesn't have a clue how to keep them at the top once there, it goes a long way to explaining why he starts insisting on a real life version of FM with a financial cheat code once he's had his 'miracle' title(s). 

Edited June 30, 20197 yr by Argo

14 minutes ago, Argo said:

it goes a long way to explaining why he starts insisting on a real life version of FM with a financial cheat code once he's had his 'miracle' title(s). 

Not accurate.

Here for example he accurately concluded that we would need more top class players if we were going to be able to compete on multiple fronts. It wasn't about "cheat coding" anything and most of the players Conte wanted went to some of our main rivals anyways which is a clear indication none of them were some type of unattainble dream type of signing.

He simply demands as much from the people around him as he does of himself. So when he feels let down by the club (like he without a doubt were in 2017) he had a major problem with that.

There is no doubt we would be in a much better position right now if we had actually supported Conte and his vision.

I hope Conte fails massively the bellend, how anyone can stand up for him after his season of childish, brattish unprofessional idiocy is beyond me. 

1 minute ago, dkw said:

I hope Conte fails massively the bellend, how anyone can stand up for him after his season of childish, brattish unprofessional idiocy is beyond me. 

You defended Sarri all season and he was and is a massive bellend.

Conte gave everything he had for the club and won us the league. You should have some respect for people that have actually done something for this club.

 

1 hour ago, Sindre said:

Even if he did you'll probably find some excuse to claim Sarri is better.

And if he doesn't you'll revert back to his accolades from 7 years ago while Sarri goes on winning.

7 minutes ago, Sindre said:

Not accurate.

Here for example he accurately concluded that we would need more top class players if we were going to be able to compete on multiple fronts. It wasn't about "cheat coding" anything and most of the players Conte wanted went to some of our main rivals anyways which is a clear indication none of them were some type of unattainble dream type of signing.

He simply demands as much from the people around him as he does of himself. So when he feels let down by the club (like he without a doubt were in 2017) he had a major problem with that.

There is no doubt we would be in a much better position right now if we had actually supported Conte and his vision.

He also insisted we needed a deeper squad, was he expecting 6 world class signings? Argo summed it up nicely, the bloke thinks he's playing FM.

If we'd supported Conte and his 'vision', we'd have a declining A.Sandro with attitude problems, Morata sulking about up top, Sanchez on the wing scoring one goal a season collecting 500k a week and a 33 year old Bonucci at the back. I'm bloody thankful we didn't support his vision.

5 minutes ago, dkw said:

I hope Conte fails massively the bellend, how anyone can stand up for him after his season of childish, brattish unprofessional idiocy is beyond me. 

Absolutely this. Massive man baby.