12 hours ago, wallosh said:

20 hours ago, Dean said:

Couldn’t agree more. I think it could be a disaster if we sacked him. What better coach would WANT the job if he were sacked?

Trust me, we will get someone better than Sarri. We ain't a league one team

Agree we are not a league one team. we are a team with deep-rooted problems that is nonetheless challenging for fourth place in the toughest league in the world, and still in three cup competitions including a final ... under Sarri. 

13 hours ago, wallosh said:

21 hours ago, Dean said:

Couldn’t agree more. I think it could be a disaster if we sacked him. What better coach would WANT the job if he were sacked?

Trust me, we will get someone better than Sarri. We ain't a league one team

You write some nonsense. 

Who would join us!? Anyone who did would have to assume they'd be sacked within 24 months - sounds like the exact type of coach we would want. 

You write some nonsense. 
Who would join us!? Anyone who did would have to assume they'd be sacked within 24 months - sounds like the exact type of coach we would want. 

This has been happening for a while now, it's not something new. There are lots of managers, fans, pundits out there who still felt we sacked the likes of Ancelloti and Di Matteo too soon.
Am sure Conte and Sarri were aware of all that before they signed up, or were they threatened with a gun on there foreheads?[emoji848][emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

18 minutes ago, wallosh said:

This has been happening for a while now, it's not something new. There are lots of managers, fans, pundits out there who still felt we sacked the likes of Ancelloti and Di Matteo too soon.
Am sure Conte and Sarri were aware of all that before they signed up, or were they threatened with a gun on there foreheads?

Yeah and I think Conte quit on us knowing he'd be sacked. I think the players downed tools on Conte knowing he'd be sacked. 

I think some players in the squad aren't worried about their position because they assume Sarri will be gone in the summer. 

Any manager that joins, joins knowing they will probably be gone in 18 months. As does the squad. We won't ever challenge for the title again unless we fix those views and create a squad that works with a manager. 

It was fine before, we had a world class squad and the competition was rebuilding. Now we have a weak squad, no real funds, no structure on the board and our competition are better.

Edited February 16, 20197 yr by bisright1

Players want trophies and I imagine the older they get they realise winning trophies now, is more important than building a new football philosophy to climax two season down the line.

This brings tension.

When I saw clips of us pre-season, I liked Jorginho yet wondered how long it would be before he got closed down and would he be able to compensate. 

I also think it was a mistake on Sarri's part not to insist on two players before the start of the season. Having just Jorginho until January versed in Sarri ball seems madness given the scale of the change he was trying to introduce at CFC.

 

 

Interesting article on the formation changes made at Napoli by Sarri, he did not start with a 4-3-3.

He reverted to this after a dressing room debate. 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/napoli-chelsea-maurizio-sarri-future-15817778

 

1 hour ago, Strider6003 said:

Interesting article on the formation changes made at Napoli by Sarri, he did not start with a 4-3-3.

He reverted to this after a dressing room debate. 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/napoli-chelsea-maurizio-sarri-future-15817778

 

Good article

Just now, charierre said:

Good article

Yes, I would like us to try 4-2-3-1, his first formation at Napoli,

12 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Yes, I would like us to try 4-2-3-1, his first formation at Napoli,

are you Jermaine Jenas in disguise? He said the same exact thing. Personally I don't want to do anything that punk suggests.

1 hour ago, Strider6003 said:

Interesting article on the formation changes made at Napoli by Sarri, he did not start with a 4-3-3.

He reverted to this after a dressing room debate. 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/napoli-chelsea-maurizio-sarri-future-15817778

 

The last part sums up Sarri pretty dam well and his only been here 8 months.

41 minutes ago, robdog said:

are you Jermaine Jenas in disguise? He said the same exact thing. Personally I don't want to do anything that punk suggests.

Didn't know he said, perhaps he got something right after all, balance of probabilities it had to happen at sometime!

20 hours ago, Gol15 said:

It's still a big question if the team is on the right track. Sarri might lead to a top 4 finish which would be the ideal end to this season but if it doesn't happen it would be understandable.

But that still doesn't answer the question if the club is on the right path with Sarri. He might not have what it takes to win something, maybe not in the short term and not on the long term but he is here to implement his way of playing the game either way so not trusting in him wouldn't be a logical move, he was given this chance and if the club turns the back on him it would show serious signs of a sickness at the club, borderline personality disorder levels but even so Sarri is not the right coach for the long term, he can make a new team and new leaders if he is given 2 more seasons and that's his max IMO but nobody knows what will happen next game let alone in 2 seasons...

Conte not finishing top 4 last season was not understandable, it all looked like the club did the best to sabotage itself. But he did win the league and FA cup, his merits with the club are far more impressive compared to Sarri's whole career and yet something went very wrong there, Ancelotti was also a good manager for the club but got sacked, though with far less reasonable arguments when compared to Conte, so the fact that the club might stick with Sarri suggests that the expectations would be much much lower, which is sad because before Sarri the expectations were really far too high.

Conte fell out with the board, that was clear as day, and he did nothing but go on about it and the fans got sick of it. They got sick of the negativity and how kept putting down our players, he also contradicted himself a few times when he kept saying we need a bigger squad, then he started complaining that the board signed too many players. 

Ancelotti was a superb manager, but who did we sign after the title win in 2010? Ramires and Yossi Benayoun... We had a squad with the average age of 30, all of our key players were 30-32 so we were bound to regress and the board signed no replacements, except Fernando Torres and Luiz in January and we all know how the Torres signing went. 

Purely I think the board has just been incompetent on so many things, for all the success we've had they've also made some horrendous mistakes. But like I said this season is bigger than Sarri, if we sack Sarri and get someone like Allegri or Simeone in we have learned absolutely nothing and signing Sarri in the first place makes no sense. 

29 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

Didn't know he said, perhaps he got something right after all, balance of probabilities it had to happen at sometime!

I tried to find the video for you. It was the match preview for arse vs Chelsea on the EPL today show. Matt Holland & Jermaine Jenas were during their tactical analysis of how the match would be played out & Jenas was straight hating on Sarri's system. IMHO I believe many fans ate that shit, because I see many people saying the same thing. I am not saying you are....I was trying to be funny with you.

48 minutes ago, robdog said:

I tried to find the video for you. It was the match preview for arse vs Chelsea on the EPL today show. Matt Holland & Jermaine Jenas were during their tactical analysis of how the match would be played out & Jenas was straight hating on Sarri's system. IMHO I believe many fans ate that shit, because I see many people saying the same thing. I am not saying you are....I was trying to be funny with you.

I didn't see it and I've said 4-2-3-1. Mainly because that's what he played at empoli and because when kante has played deeper and closer to jorginho, we've played well (this kante played like that against city). It provides a bit more balance. It's difficult perhaps as we need a stronger AMC than we have 

I do hate Jenas though so am now second guessing myself 

23 hours ago, wallosh said:

On 15/02/2019 at 11:32, RMCM said:

Kante has always been a box to box player, he's just less deep now. This obsession people have with him sitting in the middle midfield position is really grinding my gears. 

Maybe because he was rated as one of the best midfielders in the world when he played under Conte as a defensive midfielder.

Matic was our 'defensive' holding mid. . . 

1 minute ago, RMCM said:

Matic was our 'defensive' holding mid. . . 

Giving him the benefit of the doubt defensive midfielder isn't necessarily synonymous with holding mid, it's a general term for midfield roles in the defensive area. Kante was a solid ball winning midfielder who played much deeper, I think that can qualify as a defensive midfielder. 

1 minute ago, Slojo said:

Giving him the benefit of the doubt defensive midfielder isn't necessarily synonymous with holding mid, it's a general term for midfield roles in the defensive area. Kante was a solid ball winning midfielder who played much deeper, I think that can qualify as a defensive midfielder. 

I'm just being pedantic on this point because he's spewed some serious sh*te in this and other thread

2 minutes ago, RMCM said:

I'm just being pedantic on this point because he's spewed some serious sh*te in this and other thread

That's fair mate I can't deny that  

Edited February 16, 20197 yr by Slojo

4 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

Interesting article on the formation changes made at Napoli by Sarri, he did not start with a 4-3-3.

He reverted to this after a dressing room debate. 

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/news/napoli-chelsea-maurizio-sarri-future-15817778

 

Really interesting article from a tactical perspective. I must say, reading that hasn’t filled me with too much hope. 

I do like Sarri but I am starting to wonder if the club have made an error in appointing him. 

United game is the win or bust, can't see us having any hope against City next weekend if we can't beat a depleted United. Sarri has to pick a team with the best chance to win this game, no another let's play our football and hope for the best. I'm comfortable with 28% possession if we win 1:0 with a own goal.

11 hours ago, JM7 said:

Really interesting article from a tactical perspective. I must say, reading that hasn’t filled me with too much hope. 

I do like Sarri but I am starting to wonder if the club have made an error in appointing him. 

Sounds like at Napoli he changed because the dressing room wanted it.

Sounds like here he hasn't changed and the dressing room haven't wanted change. Luiz came out with that much.

Interesting. 

Matic was our 'defensive' holding mid. . . 

Like seriously, how come Matic plays a bit more ahead or offensive than Kante?

I'm just being pedantic on this point because he's spewed some serious sh*te in this and other thread

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38 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Sounds like at Napoli he changed because the dressing room wanted it.

Sounds like here he hasn't changed and the dressing room haven't wanted change. Luiz came out with that much.

Interesting. 

I wouldn't read too much into Luiz's comments as he has not been a nailed on starter before Sarri, he is happy now.

Rudiger has moaned saying he wants to win trophies and performances have not been good enough. 

Hazard has bizarrely said he is an 'individual' in a team game and focusses just on his game.

I think there are tensions yet there are splits.

Lawrenson made a comment about all players that aren't playing are unhappy yet at Chelsea I think we go further and say there is another category and that is when players don't think they will achieve anything.

Hazard I think wants a strong season to try and clinch a move to Real Madrid in a season when the focus is on one-touch football and pressing, he is the best dribbler and certainly pressing is not is forte. 

I would guess it is some thing like this:

• Christensen is unhappy with lack of game time.
• Hazard is unhappy with playing style and lack of personal success.
• Rudiger is unhappy as he thinks we are losing matches we should have won.
• Kepa, Luiz, Alonso, Azpi, Pedro, Willian and Barkley will probably just be happy to be playing regularly, IMO.
• Kante is happy as he is learning more, IMO.
• Cahill unhappy frozen out.
• RLC happy he plays when fit.
• CHO unhappy not to play more.
• Jorginho is not happy as he knows we are not playing as Sarri wants and losing too many.
• Giroud would like to play more though is more relaxed re his age.

 

 

15 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

Yes, I would like us to try 4-2-3-1, his first formation at Napoli,

I think if we switched to 4231 we would have to completely give up on pressing high, because we would be losing kante from the press. 

So it would mean inviting teams onto us a bit more, maybe less possession, and it would require the wingers to track back. 

On the plus side, we would be more solid defensively, and there would be more opportunities for us to counter teams.