1 hour ago, evissy said:

So Malmo and City and that is it for Sarri. Our history and way to handle managers have just eaten another top manager. 

 

56 minutes ago, evissy said:

No one is really supporting Sarri it seems. I think us fans are partly responsible for our manager-merry-go-round. You can see how Sarri now needs support but it seems he is completely alone. 

It's called pressure. The higher are the stakes at your job, the more pressure you're under. If you're a highly paid manager at a top European club, you're being watched and tested constantly. If you cannot deal with that and respond to it properly, you should find yourself another occupation.

Sarri's problem is not that he's failing with the results, although it is a painful and depressing feeling for the fanbase used to success  to watch the team keep losing in such a hopeless manner. It's that there are no signs whatsoever that he's capable of handling that pressure well and making changes when needed. If we played some quality football, at least in flashes, but were losing, most fans would say, well, it's far from perfect, but we clearly see what he's attempting to do here, we're on the right path, let's just be patient. There are no such signs under Sarri.

Top managers make the best of what they have at their disposal. Take Conte, for example. Also from Italy and never managed any club outside of Serie A until Chelsea. For all his faults, Antonio made the likes of Alonso and Moses look like much better players than they really are. That's what management is, using what you have in the best and most effective way possible. Name one player who got better under Sarri. In fact, I'd struggle to come up with anyone who plays well under him at Chelsea. Everybody looks exhausted, confused and miserable, and not one is having a good season. 

 

Edited February 19, 20197 yr by abramovich

6 hours ago, ani123 said:

How is Sarri poor with youth, when no one before him, was playing youth? Maybe they are just not on the level of the others.

This is not fifa, to put youth and they perform.
Right now i dont see any youth that are first team ready for a big team. And you can destroy youth in a such bad spot.

Tell me a manager, that goes through difficult period and decide to move thru with youths, and start playing youth?

How many examples you can give me ?

Who exactly you want Sarri to rotate? He has zero depth. This team have no depth. He can only rotate Kovacic/Barkley, Pedro/Willian, Alonso/Emerson.

He already did that plenty of times.

The same thing was written for Conte and how he did not rotate.

You just know this 3 things with all managers, when you call for their head. He did not change formation, he play the same team, and he is stubborn.

 

If Chelsea wants to go forward, the first thing Abramovic needs to do is to release/fired the whole board. Then appoint a good one, that knows about football and then about buisness, not like now, zero football, a lot business.

Otherwise we will still be windmill for managers.

We was Champions two years ago, how our board manage to f**** us that badly is beyond me.

So if you want to ask about someone head, why not ask for the head of the main guilty - Marina.

 

Christensen & CHO have proven that they’re ready to play first team football for us, even Ampadu has shown in the little game time he’s had for us that he has class, these guys deserve game time. 

Look at Sancho, Rashford, even Foden played for city the other day.

 

Meh can rotate more that than, he chooses not to, also most managers don’t moan about their inability to motivate players. If you can’t motivate the ones that are in the team, take them out and play young hungry guys who don’t need any more motivation than just playing.

 

Is it Marina that picks the tactics and sends the team out on to the park? No. The buck stops with the manager and we are horrendous to watch and get rolled over and have our bellies tickled against any of the big boys.

 

Do we need new players? Yes. Does that excuse the awful tactics, team selections and subs? No, not for me.

From where I was sat, it wasn’t a motivation issue against Utd. Players were busting a gut, even Eden!

we lost due to bad defending, a clueless/toothless attack and a manager who cannot/ will not change how his team is set up.

stamford bridge turned on him last night, and once that happens the writing is usually on the wall.

he can say he did it his way, or at least tried to. 

Heard an interesting stat that 6 of the team that started all in some way or another, have their futures unclear. 

Hazard, Higuain, Pedro, Willian etc. 

Of course it doesn’t excuse the poor results and performances but it is symbolic of the current state of the squad and board decisions. 

Also, I can imagine the board being so reluctant to sack sarri given that we paid €7m to release him from Napoli and we’re still negotiating Conte’s pay off. 

3 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Heard an interesting stat that 6 of the team that started all in some way or another, have their futures unclear. 

Hazard, Higuain, Pedro, Willian etc. 

Of course it doesn’t excuse the poor results and performances but it is symbolic of the current state of the squad and board decisions. 

Whole club is a mess from top down. You also have Cahill, Caballero, Green & Giroud’s contract running out in the summer. Isn’t Luiz’s contract also up this summer?

Big Issue here is who now decides who stay or goes considering Sarri’s future is unclear. Add on to that the 40+ On loan  players returning for preseason. 

Tell you what just employ a goddamn Technical Director to sort out the mess.

5 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Whole club is a mess from top down. You also have Cahill, Caballero, Green & Giroud’s contract running out in the summer. Isn’t Luiz’s contract also up this summer?

Big Issue here is who now decides who stay or goes considering Sarri’s future is unclear. Add on to that the 40+ On loan  players returning for preseason. 

Tell you what just employ a goddamn Technical Director to sort out the mess.

Why is that a proof the club is a mess? I'd ship out every one of those players without thinking twice. What are supposed to do, give Cahill, Caballero, Green & Giroud new contracts?

The club needs an overhaul and those players clearly have no future at the club. 

Another frustratingly predictable night. But I can't understand all the supporters calling for Sarri's head. I mean just look at the win percentage!!!

 

22 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Whole club is a mess from top down. You also have Cahill, Caballero, Green & Giroud’s contract running out in the summer. Isn’t Luiz’s contract also up this summer?

Big Issue here is who now decides who stay or goes considering Sarri’s future is unclear. Add on to that the 40+ On loan  players returning for preseason. 

Tell you what just employ a goddamn Technical Director to sort out the mess.

The only player I’d particularly want us to keep is Hazard. Maybe Higuain depending on how he gets on between now and the end of the season, but I’d rather we signed a long term solution. 

 

Every other player mentioned; Willian, Pedro, Luiz, Green, Giroud etc. I’d be happy to see go in the summer. 

Not happening mate. Only chance is Europa league. United will round out the top 4 no matter what we do imo.

Football is unpredictable!
When Jose was still at United, before Solksjaer came on board, do you know how many points that separated us from United? Yeah, even United fans were probably saying the same thing that time that even if they sack Jose and a new manager comes in, they still won't make top 4 because Chelsea won't ever give up that position!

18 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said:

The only player I’d particularly want us to keep is Hazard. Maybe Higuain depending on how he gets on between now and the end of the season, but I’d rather we signed a long term solution. 

 

Every other player mentioned; Willian, Pedro, Luiz, Green, Giroud etc. I’d be happy to see go in the summer. 

God No to Higuain. I agree on shipping every one out, but even if that is the plan we need to have started scouting replacements. Two of those players are also homegrown, and we all know come summer homegrown players will be going at a premium.

With the way things work with us, wouldn’t be surprised if we announce new contracts for a couple of those players before the season ends.

14 minutes ago, ducavis said:

God No to Higuain. I agree on shipping every one out, but even if that is the plan we need to have started scouting replacements. Two of those players are also homegrown, and we all know come summer homegrown players will be going at a premium.

With the way things work with us, wouldn’t be surprised if we announce new contracts for a couple of those players before the season ends.

I could probably accept renewing Green, purely because I think he’ll be on buttons and is just there to fulfill the homegrown quota but I’d prefer we used our loan army/young prospects to fill the HG spots.

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

From where I was sat, it wasn’t a motivation issue against Utd. Players were busting a gut, even Eden!

we lost due to bad defending, a clueless/toothless attack and a manager who cannot/ will not change how his team is set up.

stamford bridge turned on him last night, and once that happens the writing is usually on the wall.

he can say he did it his way, or at least tried to. 

Exactly the same from my seat. Hazard was tracking back for Alonso then gesturing to him as if to say do your job !!

Absolute insanity for me. We get trounced 6-0 at Man City, and then we come back with the exact same gameplan, pretty much the exact same players and the exact same subs? If a 6-0 drubbing is not going to change Sarri's mind about making even the slightest adjustment, then I can't see what will.  There is being principled, and then there is falling on your own sword. 

 

3 hours ago, abramovich said:

If we played some quality football, at least in flashes, but were losing, most fans would say, well, it's far from perfect, but we clearly see what he's attempting to do here, we're on the right path, let's just be patient. There are no such signs under Sarri.

Exactly this for me. 

He has single-handedly put the credibility of the smokers' rights movement back decades...

3 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

He has single-handedly put the credibility of the smokers' rights movement back decades...

Smoker of the year?

Here is a video that shows everything wrong with our defensive pressing and well worth a watch from start to finish. Alot of it is down to our players, but alot of it is also down to our "patterns of pressing". If you've ever wondered why Kante gets bypassed so easily, this video will show you why. 

However, the first third of the video goes into what Pep did to counter our patterns of play. To me, that is the sign of a top manager. Someone who not only has a football "system", but also someone who can adjust based on the opponent. 

Currently, Sarri isn't showing that ability. The PL has found a counter to his system. If he can't adjust, then IMO, he's just a one trick pony. 

 

Time to clean the decks

 

1 hour ago, EdinburghBlue said:

I could probably accept renewing Green, purely because I think he’ll be on buttons and is just there to fulfill the homegrown quota but I’d prefer we used our loan army/young prospects to fill the HG spots.

He doesnt fill the HG quota. Without green we wouldn't have a foreign player, we would have bulka. 

When asked why he doesn't change his starting line up, Sarri responded with "Barcelona were predictable, but they won". [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16] Sarri won't change, the bigger problem is after spending more than 6 months in England he still can't see any difference in the EPL compared to the Italian and other leagues.

50 minutes ago, ani123 said:

Why you always trying to twist someone words?
Sarri never say he can`t motivate this player. He said this group of players are extremely hard to be motivated. You see the difference?

And he is not the first one to face that. If it was only Sarri, we may say he is the problem. But the same s**** happen year ago, and 2 year ago before that.

Christensen prove exactly nothing.

Last season he started good, then he was a completely mess.

Luiz is playing, because he have good passing, and can deliver the ball from the defence to mid or even forwards.

I never liked Luiz, but he is more suit then Christensen for Sarri style. That`s obvious, that`s why he is playing him. Not because Luiz is some kind of great defender now.

And last season you all was moaning about Conte not picking Luiz, and instead he picked Christensen. Now is vice versa. Do you even know what you want?

And once again there is no manager in the world, that rely on not ready youngster to move the team through sh***.

Asked for example, you didnt give so i`m right.

He rotate as much as he can. You cant rotate when you not have the players.

Same sh*** as last year. Exactly the same thing was written here.

At least get new repertoire.

And yeah it`s Marina and Abramovic main fault. I can count you a lot of players, that was come here thanks to here, obviously hers fault. Was it Sarri fault, that he missed almost completely the pre-season ? Was it ?

Was it his fault, that he didnt get the right player back in the summer?

And btw if Sarri fail hard, it`s still the board fault, because they are the guys that choose him.

It was Marina choice to play big **** with Conte and totally destroys our last season. It was hers choice to fired a top world class PROVEN winner, and appoint Sarri. Didn`t the board and Abramovic wanted a beauty football? Didn`t you all was crying for last season?

Why right now you are changing your opinion like a small boy or girl ? I don`t want that toy i want the another, when you get the toy, you decide that you want a other one and repeat ...

The mess the club is in it is a completely board and Abramovic faults. Sarri should not take any blame for their decisions. Sack another manager and this time only 6 months after he was appointed, no way in a world any top manager will want to come here. No one will. Mark my words.

 

I’m not sure how you’re struggling with this. Sarri said he can’t motivate the group. He continues to play the exact same group every week. That’s not twisting what he says, that’s what he does. 

 

I don’t care if Luiz can ping 40 yard balls all day, he is a poor, poor defender in a back 4 - his whole career has numerous examples of his poor defending. Sarri does play him for his passing I agree, which is all well and good when you’re not chucking goals in like confetti.

 

Again, I don’t think you’ve been around here or read here long because I think you’ll find even during his dip in form (which is what it was) under Conte, I still backed Christensen.

 

Hahahahahaa so it’s all the boards fault and Sarri is totally blameless, are you his mum? He got his made conductor in Jorginho and the guy has done nothing since he signed. If there was signs of progress people would have patience and faith but there is zero progress in our performances - if anything we’re getting worse.

 

Again, ala Conte, feel free to look back at my previous posts. I was a big fan of his and felt the clubs failure to back him was a big mistake. I’ve made no secret of my like of fast paced counter attacking football. You say beautiful football as if that’s what we’re watching? What we’re watching is eye bleeding defending and possession for the sake of possession.

Jonathan Wilson's take on things: 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/19/chelsea-fans-maurizio-sarri-blame

5 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Jonathan Wilson's take on things: 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/19/chelsea-fans-maurizio-sarri-blame

Key for me and what he is failing to do is; “.. possible to adapt without compromising the principles that shape the goal to which he is aiming.”

 

 

Edited February 19, 20197 yr by ducavis

10 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:

Jonathan Wilson's take on things: 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/feb/19/chelsea-fans-maurizio-sarri-blame

That is a very fair and accurate description of where we're at. Depressing really.

 

It perfectly highlights the multi faceted f**kup that is Stamford Bridge.

Edited February 19, 20197 yr by Snedger