1 hour ago, Hazzy_B said:

yup. Prof Jordan peterson makes a great listen/Read.

He was doing talks at a uni once and all these brain dead half baked teenagers started smashing the windows in chanting 'facist' over and over while destroying the uni.

Everyone inside is calm trying to talk etc!

Sign of the times.

far right will grow rapidly at this rate.

Watched a few of his speeches on YouTube.

Funny how the antifa mob and lots of SJWs are more facist than the people they call fascists. If you aren’t antifa and hiding your face behind a mask you are shouted down or attacked.

Edited December 15, 20187 yr by Shug

10 minutes ago, Ballack & Blu said:

Someone should monitor the Moronic spuds fans when they sing "y*d Army', is that classed as racism against your own fans?

Well if you read some opinions on here and social media its not and its fine! All about the context and whos being racist!

3 minutes ago, Shug said:

Watched a few of his speeches on YouTube.

Funny how the antifa mob and lots of SJWs are more facist than the people they call fascists. If you aren’t antifa and hiding your face behind a mask you are shouted down or attacked.

Awesome. Someone cool.

Can we be friends? 

22 hours ago, Hazzy_B said:

i mentioned this because its being argued about.

its like a rapper chatting about high power firearms and treating women like dogs then claiming hes not a bad influence on younger men..

how does that stuff or even the constant use of the n word help anything? double standards r us!

What has rap artists got to do with Sterling getting a tattoo of a gun on his leg? 

The gun tattoo, as explained by Sterling, has symbolic meaning to him. His dad was killed by firearms. Instead of using guns himself he turned his legs into metaphorical weapons and uses them on a football pitch.

If you don’t like that, well frankly tough sh*t. The lad hasn’t done anything wrong in getting the tattoo and it’s not my place, yours or anyone else’s to criticise him for him. 

Nearly everything you have posted in this thread is frankly small minded, bordering on idiotic.

19 hours ago, Hazzy_B said:

always like what you say mate.

buttttt im rooting for tony ferguson ;P

I love Tony and Khabib, doesn't bother me, they're two of my favourite fighters. 

13 hours ago, stevo said:

My personal take on it is that Chelsea do not have a problem at all. Every club in the country will have a minority of people that will freely say whatever they feel especially when coked and boozed up. I am not white and not encountered any verbal abuse towards myself at the Bridge since I have been going from the eighties,  in what were supposedly ‘The dark days’. I saw more open racism from teachers at my schools. 

 

 

10 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

I'm not defending idiot fans, but let's be honest here, the media don't give a damn about racism, discrimination or any other form of abuse. All they care about is dragging the club through the mud at any chance they get. It's no longer a case of tackling abuse aimed at footballers, it's just become another chance to get at Chelsea. Chelsea are an easy target, it sells papers, it get's them clicks on the internet, they will play this out as long as possible.

The banana skin incident at Tottenham has been largely swept under the carpet, it's only ever mentioned as a small piece of news now. Tottenham call themselves y*ds every weekend, they sing it all of the time, nothing gets said. Liverpool fans have received countless warnings and fines in Europe for the past 3 years, that get's reported and swept under the carpet the next day. Repeat offences always get ignored when it comes to other clubs.

I'm all for kicking fans out who are racist or anti-semitic, but I don't like how this suddenly turned into yet another media witch hunt instead of focusing on what is truly important.

 

10 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

No I'm fully aware that there is racism in every base. The problem is some Chelsea fans seem to like getting caught and as a result, tarnish the club's reputation and the other decent fans. It sounds so wrong what I'm saying as if they should be discrete like other fans. Quite frankly I hope they all disappear and die, they provide no benefit to this club whatsoever. Bottom line is, some vile people who follow this club put us in  the papers. Maybe we should target the racists and not the media .

 

I really don't know, I've heard things about Chelsea supporters and Stamford Bridge being a rough place especially for minorities but I've never experienced that myself not once ever, it's always been a great place for me to visit. 

Are we worse for it? I really don't know, the train incident and the riots in Paris were disgusting we have to take some responsibility on that account, but the Auba banana incident got absolutely zero coverage compared to this and that does speak volumes. That's not me or anyone else wearing a tinfoil hat that's just a fact. It might be because Sterling is an England international so he's bound to get more protection and spotlight (even if the DM have unfairly reported on his spending in the past), compared to Auba who didn't get this sympathy vote despite actually being racially abused. Sterling there's still no evidence and here we are... The Chelsea racism narrative is a juicy narrative, there's no denying it, but these incidents do tend to happen quite a lot with this club. 

It could be a bit of both, I believe we have the 2nd highest arrests for racism charges in the Premier League behind West Ham (not sure how accurate it is I saw a post on twitter a few years back), so if that's the case, it could be very telling. 

4 hours ago, Hazzy_B said:

yup. Prof Jordan peterson makes a great listen/Read.

He was doing talks at a uni once and all these brain dead half baked teenagers started smashing the windows in chanting 'facist' over and over while destroying the uni.

Everyone inside is calm trying to talk etc!

Sign of the times.

far right will grow rapidly at this rate.

 

3 hours ago, Shug said:

Watched a few of his speeches on YouTube.

Funny how the antifa mob and lots of SJWs are more facist than the people they call fascists. If you aren’t antifa and hiding your face behind a mask you are shouted down or attacked.

Evidence if it were needed that this club definitely has a problem. 

9 hours ago, Zeta said:

So what will be the Chelsea racism scandal today?

To answer my own question:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/15/chelsea-fans-flag-ss-deaths-head-budapest

35 minutes ago, Zeta said:

To answer my own question:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/15/chelsea-fans-flag-ss-deaths-head-budapest

Dominic Fifield in the Guardian yesterday:

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This would be Chelsea’s first offence and a second incident would see them forced to play a match behind closed doors.

Dominic Fifield in the Guardian today:

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Uefa’s disciplinary body is still reviewing reports from the match officials before deciding whether to charge the Premier League side. A decision is expected early this coming week and, if the fans are found guilty, Chelsea will face the partial closure of Stamford Bridge at a future European tie.

Consistent reporting, there.

3 hours ago, Ready Player One said:

 

Evidence if it were needed that this club definitely has a problem. 

Just because I posted that Antifa shout everyone down i’m a racist?

 

get a grip mate

43 minutes ago, Shug said:

Just because I posted that Antifa shout everyone down i’m a racist?

 

get a grip mate

I don't like Antifa either and think if they are covering their faces they should be arrested.

7 hours ago, Shug said:

Watched a few of his speeches on YouTube.

Funny how the antifa mob and lots of SJWs are more facist than the people they call fascists. If you aren’t antifa and hiding your face behind a mask you are shouted down or attacked.

They can't be more fascist by default. Antifa = Anti fascist and nazi, only exists because the far right exists, no far right no antifa. 

this thread has not been a pleasant read.

might I suggest that what we as a fanbase should be worried about is that there is a racist section of our support and that our energy should be spent focusing on how to remove it, rather than worrying about the size of it relative to other clubs, or the way (or frequency) it is reported?

there should be no space for whataboutery or equivocation on this issue.

 

Edited December 15, 20187 yr by g3.7

7 minutes ago, g3.7 said:

this thread has not been a pleasant read.

might I suggest that what we as a fanbase should be worried about is that there is a racist section of our support and that our energy should be spent focusing on how to remove it, rather than worrying about the size of it relative to other clubs, or the way (or frequency) it is reported?

there should be no space for whataboutery or equivocation on this issue.

 

Amazing!  I have read and reread some of the stuff in here and thought, "Where is G3.7? Would that he would return to give us his thoughts on this issue!"  And here you are!  I must start making more wishes!

9 hours ago, ForeverCarefree said:

What has rap artists got to do with Sterling getting a tattoo of a gun on his leg? 

The gun tattoo, as explained by Sterling, has symbolic meaning to him. His dad was killed by firearms. Instead of using guns himself he turned his legs into metaphorical weapons and uses them on a football pitch.

If you don’t like that, well frankly tough sh*t. The lad hasn’t done anything wrong in getting the tattoo and it’s not my place, yours or anyone else’s to criticise him for him. 

Nearly everything you have posted in this thread is frankly small minded, bordering on idiotic.

half my family and friends are dead/wounded from serving, I served 11 years. No one has 'symbolic' gun tattoos. That is absolute BS.

Kanye west level dumb ass

hes a footballer not bloody che guevara! 

Ill criticise anyone i want. Who are you to tell me that lmao?

All you do is criticise everyone and thing about players and the club looking at your posts.

thanks for attacking me out of nowhere, How constructive! YAWN

6 hours ago, Ready Player One said:

 

Evidence if it were needed that this club definitely has a problem. 

yeah mate if you think anything Professor Jordan Peterson has to say is a problem, You're the one with the problem!

Lots of snowflake gens giving me stick and calling me names ignoring facts.

 

Edited December 16, 20187 yr by Hazzy_B

4 hours ago, Zeta said:

To answer my own question:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/15/chelsea-fans-flag-ss-deaths-head-budapest

That is shocking. Our owner is jewish!

3 hours ago, Shug said:

Just because I posted that Antifa shout everyone down i’m a racist?

 

get a grip mate

madness! Were having a decent discussion including people from the black community then suddenly we/I get called names and accused of being idiotic racists?

LOL WUT

 

6 minutes ago, JMaher94 said:

That is shocking. Our owner is jewish!

In May 2018, Abramovich became an Israeli citizen a month after the UK delayed renewing his visa. After the Poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, British authorities would not renew his visa, as tensions rose between the UK and Russia. Abramovich had been travelling in and out of the UK for years on a Tier-1 investor visa, designed for wealthy foreigners who invest at least £2 million in Britain. Abramovich, who is Russian Jewish, exercised his right under Israel's Law of Return, which states that Jews from anywhere in the world can become citizens of Israel. As an Israeli, Abramovich can now visit Britain visa-free.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fabregas-happy-if-chelsea-are-taught-a-lesson-over-fans-behaviour-5j8k80955

Edited December 16, 20187 yr by Hazzy_B

8 hours ago, Slojo said:

I love Tony and Khabib, doesn't bother me, they're two of my favourite fighters. 

lol.  Calm down i was being trying to be friendly

Pretty dry around here hey!

cheers 

5 hours ago, Zeta said:

To answer my own question:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/15/chelsea-fans-flag-ss-deaths-head-budapest

Totally forgot about headhunters and that flag was not at the game but it made it to Hungary as the picture shows.
This is real evidence that shows that the club is racist, sadly. 

1 hour ago, Hazzy_B said:

half my family and friends are dead/wounded from serving, I served 11 years. No one has 'symbolic' gun tattoos. That is absolute BS.

Kanye west level dumb ass

hes a footballer not bloody che guevara! 

Ill criticise anyone i want. Who are you to tell me that lmao?

All you do is criticise everyone and thing about players and the club looking at your posts.

thanks for attacking me out of nowhere, How constructive! YAWN

I see that you joined the Shed End three days ago, and have made forty posts, all but one of which has been in this thread. Do you have a hidden agenda?

 

I don't think @ForeverCarefree attacked you "out of nowhere" as you put it. He pointed out the lack of substance in your posts.  You say you will criticise anyone you want. It therefore follows that others have the right to criticise you.I

You say you served for eleven years. Was that in the British army? I see from your date of birth that you are thirty years old. How old were you when you joined up?

 

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, moi said:

I see that you joined the Shed End three days ago, and have made forty posts, all but one of which has been in this thread. Do you have a hidden agenda?

 

I don't think @ForeverCarefree attacked you "out of nowhere" as you put it. He pointed out the lack of substance in your posts.  You say you will criticise anyone you want. It therefore follows that others have the right to criticise you.I

You say you served for eleven years. Was that in the British army? I see from your date of birth that you are thirty years old. How old were you when you joined up?

 

 

 

 

RAF like my oldman and gramps one a fast jet pilot nav (phantoms then tornados) other wellington bomber pilot with over 70 sorties still kickin and a biography. I joined after leaving school, Was in cadets etc active during iraq and afghan amongst other stuff if you must know.

i havent critised a soul without being sniped for having opinions which some have agreed with, i have many blk/mixed race friends, my mrs is south african and i was at the man city game near this incident..

want my passport, Driving and service card number too?

Edited December 16, 20187 yr by Hazzy_B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLCmDtCDAM

Edited December 16, 20187 yr by Hazzy_B