I'd rather stop making excuse for the squad collecting money over wanting to play. How many players can you hand on heart say have bust a gut since Lampards first time around? Kante (when fit) Mount, Rudiger, Dave. Kovacic only plays well for Croatia, Sterling has been on holiday all season and must be wondering what the F he walked into signing for us, Kai and Ziyech would make better trolly dollys that footballers, I mean Jesus wept, why are people still saying Tuchel this and that when the players didnt even want to turn up for him... this lot gave up on Lampard first time around, havent turned up second time around, happily threw Tuchel under a bus by playing dog sh*te football.

We were forced into a sale via threats of going out of business. We have a new owner who does care, but the players don't. I think Todd should open up the dressing room to fans leaving the ground to give the players the hairdryer. It is ultimately the players who give up, not the backroom staff or managers, the players. Player power at Stamford Bridge has been a massive issue for the club for more than 10+ seasons. 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, axman2526 said:

New theory as to what it was TT did that angered the owners in to sacking him.

He stopped them coming in to the changing room after games, that being the managers and players space and not one for the owners.

Who cares? Who is our current manager? 

Someone from the Chelsea board text Jim White today about them visiting the dressing room.
 

“The text message tells me ‘I don’t know if it’s fair or unfair, but all we ask is the players fight for the fans who invest money, time and energy into the players. We care about winning on and off the pitch’.”

 

Love that from the owners. Roman was the same. 

17 minutes ago, JM7 said:

Someone from the Chelsea board text Jim White today about them visiting the dressing room.
 

“The text message tells me ‘I don’t know if it’s fair or unfair, but all we ask is the players fight for the fans who invest money, time and energy into the players. We care about winning on and off the pitch’.”

 

Love that from the owners. Roman was the same. 

Asking too much from the likes of Felix and Sterling.

Think this will play a lot into the managerial decision as well.

A manager that will fire a rocket up their arses when needed and isn't afraid to make ballsy decisions. 

For me it speaks volumes about these owners and where they are taking the club that 2 Chelsea boys, who have been with us since they were little kids, are either playing like the regret signing their new contract (James) or they are not signing a new deal and rumoured to want to leave (Mount). And these were two players who have spoke of their desire to stay here, become leaders and captain.

On 17/04/2023 at 14:44, SwedishEntity said:

Out of pure curiosity: is Todd Boehly safe? I mean not all of the money spent is actually his.

Could Clearlake or whatever they're called somehow decide to tell him to f**k off from your club?

Boehly is behaving like someone who is not only desperate to save his reputation, but also his job.

Isn't Todd the owner, and not an employee?

3 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Isn't Todd the owner, and not an employee?

 Boehly is part of the consortium that owns Chelsea, but the club is majority owned by Clearlake Capital. They can decide to remove Boehly or not. 

Just now, Sconnie Blue said:

 Boehly is part of the consortium that owns Chelsea, but the club is majority owned by Clearlake Capital. They can decide to remove Boehly or not. 

Cheers for info mate

2 hours ago, axman2526 said:

Asking too much from the likes of Felix and Sterling.

Stirling, my least favoured player ever at Chelsea, level with Lukaku. Whoever sanctioned / advised these should have nothing to do with football.

1 hour ago, Kev56 said:

Stirling, my least favoured player ever at Chelsea, level with Lukaku. Whoever sanctioned / advised these should have nothing to do with football.

I believe the bloke who wanted Sterling to come to you is now the manager of Bayern Munich, so he's still involved in football.

Too much denial. “We just need a good manager..striker”.  etc… I can’t get optimistic till this changes. The other option is i’m wrong, which I’d love. Hope to be ridiculed for my views

OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH DRESSING ROOOM TIMEEEEEE

Todd Boehly and Behdad Eghbali are going to the dressing room @ NizaarKinsella

Clearlake Capital And Todd Bohley will destroy all the things Roman built if we let them be our owner for the next 10 years

 

we need a new owner and force them to sell them club

5 minutes ago, Dean said:

Too much denial. “We just need a good manager..striker”.  etc… I can’t get optimistic till this changes. The other option is i’m wrong, which I’d love. Hope to be ridiculed for my views

OK. Your views are ridiculous. 

Seriously though, the club is going through a regime change, not transition, regime change. And not just any regime change. We are talking polar opposites. Russia to USA. commy to Republican. Wholesale staff changes with no regard for the successful team that was already in place. Change for changes sake.

I think this takes a long time to resolve. I can't see us doing anything next season because we haven't got a team or a shape or an identity and no apparent leader's anywhere. We do need a new manager but only because Potter was was the wrong person in the first place. It was such a stupid decision to employ an inexperienced coach to take on a big club like  Chelsea. Pochetino or Zidane would have been better.

We need to whittle down the squad for the new manager so it becomes more manageable. The likes of Ziyech, Aubamayang, Pulisic and Felix and maybe Havertz, Cucurella, Sterling and Kovacic too. Lukaku is a big problem too because his wages are huge and nobody will pay anywhere near them. I'm pretty sure there's other stuff that needs sorting out too but but I have no confidence in the new regime to do the right thing.

We also need some strong characters on the pitch. Some leaders. I think Reece and Enzo are a good start but Thiago probably won't play so much next season so again that needs sorting. Probably Colville but he lacks experience. 

We also need a centre forward.

40 minutes ago, Dean said:

Too much denial. “We just need a good manager..striker”.  etc… I can’t get optimistic till this changes. The other option is i’m wrong, which I’d love. Hope to be ridiculed for my views

I think many of you would be surprised what a good manager could do to this team. 

No denying that he will get sacked eventually, as is the Chelsea way, but I'm sure someone could actually utilise these players correctly. 

Boehly you lardy Arse, get your clucking boots on, you helped make this clusterf**k, by not having a scoobie what a striker is, not your bring on Goal Kicker, a ducking Haaland type, and Potter not having the foresight to stick Auba in his CL Squad, I would still slot those chances we had specially the Kante one , SFL would of tore the netting out😡

Edited April 18, 20233 yr by Ballack & Blu

Leadership of having a good manager will be the starting point of turning things around, and keep Boehly out of the dressing room to give a post match team talk. Lets face it, if he kept Tuchel until at least end of the season or minimum the world cup,  have saved load of money in managers pay off, an easier integration for all the new players,, be in a higher position in the league, and possibly had a chance against Real ( or whoever we play in the 1/4 final). Get a good manager, let him focus on his job, support him in the transfer market by all means, and only judge him at the end of the season. The standard has reached new low so many times this season, so if we hire a good proven manager, can't see results go any worse even taking into account a complete change of system and personnel overhaul n the team.

10 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

I think many of you would be surprised what a good manager could do to this team. 

No denying that he will get sacked eventually, as is the Chelsea way, but I'm sure someone could actually utilise these players correctly. 

Genuinely, people forget how much better we were under Tuchel, with a worse squad than we have now. We got top 4 easily, and were a few penalty kicks away from a domestic double, not to mention winning the Super Cup and Club World Cup, and only losing to the CL winners in extra time due to a Modric wonder pass. All while we had a horrific injury crisis and massive instability surrounding the club.

And that's not even mentioning the season before, where he dragged us into top 4 with no pre season, a FA Cup final and winning the Champions League, outplaying the likes of Atletico, Real and City. 

 

People say 'trust the process' but Tuchel should have been trusted to handle the club's rebuild. Sacking him is the single decision that ruined this season. 

Edited April 18, 20233 yr by Drogba1

Burning money daily the Todd way!!! That consortium will be firing some rocket up his ass when they start to realise the big European money is not going to come in probability for a couple of Seasons 

1. Buy new players based on Manager A's recommendation. 

2. Sack Manager A. 

3. Appoint a manager worse than Manager A.......Manager B

4. Put all eggs into Manager B and watch the club plummet to its lowest ever position in 30 years. 

5. Sack Manager B. 

6. Appoint a manager worse than Manager B.....Manager C. 

7. Watch the club plummet further down to what we didn't no possible, a relegation scrape. 

4 hours ago, Kev56 said:

Stirling, my least favoured player ever at Chelsea, level with Lukaku. Whoever sanctioned / advised these should have nothing to do with football.

Both bought because Tuchel wanted them.

 

I think we are cursed this season and it is down to Boehly thinking he can out-smart the league with amortisation to get around  FFP.

If we remember back to the 90's our luck changed when Bates offered Hoddle training facilities after he was refused by Spurs, he then became our manager and attracted Gullit who attracted Vallii etc. 

Although Roman spent big he did it within the rules of the game and complied with FFP.

I am right this should correct next season.

47 minutes ago, Drogba1 said:

Genuinely, people forget how much better we were under Tuchel, with a worse squad than we have now. We got top 4 easily, and were a few penalty kicks away from a domestic double, not to mention winning the Super Cup and Club World Cup, and only losing to the CL winners in extra time due to a Modric wonder pass. All while we had a horrific injury crisis and massive instability surrounding the club.

And that's not even mentioning the season before, where he dragged us into top 4 with no pre season, a FA Cup final and winning the Champions League, outplaying the likes of Atletico, Real and City. 

 

People say 'trust the process' but Tuchel should have been trusted to handle the club's rebuild. Sacking him is the single decision that ruined this season. 

After the start we had under Tuchel this season I wouldn't have trusted him with anything.

2 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I think we are cursed this season and it is down to Boehly thinking he can out-smart the league with amortisation to get around  FFP.

If we remember back to the 90's our luck changed when Bates offered Hoddle training facilities after he was refused by Spurs, he then became our manager and attracted Gullit who attracted Vallii etc. 

Although Roman spent big he did it within the rules of the game and complied with FFP.

I am right this should correct next season.

Well Roman spent hundreds of millions before FFP was introduced.

And we ended up with a £1.5 billion debt.

But he didn't come straight in and rip the club apart like Todd has. I know which owner we all prefer !