3 minutes ago, abramovich said:

There are problems and then there's a catastrophe.

We're about to finish lower than we did in the worst season in almost twenty years under previous regime, while breaking all kinds of anti records along the way.

Yes, but it still doesn't mean we should start glorifying a regime that broke transfer records on Kepa and Lukaku while letting key players contracts run down.

Don't get me wrong Roman was (obviously) amazing for us all in all but he didn't evolve with the times and while his way did keep a winning culture at the club City and Liverpool were leaving us for dust in the league because they were simply doing things better behind the scenes.

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

Yes, but it still doesn't mean we should start glorifying a regime that broke transfer records on Kepa and Lukaku while letting key players contracts run down

At least they never ran us into severe financial trouble.

sh*ts really going to hit the fan this summer when we'll need to sell some of our most prized assets simply to comply with Premier League rules. Mount, Colwill, Maatsen and more are all going to be sold because we had to spend so much on "the best" talent from abroad.

 

1 minute ago, Argo said:

Yes, but it still doesn't mean we should start glorifying a regime that broke transfer records on Kepa and Lukaku while letting key players contracts run down.

Don't get me wrong Roman was (obviously) amazing for us all in all but he didn't evolve with the times and while his way did keep a winning culture at the club City and Liverpool were leaving us for dust in the league because they were simply doing things better behind the scenes.

Pointing out that the previous regime did things significantly better than the current one is hardly glorifying. I'd say our trasfer business over the last few years under Roman was very poor and our scouting system was non-existent in the same period of time. 

I wouldn't count Liverpool as an example of how far behind we've fallen, under Klopp they only won one PL title since we won our last and one CL, which we also won more recently.

City is a different matter. They spend a lot of money but for the most part they did a very smart business in terms of value for money. The real difference is Pep. Yes, the man always gets the best team in whichever league he goes to but you can't dismiss how brilliant and incredibly consistent he is.

 

10 minutes ago, abramovich said:

Pointing out that the previous regime did things significantly better than the current one is hardly glorifying. I'd say our trasfer business over the last few years under Roman was very poor and our scouting system was non-existent in the same period of time. 

I wouldn't count Liverpool as an example of how far behind we've fallen, under Klopp they only won one PL title since we won our last and one CL, which we also won more recently.

City is a different matter. They spend a lot of money but for the most part they did a very smart business in terms of value for money. The real difference is Pep. Yes, the man always gets the best team in whichever league he goes to but you can't dismiss how brilliant and incredibly consistent he is.

 

Pep is a big difference but the way they were being run was the big reason he went there and didn't look twice at us. We had 6 years to set a "Pep ready" club up and there's every chance he'd have picked us if the playing field was equal.

Liverpool may have 'only' won one title but they challenged hard for a further two (I'm sure we'd snap fingers off for 3 challenges and 1 win the coming years). I always use the last season to sum up the difference between both, they sourced an ideal fit and replaced Mane before he even left where we just looked at the top line and thought adding Lukaku to a fluid high pressing system was a good idea.

26 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

At least they never ran us into severe financial trouble.

sh*ts really going to hit the fan this summer when we'll need to sell some of our most prized assets simply to comply with Premier League rules. Mount, Colwill, Maatsen and more are all going to be sold because we had to spend so much on "the best" talent from abroad.

 

Liverpool nearly went bust in 2011 and only didn't because of preferential treatment from RBS.

All the money in the world and we end up with Gallagher and Havertz as our forwards chasing a 2-0 deficit in the quarter finals of the champions league. Clueless owners interfering with team selections and blowing wads of cash on mediocre players and mid table managers.

First Drogba, now Silva, turn of the ownership.

How long before more players, and the fans, see what they see? When we have sold off our talented young players to try and stop being hit by FFP? 

They are systematically destroying our club.

 

I mean when you consider the notion that certain players we've purchased in the past several months aren't tailored for the rumored manager he's bringing in, he's spot on. Where's Nkunku or Chilwell fitting with Enrique? Or Madueke and Mudryk for Nagelsmann?

Stop buying players for the sake of buying players, especially these young ones who won't make an immediate impact when we are on the bring of FFP disaster. 

1 hour ago, Argo said:

Pep is a big difference but the way they were being run was the big reason he went there and didn't look twice at us. We had 6 years to set a "Pep ready" club up and there's every chance he'd have picked us if the playing field was equal.

Liverpool may have 'only' won one title but they challenged hard for a further two (I'm sure we'd snap fingers off for 3 challenges and 1 win the coming years). I always use the last season to sum up the difference between both, they sourced an ideal fit and replaced Mane before he even left where we just looked at the top line and thought adding Lukaku to a fluid high pressing system was a good idea.

 They'd hired ex-Barca people Beguiristain and Soriano long before Pep and they were stockpiling players on his recommendations long before he arrived at Etihad, he knew where he was going in advance. Then they gave him a blank cheque to buy whoever he wanted while we were trying to follow FFP and were forced to tighten the purce strings. City, by the way, are still not in the clear with authorities vis-a-vis  their shady dealings, it goes back to the time we're discussing here.

I couldn't give a f**k about challenging for titles, nobody will remember who was challenging, but everyone knows who won. I'm not saying Klopp did a bad job, far from it, especially considering the financial limitations he had to work within, but in the end, when it comes to top clubs people only care about trophies won. Also, Klopp has been in charge all these years so he made all those decisions, including Mane replacement. If there's an actual criticism of the previous Chelsea regime it's that they never found their Pep or Klopp and never learned how to delegate those decisions to a top class manager with the long term plan.

28 minutes ago, abramovich said:

 They'd hired ex-Barca people Beguiristain and Soriano long before Pep and they were stockpiling players on his recommendations long before he arrived at Etihad, he knew where he was going in advance. Then they gave him a blank cheque to buy whoever he wanted while we were trying to follow FFP and were forced to tighten the purce strings. City, by the way, are still not in the clear with authorities vis-a-vis  their shady dealings, it goes back to the time we're discussing here.

I couldn't give a f**k about challenging for titles, nobody will remember who was challenging, but everyone knows who won. I'm not saying Klopp did a bad job, far from it, especially considering the financial limitations he had to work within, but in the end, when it comes to top clubs people only care about trophies won. Also, Klopp has been in charge all these years so he made all those decisions, including Mane replacement. If there's an actual criticism of the previous Chelsea regime it's that they never found their Pep or Klopp and never learned how to delegate those decisions to a top class manager with the long term plan.

Yeah this City side has been in the making since 2009. 

1 hour ago, Mod said:

 

I’ve said it before that a lot of people underestimate how our big squad is having a huge effect on us. Glad to see Thiago make it known in public

2 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

I’ve said it before that a lot of people underestimate how our big squad is having a huge effect on us. Glad to see Thiago make it known in public

What he says is spot on.

1 hour ago, Mod said:

 

Perhaps it'd be making the same mistake, but I think that he should have got the interim job. He's a legend!

Club is definitely at a crossroads. Not exactly confident that we will make the right decision, but I remain hopeful. 
 

I say I remain hopeful, but that is just how I am currently feeling. Ask me 35 minutes and I might say burn it all to the ground. Just a sad state of affairs at our club currently. I really hope the club starts looking forward now that the season is done for. Isolate the bastards that are leaving in the summer and get the tf out of the squad. Focus on the players that are in the plans for the future. 
 

I would also kick them out, or whatever terminology you want to use, if I wasn’t 100% certain I could sell.

Edited April 19, 20233 yr by chiefBlueCFC

3 hours ago, abramovich said:

There are problems and then there's a catastrophe.

We're about to finish lower than we did in the worst season in almost twenty years under the previous regime, while breaking all kinds of anti records along the way.

Exactly this these people have completely turned what a problem situation into complete meltdown disaster.

I am glad Silva has called the lot of them out!!

2 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I mean when you consider the notion that certain players we've purchased in the past several months aren't tailored for the rumored manager he's bringing in, he's spot on. Where's Nkunku or Chilwell fitting with Enrique? Or Madueke and Mudryk for Nagelsmann?

Stop buying players for the sake of buying players, especially these young ones who won't make an immediate impact when we are on the bring of FFP disaster. 

The worst thing they are still trying to buy more players now again.

I suspect more senior players will start coming out and saying similar to Silva especially if they know they are leaving.

Edited April 19, 20233 yr by El regreso

They seem determined to implement the US style on us, visiting the changing room after every game. I question if they respect any of our tradition or heritage.

Of course they don't, They rule the world, or so they think.

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

They seem determined to implement the US style on us, visiting the changing room after every game. I question if they respect any of our tradition or heritage.

This is completely ridiculous…having the owner who knows nothing about the game come in after the team have lost to speak for an hour. Not only does this undermine the manager but as a player Boehly is the last person Id want to see. 

There comes a time when things are going so badly that players stand up against the owners. Thiago Silva did just that! Ive never known a player to stand up against the owners, managers yes, never the owner. 20 years under Abramovich not one player ever questioned or spoke out against Abramovich. Todd Boehly has achieved that in less than year. 
 

Silva telling the owners to ‘stop’ speaks volumes!!! things really are that bad!

Has US ownership been good for any PL side in terms of consistent on the pitch success?

In terms of making money for themselves sure, and Pools owners do have at least the one PL and one CL to hang their hats on, but otherwise?

I just wonder if the mindsets and cultures of sports are just too different between British and American.

Apparently Winstanley and Stewart have been told to consider anyone who has not signed a new contract since the summer window, excluding James, or been signed in the January window, up for Sale.

I think I am right in saying that would mean only the following are NOT for sale:

 

Solnina 

 

Chalobah

Badiashile 

James

Chilwell

Silva

Gusto

 

Hall

Enzo

Santos

 

Mudryk

Felix

Madueke 

 

DD fofana

Going to try and inject some positivity here since the atmosphere has become all dire, doom and gloom, not just here but in almost every Chelsea space on the internet and out of the internet.

I don't believe the club has been set back by 10 years as most are saying because of the mistakes of the ownership. In modern football, things happen quickly. In the same way, you can fall from champions to mid-table, you can also rise from mid-table to champions (happened to us before). Dont think United and Arsenal fans thought they would be where they are last season and neither did us or Liverpool fans think we would be here.

We could easily go from having a sh*t season now to having an amazing one next season. It really comes down to the next manager we hire. Also will say again that I refuse to believe we have "wasted 600mil". At the moment everyone is sh*t because the team is sh*t. Even James who usually stands out isn't playing well atm. Honestly believe that with a new and ambitious manager, a lot of our players will come well. This isn't the first time that has happened at CFC.

There's nothing to play for the rest of the season so I'm going to just write off this season and remain optimistic for the future beyond because as football fans that's all you can do otherwise something you love is just going to turn into something you hate.

KTBFFH!

 

 

 

What has changed in the last 2 months in the project that a lot of people were happy to support ? 

Literally only the change of manager. They simply picked the wrong captain to navigate the ship. No changes to the actual crew. Destination still the same. Ongoing improvements being made to the boat both above and below decks. New captain being hired.

Presumably we all need to keep the faith, and sail staunchly through the stormy seas until we reach our balmy idyll in the tropics  🙂