5 hours ago, RMH said:

I wouldn't touch that little c**t of Grealish with a barge pole! We've got better versions of him in Mount and Gilmour. Other than that, I agree that we need a DM to sit Jorginho on the bench and play Kante and Gilmour alongside the DM. I have liked what I've seen of Rice, plus he is a Chelsea lad and friends with some of our players. But, if there's other good option and cheaper, I don't mind as long as we get a proper DM. I wouldn't sell Jorginho as he's shown valuable against some type of opposition and he could be used to rotate the new DM.

Yeah I dont like him, but then weve signed other players I didnt like. Its different when they are our d**khead player ha ha. In fact the only player we ever signed that I just couldnt bring myself to like was Samuel Eto`o. 

I dont see Mount or Gilmour being the same kind of player as Grealish, he`s got that something special to change games and plays out wide.

6 hours ago, Bob stark said:

No thank you. 

Ok, let’s spend 40m on some fancy french name! Something abit like Bakayoko perhaps...

Or we can look at truly world class English talents such as Drinkwater?

7 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Ok, let’s spend 40m on some fancy french name! Something abit like Bakayoko perhaps...

Or we can look at truly world class English talents such as Drinkwater?

Steve Sidwell on a free. 

11 minutes ago, dansubrosa said:

Ok, let’s spend 40m on some fancy french name! Something abit like Bakayoko perhaps...

Or we can look at truly world class English talents such as Drinkwater?

We can trust in the club to waste money on transfers. They always do and have got worse with every transfer window since Roman bought the club.

22 hours ago, loz said:

I think it's unanimous that...

1. We need a centre forward that understands the offside rule and has more bottle than France in times of war.

2. We need a new centre half who we can truly accept is the obvious first choice rather than opinions changing every week due to mistakes being shared around like Wayne Bridges bird at a Chelsea reunion.

3. We need someone in the front three who can open up defences with a bit of genuine quality rather than ponderous same old same old.

4. We need a midfielder who isn't Jorginho.

 

1. Tammy Abrahams and Giroud seems very likely to leave, while Werner is best used as a wide forward/second striker. We obviously have to try and get Haaland, wich will cost us close to 100m-150m.  My cheap option would be A.Belotti, who has 1 year left on his contract. He has all the attributes to succeed as a target striker for us.

2. I don't mind waiting another year, just keep T.Silva, Rudiger, Christensen, Zouma, "Azpilicueta". 

3. I think we just lack a proper center forward that can finish our attacks.

4. I agree. I think Franck Kessie (1 year left on contract) would be perfect for our physically weak midfield, he is very good on the ball a well. With him as DM we can drop a central defender and play another midfielder instead. Kante, Havertz, Mount etc would be more encouraged to join our attack, without having to worry about Jorginho getting destroyed behind them, if there is a counter attack.

1- I actually think our defence is ok, Varane if possible, but other than that not the priority for me.

2 - Declan Rice in midfield, already used to the Premier League so he can hit the ground running and a really good player with loads of potential. I also think he would jump at the move. If we pass on him I could see him ending up at one of the Manchester clubs instead.

3 - Like a lot of people I would love Kane or Haaland, but I feel one will go to Man City and the other will stay at Dortmund for one more year.Lukakau would be my next choice but if that isn't possible I say go for Danny Ings, a seriously underrated striker imo and another who could hit the ground running rather than the possibility of waiting for a year for someone to get used to the Premier League. I also think Southampton would sell for the right price.

4 - Trim this bloated squad somehow, it would help pay for incoming transfers and we could aim to have around 18 top players for each match rather than people being left out of squads but the bench full up with average players. This for me is one of the reasons why we are so far behind City, a lot of their subs would be starters for us.

Edited May 25, 20215 yr by 2211

8 hours ago, axman2526 said:

That one is a huge pipe dream surely?

Just a thought if Haaland goes to Bayern Munich with Kane to City, you never know.

16 hours ago, Luca Vialli said:

The problem there is the little German wins pens and worries defences, Bamford needs direct service and we're awful at getting the ball into the final third with direct/quick play.

I think Kane will go to City, Please throw all the money at Haaland because it looks like me might be the only ones who can afford him.

But that does not score goals.

16 hours ago, dansubrosa said:

Ok, let’s spend 40m on some fancy french name! Something abit like Bakayoko perhaps...

Or we can look at truly world class English talents such as Drinkwater?

Hazard can't play as role player. He need to play all the time to stay fit. 

Tactically one of our strength tbis season is our pressing, with Hazard you simply can't be a good pressing team. Sarri and Conte tried and pretty much abandoned their idea very quickly. 

16 hours ago, axman2526 said:

We can trust in the club to waste money on transfers. They always do and have got worse with every transfer window since Roman bought the club.

To be fair I don’t think we’ve signed any duds last summer. Hopefully more of the same this summer!

11 hours ago, Strider6003 said:

Just a thought if Haaland goes to Bayern Munich with Kane to City, you never know.

Choupo-Moting to Chelsea?

I'd clearly stay away from Hazard. Some things are better left in the past and the risk is too high imho. He wouldn't press and defend and still wouldn't contribute THAT many goals anyway so we'd still need a finisher who most likely doesn't press and defend that well too. I'm pretty sure we can bear one elite striker who hasn't got the effective workrate but scores goals and give other teams a nightmare but two would mean to start from scratch with our formations and playstyle - and then there is the big question about his fitness and injuries to begin with. Better save the funds for a proper striker and keep enjoying his moments from the past.

3 minutes ago, charierre said:

Choupo-Moting to Chelsea?

I recognised the name and now see he was at Stoke for a time, not exactly prolific. with 2 of his 3 goals this season coming from a CL match against his last team.

Think he should stay well away. 

12 minutes ago, Strider6003 said:

I recognised the name and now see he was at Stoke for a time, not exactly prolific. with 2 of his 3 goals this season coming from a CL match against his last team.

Think he should stay well away. 

Choupo is a great versatile back-up striker and extraordinary team-player / squad-player. Technically good, good work-rate, experienced and can score/assist and on top of that a funny guy who speaks loads of languages and brings positive vibes into the locker room - but only meant for those squads that have 1 absolute elite striker who isn't injured that much. Then it's important to have one experienced guy on the bench who doesn't complain for never playing (or mostly against weaker oppositions when the main striker rests) and who doesn't cost that much. Talents with the same attributes usually want and need to play instead of sitting on the bench of one of the AAA clubs.

 

I'm always defending this guy 😄 He helped PSG massively within last years CL campaign in Lisboa against Atalanta and shot two goals against PSG for Munich so he's not a bad striker at all. Is he linked to Chelsea? I'm not promoting to get him into the squad, just curious. Anyway, I highly rate this guy as an exceptional role player.

Edited May 26, 20215 yr by weetee

23 minutes ago, weetee said:

Choupo is a great versatile back-up striker and extraordinary team-player / squad-player. Technically good, good work-rate, experienced and can score/assist and on top of that a funny guy who speaks loads of languages and brings positive vibes into the locker room - but only meant for those squads that have 1 absolute elite striker who isn't injured that much. Then it's important to have one experienced guy on the bench who doesn't complain for never playing (or mostly against weaker oppositions when the main striker rests) and who doesn't cost that much. Talents with the same attributes usually want and need to play instead of sitting on the bench of one of the AAA clubs.

 

I'm always defending this guy 😄 He helped PSG massively within last years CL campaign in Lisboa against Atalanta and shot two goals against PSG for Munich so he's not a bad striker at all. Is he linked to Chelsea? I'm not promoting to get him into the squad, just curious. Anyway, I highly rate this guy as an exceptional role player.

That's who we need in bold no disrespect to Choupo, we do not have a good striker currently just misfiring ones.

1 minute ago, Strider6003 said:

That's who we need in bold no disrespect to Choupo, we do not have a good striker currently just misfiring ones.

I don't think somebody seriously considered Choupo for that tbh! 😄

One big question is what formation are we going to play?

Tuchel settled the 5-2-3 (defensively), 3-4-3 (offensively) pretty well but is he planning to continue with that? To be honest, I don't think we have plan B when things don't work out with this formation, every game when a team parked the bus against us we struggled to create chances. Sometimes it feels like we're lacking creativity in the final third, this season I think our most creative players are Mount, Ziyech and James. I really hope we will get more from Havertz, Werner and Ziyech next season, all this trio can offer us much more. Pulisic had a lot of games when he took a lot by himself, dribbling and beating defenders alone, which is good action but sometimes it was more than needed. 

Anyway, we definitely need an improvement because if we succeed to reach 2 finals, reach top 4 and maybe win the CL with current squad, then we have a very good squad. I do believe we need an improvement on CM/CDM's position, we need another CB, we need another winger and another ST. We should keep Werner, Havertz and add another attacking addition. Giroud and Abraham seems like both leaving, we might get a decent offer for Abraham.

Another CM/CDM so we could get an upgrade on Jorginho is a must. 

I think buying a CB is not needed because we have Tomori and maybe Guehi can be an option as well. 

------------ Mendy ------------

-- Christensen - Thiago Silva - Rudiger --

James -- Kovacic -- Kante -- Chilwell ---

------ Mount ------ Havertz ----

-------------- Werner -----------

 

---------- Mendy --------

James - Thiago Silva - Rudiger - Chilwell

----- Kante ---- Kovacic -----

Ziyech ----- Havertz ----- Mount

----------- Werner -----------

 

Options for 4-2-3-1 and 3-4-3 are pretty good, with a proper backup we can be one of the best squads in Europe.

Realistic for the champions of europe:

Inn:

Theo Hernandez (40m-50m). Lightning quick left back, that can challange Chilwells position.

Franck Kessie (30m, 1 year left on contract). Proper physical DM that can shield the ball and make forward passes under pressure.

Erling Haaland (100m-120m).

 

Out:

Alonso and Emerson (20m-25m)

Giroud (free)

Tammy Abraham (40m)

Tomori (25m) 

1 hour ago, comtrend said:

Realistic for the champions of europe:

Inn:

Theo Hernandez (40m-50m). Lightning quick left back, that can challange Chilwells position.

Franck Kessie (30m, 1 year left on contract). Proper physical DM that can shield the ball and make forward passes under pressure.

Erling Haaland (100m-120m).

 

Out:

Alonso and Emerson (20m-25m)

Giroud (free)

Tammy Abraham (40m)

Tomori (25m) 

 

I've heard that Dortmund is intent on keeping Haaland for one more year though. 

 

That said I would love to see Chelsea pick him up.  The only thing that bothers me is that I wonder if there isn't a systemic problem here that is hurting our attacker's finishing.  Werner was tearing it up in the Bundesliga, scoring 21, 21, 19, and 34 goals in respectively in his 4 years with RB Leipzig in all competitions with less appearances.  

He comes here and he's got 12 in all competitions with 7 more games.

 

 

27 minutes ago, Valpo said:

 

I've heard that Dortmund is intent on keeping Haaland for one more year though. 

 

That said I would love to see Chelsea pick him up.  The only thing that bothers me is that I wonder if there isn't a systemic problem here that is hurting our attacker's finishing.  Werner was tearing it up in the Bundesliga, scoring 21, 21, 19, and 34 goals in respectively in his 4 years with RB Leipzig in all competitions with less appearances.  

He comes here and he's got 12 in all competitions with 7 more games.

 

 

I don't think Dortmund is the biggest obstacle. It's a selling club and given the choice of 100m-120m this year, or 65m next year, then I believe Dortmund would sell. I'm more worried about wage demands and other stuff Raiola might be pushing for. 

Werner in his best season had a conversion rate of 28%, but in all the other seasons he has been below 20% and at Chelsea this season he's at 10%. He needs alot of chances to score. Haaland on the other hand has 33% conversion rate this season. He has all the attributes to succeed in the premier league, because he can both bully and outrun all the defenders.

 

Edited June 1, 20215 yr by comtrend

27 minutes ago, comtrend said:

I don't think Dortmund is the biggest obstacle. It's a selling club and given the choice of 100m-120m this year, or 65m next year, then I believe Dortmund would sell. I'm more worried about wage demands and other stuff Raiola might be pushing for. 

Werner in his best season had a conversion rate of 28%, but in all the other seasons he has been below 20% and at Chelsea this season he's at 10%. He needs alot of chances to score. Haaland on the other hand has 33% conversion rate this season. He has all the attributes to succeed in the premier league, because he can both bully and outrun all the defenders.

 

 

Interesting. . . where can you find the conversion rate stat?

1 hour ago, Valpo said:

 

I've heard that Dortmund is intent on keeping Haaland for one more year though. 

 

That said I would love to see Chelsea pick him up.  The only thing that bothers me is that I wonder if there isn't a systemic problem here that is hurting our attacker's finishing.  Werner was tearing it up in the Bundesliga, scoring 21, 21, 19, and 34 goals in respectively in his 4 years with RB Leipzig in all competitions with less appearances.  

He comes here and he's got 12 in all competitions with 7 more games.

 

 

Yeah I think it’s just him settling in a new league. I actually expect him to get 20 goals at the very least next season, in all competitions.

Same with Havertz, 15-20 goals.

21 minutes ago, Valpo said:

 

Interesting. . . where can you find the conversion rate stat?

https://www.squawka.com/en/comparison-matrix/

Select Timo Werner and then add the stats you want (conversion rate is under attack)

Whoever TT wants his 3 signings to be. He has earned that right.

For me it would be:

Declan Rice, Harvey Barnes and Dominic Calvert-Lewin

Camavinga

Haaland

Hakimi

Varane

 

Those would be my choices if I could wave a magic wand.