1. City

2. Liverpool

3. Spurs

4. Arsenal

5. Chelsea

6. Man Utd

...

18. Leeds

19. Fulham

20. Notts Forest

I'm really curious as to what Spurs and especially Arsenal have done to gazump us.

1 minute ago, Argo said:

I'm really curious as to what Spurs and especially Arsenal have done to gazump us.

I would venture a full season of Conte for the former and the signing of Gabriel Jesus for the latter.

At this current rate (provided we don't sign anyone new)

1.City

2.Liverpool

3.Spurs (possibly 2nd if Liverpool pick up a few injuries)

4.United

5.Chelsea

6.Arsenal

7.Newcastle

8.Leicester

9.West Ham

10. Wolves

 

 

17.Fulham

18.Everton

19.Bournemouth

20.Leeds

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

I would venture a full season of Conte for the former and the signing of Gabriel Jesus for the latter.

 

Arteta's system made even Aubameyang look sh*t and we're suppose to believe the poundland version will take them ahead of us?

8 minutes ago, Argo said:

 

Arteta's system made even Aubameyang look sh*t and we're suppose to believe the poundland version will take them ahead of us?

Just venturing a guess why Zeta made that prediction.

Poundland version lol Argo. Would be more funny if he was not an upgrade on Havertov lite and Jesper Wernabee.

4 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

Just venturing a guess why Zeta made that prediction.

Poundland version lol Argo. Would be more funny if he was not an upgrade on Havertov lite and Jesper Wernabee.

They had Aubameyang we had Morata and they still couldn't gazump us.

24 minutes ago, Argo said:

They had Aubameyang we had Morata and they still couldn't gazump us.

Not saying I think they will finish ahead of us. United have a better chance of doing so Imo.

Not convinced that Arsenal will be amazing this season all because of one pre season match and the signing of Jesus. They flatter to deceive every year. I do think Spurs will have a good season though. They’ve made some good signings. 

As for us, I was feeling quite optimistic but the lack of signings has put a damper on it. Maybe we’re over-reacting. I think 3rd or 4th is about right. Hopefully having Chilwell will be a massive upgrade and take us back to pre-Juventus form. 

I think we'll finish ahead of Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United. 

I don't think we'll catch City, but I can see us being 2nd.

 

1 hour ago, axman2526 said:

Just venturing a guess why Zeta made that prediction.

It is based upon a series of things I have seen with my eyes.

14 minutes ago, Zeta said:

It is based upon a series of things I have seen with my eyes.

What are the factors thay have led to them gazumping us? Genuinely curious.

2 minutes ago, Argo said:

What are the factors thay have led to them gazumping us? Genuinely curious.

It's less gazumping. More they are slightly improved I think, and we are all over the place and will likely fall down.

Although Arsenal will still be quite inconsistent, I think they have a good setup mostly, and play some good football. Jesus improves them a lot. And when they are fluid, they can beat anyone.

We on the other hand, are 7 days from the start opf the season, still needing 1-2 CBs, attackers, maybe midfielders. Need to sell or loan about 10 players. Our squad is unbalanced and weak. 

1 minute ago, Zeta said:

It's less gazumping. More they are slightly improved I think, and we are all over the place and will likely fall down.

Although Arsenal will still be quite inconsistent, I think they have a good setup mostly, and play some good football. Jesus improves them a lot. And when they are fluid, they can beat anyone.

We on the other hand, are 7 days from the start opf the season, still needing 1-2 CBs, attackers, maybe midfielders. Need to sell or loan about 10 players. Our squad is unbalanced and weak. 

 

I disagree they play good football (for the most part), there's a reason Arteta has been compared to Pulis.

We've also signed one of the best defenders in the world, one of the best inside forwards aswell as a £60m midfielder (around his cost if Palace owned him) returning. Failure to get top 4 (barring more obscene injury and ownership crisis) then Tuchel's job should be on the line in my opinion.

Arsenal and Spurs both had tailor made circumstances to overhaul us last season and still couldn't manage it. I'll happily accept the top 2 is probably going to be a big ask but I'm really not seeing the hype with the NL duo.

If Man City wins the league again and if Liverpool is second again it's literally not a very competitive league at all...

1 hour ago, Argo said:

 

I disagree they play good football (for the most part), there's a reason Arteta has been compared to Pulis.

We've also signed one of the best defenders in the world, one of the best inside forwards aswell as a £60m midfielder (around his cost if Palace owned him) returning. Failure to get top 4 (barring more obscene injury and ownership crisis) then Tuchel's job should be on the line in my opinion.

Arsenal and Spurs both had tailor made circumstances to overhaul us last season and still couldn't manage it. I'll happily accept the top 2 is probably going to be a big ask but I'm really not seeing the hype with the NL duo.

100% Tommy should be fired if we don't make top 4. He turned down Gabriel Jesus, he turned down Kounde. If we lack in the market and don't add others is partly on him as well.

4 hours ago, Zeta said:

1. City

2. Liverpool

3. Spurs

4. Arsenal

5. Chelsea

6. Man Utd

...

18. Leeds

19. Fulham

20. Notts Forest

1. Liverpool (and a move to an atomic shelter with no internet)

2. Man City

3. Arsenal

4. Chelsea

5. Spurs

6. Man Utd

...

18. Bournemouth

19. Forest

20. Fulham

Only thing I am fairly confident in predicting is a Liverpool title win.

I think Zeta has nailed it.

No-one tipping Newcastle to muscle into the mix ?

This was the table for the second half of last season : 

Edited July 30, 20223 yr by Sexyfootball

5 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

No-one tipping Newcastle to muscle into the mix ?

This was the table for the second half of last season : 

I considered it, but I expect them not to be there yet. Wishful thinking perhaps?

Our core squad is always competitive for top 4 but as it stands only barely so, we could come 4th, 5th or 6th as it stands.

If we sign a good striker or Broja plays a blinder then we can compete for 3rd, maybe even better.

Don't forget this squad was pseudo-competing for the title last season until the wingbacks got injured.

15 minutes ago, sonic90 said:

Our core squad is always competitive for top 4 but as it stands only barely so, we could come 4th, 5th or 6th as it stands.

If we sign a good striker or Broja plays a blinder then we can compete for 3rd, maybe even better.

Don't forget this squad was pseudo-competing for the title last season until the wingbacks got injured.

Its a huge drop from Kante, James and Chilwell in form, to playing Azpilicueta, Alonso and not having Kante in our pivot. These are some of the most injury prone players we got. Until we get better cover for these players, then we will struggle to get a CL spot. Problem is that we also really need another central defender and a forward as well.

35 minutes ago, comtrend said:

Its a huge drop from Kante, James and Chilwell in form, to playing Azpilicueta, Alonso and not having Kante in our pivot. These are some of the most injury prone players we got. Until we get better cover for these players, then we will struggle to get a CL spot. Problem is that we also really need another central defender and a forward as well.

The more we do the better our chances but I still think our squad as it stands now is capable of challenging in some capacity. As long as everyone is fit etc.

5 hours ago, Argo said:

 

Arteta's system made even Aubameyang look sh*t and we're suppose to believe the poundland version will take them ahead of us?

Poundland version?! Hahahahaha. Great joke.