6 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Never played for us did he? I think there's a certain attachment with the first club you play for and grow to love.

I guess we're about to find out but i wouldn't be shocked if his childhood support counts for nothing when it comes to what (he feels is) best for his career.

12 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Never played for us did he? I think there's a certain attachment with the first club you play for and grow to love.

No there really isn't. Its their careers. Their families. They do what is financially best for them and their families. If it coincides with their boyhood clubs happy days.

In fact it is quite surprising for a player to still hold fondness for the club that released him. Anyone that has been through it knows its pretty brutal on the kids and i think Rice himself said in one of the interviews that he took it hard as well.

11 hours ago, WhiteWall said:

No there really isn't. Its their careers. Their families. They do what is financially best for them and their families. If it coincides with their boyhood clubs happy days.

In fact it is quite surprising for a player to still hold fondness for the club that released him. Anyone that has been through it knows its pretty brutal on the kids and i think Rice himself said in one of the interviews that he took it hard as well.

Not always true, look at Kanre signing an extension at Spurs.

Joining Chelsea isn't exactly a bade choice either. Pay well, always challenge for silverware (a lot more than Arsenal) and the project is probably the most exciting in world football at the moment.

11 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Not always true, look at Kanre signing an extension at Spurs.

Joining Chelsea isn't exactly a bade choice either. Pay well, always challenge for silverware (a lot more than Arsenal) and the project is probably the most exciting in world football at the moment.

More like most risky in world football 

Apparently brighton want 100mil now, I gues we are probably going to pull out of this one.

42 minutes ago, Frankie8Lampard said:

Apparently brighton want 100mil now, I gues we are probably going to pull out of this one.

Yeah I call BS on that. Some slaps 75mill down they take it imo.

 

16 hours ago, palace_fan14 said:

More like most risky in world football 

what's risky about it buddy?

Its Caicedo or Enzo for me, don't think the two co-exist.

Wonder why Brighton are actively trying to sign a midfielder for RB Leipzig when they insist Moises is not for sale?

8 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

what's risky about it buddy?

You’ve been clever for finding a loophole and spending big but it now limits what you can spend over the next 7 seasons, so your relying on about 40% of these signings reaching their potential for you to remain an elite club. If it works out then smart but there’s a small chance this strategy can backfire  

10 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Its Caicedo or Enzo for me, don't think the two co-exist.

They can though; 2 different players. Its like having a Matic next to Fabregas.

8 hours ago, ducavis said:

They can though; 2 different players. Its like having a Matic next to Fabregas.

Both roaming CM's. We'd be slaughtered every transition with an entire attack running at our back 4. At least Matic was an anchor for either of Cesc or Kante.

6 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Both roaming CM's. We'd be slaughtered every transition with an entire attack running at our back 4. At least Matic was an anchor for either of Cesc or Kante.

I believe we will get slaughtered if the CMs have no tactical discipline. It's the very reason why Kante as a lone DM isn't effective. 

Enzo for 90% of the world cup acted as the anchor for Argentina. The thing that makes him bloody brilliant is that he has the technical ability and tactical awareness to play in a number of roles in midfield. You can either pair Enzo with an box to box agressor (De Paul) or a sitter (Paredes) and he will be equally as effective. 

Caicedo partners MacAllister doesn't he? Do they have issues in the transition? (Genuine question). 

 

Arsenal apparently bid £60m for him, time to step up Todd.

52 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

Arsenal apparently bid £60m for him, time to step up Todd.

It's blows my mind that Brighton want more than £60m for a guy they bought for pretty much nothing just over a year ago. I mean, he's like a field-to-field midfielder ffs 🙄

30 minutes ago, Hanzen said:

It's blows my mind that Brighton want more than £60m for a guy they bought for pretty much nothing just over a year ago. I mean, he's like a field-to-field midfielder ffs 🙄

It is mad. The money for players is insane. Did anyone know about Caicedo before he went to Brighton,  apart from Brighton's scouts. Benfica and Brighton are rinsing big clubs for their money

 

7 minutes ago, enigma said:

It is mad. The money for players is insane. Did anyone know about Caicedo before he went to Brighton,  apart from Brighton's scouts. Benfica and Brighton are rinsing big clubs for their money

 

They have every right to do so. It's supply and demand and young players as good as Caicedo are hard to come by.

3 minutes ago, OriginalS said:

They have every right to do so. It's supply and demand and young players as good as Caicedo are hard to come by.

A season or so after signing for Brighton for £4.5m every f**ker is after him, so I disagree they are hard to come by. Same as Enzo Fernandez. Probably why scouting in South America is key. 

Edited January 27, 20233 yr by enigma

15 minutes ago, enigma said:

It is mad. The money for players is insane. Did anyone know about Caicedo before he went to Brighton,  apart from Brighton's scouts. Benfica and Brighton are rinsing big clubs for their money

 

While I do believe the price Brighton want is too much at this point I've never got the argument that players have to play X amount of games in X leagues to be considered proven. 

It's that exact argument that had people unironically comparing Wan Bissaka favourably against Reece.

Edited January 27, 20233 yr by Argo

Bissouma looked good at Brighton, made the move to Spurs, and now look at him. Hardly pulling up trees. 

7 minutes ago, enigma said:

Bissouma looked good at Brighton, made the move to Spurs, and now look at him. Hardly pulling up trees. 

That is my worry.

17 minutes ago, enigma said:

A season or so after signing for Brighton for £4.5m every f**ker is after him, so I disagree they are hard to come by. Same as Enzo Fernandez. Probably why scouting in South America is key. 

Better scouting will definitly help. Sometimes the players themselves choose to go to these "smaller" clubs though as a middle step. Kante was also about £4.5m when Leicester signed him and only stayed one season before we got him.

55 minutes ago, enigma said:

It is mad. The money for players is insane. Did anyone know about Caicedo before he went to Brighton,  apart from Brighton's scouts. Benfica and Brighton are rinsing big clubs for their money

 

To be fair Brighton and Benfica don’t want to sell their players.  They’re happy with them staying and we have no right to dictate how much they are worth.  The ridiculous price is most likely to put clubs off buying them.  We’re the ones trying to disrupt their squad and plans for the season.  

I can imagine us putting a ridiculous value on Reece James if the likes of Madrid come in for him.

Thought Arsenal wanted Rice

24 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

To be fair Brighton and Benfica don’t want to sell their players.  They’re happy with them staying and we have no right to dictate how much they are worth.  The ridiculous price is most likely to put clubs off buying them.  We’re the ones trying to disrupt their squad and plans for the season.  

I can imagine us putting a ridiculous value on Reece James if the likes of Madrid come in for him.

Not to mention if it was a big deal to a player like Moises or Enzo then they should have insisted on a minimum fee clause that is realistic, like what Kante did.

I mean he was hardly a star when Leicester signed him but he and his agent had the right idea. The other two did not though. Had Enzo insisted on a 70mill clause he would already be a Chelsea player. Moises insisted on a 60mill clause? On his way to Arsenal.