I think we're now seeing Maresca's football... What we saw in the first half of the season was the Poch hangover. It was brilliant but had little to do with Maresca. I dont understand how I can go from buzzing after the wolves game wanting more games like that to actually not wanting to watch because the football is... meh... Sarri ball was better cause of Hazard. We have palmer and the enjoyment is being coached out of him.

5 hours ago, evissy said:

Enzo's football's been pretty good apart from this last patch where we have basically lacked finishing. Palmer's dried out, Jackson and Madueke are out and many others. Now that we have lacked finishing the players start doing other things on the pitch and that hasn't helped. Young lads still. They lack the belief.

Early on the season we scored for fun but the big problem was we couldn't control the game 90 minutes. That is why you need to be able to rotate the ball to a la Jorginho or Rodri to waste time and take wind out of sails from opponent players.

It looks bad when we do it now as we are not scoring. If we scored 3 early on against Leicester as we should have we'd love those back passes to hold onto a clean sheet. That is what best sides do.

Injuries and especially Cole's cold patch is hurting us bad.

Enzo is okay in my books. I don't know why people get riled over what he says. He's never said anything that bad. Inconsistent thoughts yes but nothing worrying.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Optimism is fine, blind optimism is unhealthy.

Where do you see blind optimism in my posts?

I see mostly masochism here. Not sure you have a saying for that.

4 hours ago, evissy said:

I appreciate your views but don't agree with them at a large scale. Same in reverse so I guess the world is at balance.

I can always throw 'the team is young' but resonates to no one. Same thing with Enzo 8 and Caicedo. Under the bus immediately because their pricetags were horrible. Now, two of our best players. That is what TIME and EXPERIENCE do. Think years, tens of games instead of two bad games.

Enzo Maresca is also FIRST YEAR PREMIER LEAGUE coach. Why doesn't that come into play into anything? No one says anything about it.

We have a super young and exciting squad with highly inexperienced coach. I think that has to be a massive consideration in any and every expectation there is towards Chelsea.

I still think the plan is solid BUT naturally risky. No doubt about it. This is also the FIRST time any big club has totally cleared house and REPLACED them with young prospects. No matter what Sydney says. No comparison to any other club with the stature we have.

The biggest risks are related to inexperience and age. Our Directors are pretty young, coach inexperienced and most players are inexperienced in England and in the league. Many are expected to win big matches at 18 or 19 years of age.

I like the idea of the shaving of the age profile because I think players and directors are more set for leading with data, new ideas, new ways of working AND they have a chance of growing quickly to big shoes together. All of the old feel/experience based work model is gone from house. This is something I experience in work life.

However I think we will buy some experienced players here and there where needed in the future.

What WE LACK atm is the fanbase's support. I guess everything takes time there as well. Young lads need to feel supported. Remember Caicedo being in shock and couldn't play at level because he got booed and questioned. Got over it and won fans over but not sure how it helped him.

But for fans to support a side, they aso have to buy into the manager adn playing style.

Enzo is a championship player sadly. His best games come against cup sides and lower division, premierhsip sides. I know people love him becuase hes Argentinian... but he's been a pile of gash and his private life has effectively held him back in blue.

Poch was a serial top four finisher compared to Maaresca and folk didnt want him. If a first year manager serves up this brand of football, I dont want him managing the club. I want the yanktards out more, but Im hoping when they f**k off they'll take the stain sat in the dugout. Maresca's football is anti football and its becoming obsolete.

1 minute ago, bluetrooper said:

But for fans to support a side, they aso have to buy into the manager adn playing style.

Enzo is a championship player sadly. His best games come against cup sides and lower division, premierhsip sides. I know people love him becuase hes Argentinian... but he's been a pile of gash and his private life has effectively held him back in blue.

Poch was a serial top four finisher compared to Maaresca and folk didnt want him. If a first year manager serves up this brand of football, I dont want him managing the club. I want the yanktards out more, but Im hoping when they f**k off they'll take the stain sat in the dugout. Maresca's football is anti football and its becoming obsolete.

Again here you somehow expect us to be Roman's Chelsea. We are not. Lower the expectations to a level they need to be.

You can shout we are Chelsea all you want but it doesn't make it so.

This is a different Chelsea.

Look at how Manchester United are doing holding onto their golden era. It is just sad.

Just now, evissy said:

Again here you somehow expect us to be Roman's Chelsea. We are not. Lower the expectations to a level they need to be.

You can shout we are Chelsea all you want but it doesn't make it so.

This is a different Chelsea.

Look at how Manchester United are doing holding onto their golden era. It is just sad.

No - im not expecting Romans Chelsea, we're not owned by him anymore.

However, I do want to be entertained watching Chelsea.

but I dont appreciate the club being forced into 1.5 billion pounds worth of debt to pay out "investors" who are essentially trying to find a way to sell the Bridge...

Let me turn it around.

Im delighted youve found comfort watching the past 3 months football..

Im glad you have no issue with the debt that's been forced onto the club,

Im glad you love the new owners.

Im happy you think there's nothing wrong and all is well.

Im delighted you think Maresca is the manager for us for the next five years.

23 hours ago, evissy said:

Reading this thread makes me feel very alien. After the new owners came in I have felt out of place in this forum more and more.

I am not 100% sure how the owners and directors will do with the club but I feel they have a plan as they have executed it in front of our eyes.

Not sure why people here are so anti-Enzo. Maybe that is the old reflex what was under Roman. A couple of losses and the coach is smoked out.

17 minutes ago, evissy said:

Again here you somehow expect us to be Roman's Chelsea. We are not. Lower the expectations to a level they need to be.

You can shout we are Chelsea all you want but it doesn't make it so.

This is a different Chelsea.

Look at how Manchester United are doing holding onto their golden era. It is just sad.

The owner's actually bought a Roman era club, not one that was from Roman's long ago past.

Literally, in the most disruptive and tumultuous season that any PL club has faced we finished top 4 and reached both domestic cup finals. .

That was the club they bought, we were playing in the CL , we had a top 4 CL winning manager , they sacked him after a couple of months., sacked his replacement , etc and not only that the club was debt free, probably the only top club in Europe to have no debt whatsoever. .

It's not acceptable that within months they set about destroying everything, racking up massive debts, breaking transfer records, removing experienced staff who oversaw transfers, it goes on .And plummeting the club away down the table..

Roman's ownership wasn't in the dim past, they bought Roman's Chelsea Football Club and wrecked it

2 hours ago, evissy said:

Again here you somehow expect us to be Roman's Chelsea. We are not. Lower the expectations to a level they need to be.

You can shout we are Chelsea all you want but it doesn't make it so.

This is a different Chelsea.

Look at how Manchester United are doing holding onto their golden era. It is just sad.

This sounds like you’re happy to accept mediocrity? Why should we not hold ourselves to high standards?

Capello summing it up perfectly, meanwhile we’re lumped with Pep lite.

29 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Capello summing it up perfectly, meanwhile we’re lumped with Pep lite.

Agreed. I watch football to be entertained. I love fast counter attacking football, with wingers and attackers who look to break the lines and attack with intent. It's what the game is all about. This endless procession of Pep-lites who just want possession possession possession are so dull. And it looks like we've got the most dull one of the bunch.

3 hours ago, bluetrooper said:

No - im not expecting Romans Chelsea, we're not owned by him anymore.

However, I do want to be entertained watching Chelsea.

but I dont appreciate the club being forced into 1.5 billion pounds worth of debt to pay out "investors" who are essentially trying to find a way to sell the Bridge...

Let me turn it around.

Im delighted youve found comfort watching the past 3 months football..

Im glad you have no issue with the debt that's been forced onto the club,

Im glad you love the new owners.

Im happy you think there's nothing wrong and all is well.

Im delighted you think Maresca is the manager for us for the next five years.

If in 3-4 years we are competing head to head with the Prem top teams and are a fixture in Champions league I will wear a crown here and answer to every single one of posts 'ha ha'. That is the next time I will enjoy my stay here in this toxic forum.

Can someone add an event to the forum calendar for 3 years time so we can see.

6 hours ago, Victor90 said:

I didn't even realise how detached I've become the last couple of months, it's not the results, it's the way we play, it's f**king boring.

Garnacho link following the City defeat was what did it for me.

Just no faith in these owners.

Edited March 12, 20251 yr by Sconnie Blue

On 11/03/2025 at 14:12, Scott Harris said:

This will be a long post.

The owners and directors plan is full of holes. There was no need to immediately put us in debt when taking over the club. They spent an absurd amount of money on kids that are no better than the players we sold and even some of the academy players we have let go. They say we need to sell players to comply with PSR, but then they go and spend stupid money on more young kids that have barely kicked a ball at senior level. We are desperate for experience to help these younger players, because without it, they have nobody to learn from and improve their game. Even players like Palmer are now suffering because he doesn't have a single player around him that knows what it's like to go through their first rough patch after such massive highs. A player around him to help him stay focused amongst all of the media attention around him. Then there is Colwill who was an incredibly bright young prospect on loan at both Huddersfield and then Brighton, but with us, he's not picking up any lessons that will improve him as a footballer, he looks like a kid trying to find his own way with nobody to give him any guidance.

They sack Tuchel for Graham Potter of all coaches, which led to the worst season I have ever experienced as a Chelsea fan, which we're still trying to recover from to this day. We bring in Pochettino, who I didn't rate, but amongst the chaos of the previous season and how the owners and directors were still handling things off the pitch, he clearly won some fans around and had the Bridge feeling a lot less hostile and depressed. Pochettino then QUIT his job as manager. That is something that we need to remember here, he wasn't sacked, he quit, which isn't something that happens often at this level of the game and tells me that there was something very wrong with this project, and I am sure selling Gallagher and then looking to sell Chalobah when both players had become key players under him was a big reason for this. Your job is impossible if your boss is telling you they are selling the tools you work with.

We bring in Maresca, and from day 1, he has been like a puppet for these owners. Trying to fool us fans and the media into believing their lies. He says Chilwell needed to be sold because he couldn't play in his system, I've never believed this for a second, especially seeing as he has played Gusto all season who is a very similar style to Chilwell. Like Chalobah, they wanted Chilwell sold for PSR reasons. Speaking of Chalobah, Maresca lied about him too. He said at the start of the season that Chalobah wasn't good enough to play in his team, then he says it was because of PSR when we came crawling back. You can add Chukwuemeka to this list too, a player Maresca said needed to go out on loan, when he was already arguably better than many players already in the squad. We were desperate for a top class goalkeeper, but Maresca on day 1 tells us Sanchez is his number 1. This clearly came from the top again, because I can't see how Maresca can say that so soon after starting his job. Any coach that can confidently say Sanchez is their number 1 and genuinely mean it shouldn't be anywhere near this level of coaching. Another lie he came out with was after Jackson got injured. I pointed it out myself a few pages back that he would put our lack of goals down to Jackson's injury, when it started many games before Jackson even got injured, and he did exactly that, in the very next game no less. Jackson was actually the main reason for it because he was missing easy chances and just generally playing like sh*t. I have experienced many coaches at the club, but I haven't seen one like Maresca that just lies straight to the fans face and thinks we're stupid enough to go along with it.

His football is also awful, and it was at Leicester too, something their fans were very vocal about, some of them even coming on here to tell us the same. The fans are sick of this type of dead football at the Bridge. We see all over Europe teams switching to fast, attacking football, but we cling on to this hope of finally looking competent playing out of the back when we are arguably worse than we were when Sarri first came in. We don't even have the players for this type of football, so why are we trying to force it? How can we trust this to work out when the tools in place aren't set up for it to work? Why isn't Maresca changing the game plan? We all know why, it's because he is one note. He doesn't have any other way of playing, and you will see it again against Arsenal on Sunday. Arsenal have been struggling for goals of late, most teams have been setting up very defensive against them and hit them on the break, and it's worked. Maresca won't do this, even though it's likely the only way we will get a result against them. We will play exactly the same way we have been playing for months now, even when it's obviously not been working.

Back to our owners. We have Boehly being a co-owner of a ticket reselling site that makes it harder for home fans to get tickets and the fiasco over the shirt sponsor is inexcusable. It's more gaslighting to the fans by saying they are waiting for Champions League football. Champions League football is never a guarantee, you can't take that kind of gamble. If this is the case, why are they making it so hard for that to be achievable? A bunch of kids, little experience, no striker, no serious goalkeepers, a rookie coach, yet they say they want Champions League before getting a shirt sponsor? It's nonsense. Also, they were the ones that took us out of the Champions League in the first place. I see no reason why they couldn't get a two year shirt sponsor. Something is better than nothing, at least some money would be coming into the club.

I know this is a long post, but there is a whole lot to unpack, and I am sure I have missed a few things too. I find it bizarre that you feel so alienated, you've witnessed all of this yourself.

A post worthy of more than 17 likes.bravo Scott.

3 hours ago, Zeta said:

Can someone add an event to the forum calendar for 3 years time so we can see.

Am sure Mod or Loz could but where is the joy in it?

I don't take any pleasure saying I saw how poisonous this ownership would be, due to Clearlake being involved, from the get go. Won't get any from telling Evissy "we tried to help you see".

I don't know, maybe we would all enjoy our football more if we could actually believe like he/she does? Maybe that would make watching this type of Big Enz ball good to watch?

14 hours ago, evissy said:

I appreciate your views but don't agree with them at a large scale. Same in reverse so I guess the world is at balance.

I can always throw 'the team is young' but resonates to no one. Same thing with Enzo 8 and Caicedo. Under the bus immediately because their pricetags were horrible. Now, two of our best players. That is what TIME and EXPERIENCE do. Think years, tens of games instead of two bad games.

Enzo Maresca is also FIRST YEAR PREMIER LEAGUE coach. Why doesn't that come into play into anything? No one says anything about it.

We have a super young and exciting squad with highly inexperienced coach. I think that has to be a massive consideration in any and every expectation there is towards Chelsea.

I still think the plan is solid BUT naturally risky. No doubt about it. This is also the FIRST time any big club has totally cleared house and REPLACED them with young prospects. No matter what Sydney says. No comparison to any other club with the stature we have.

The biggest risks are related to inexperience and age. Our Directors are pretty young, coach inexperienced and most players are inexperienced in England and in the league. Many are expected to win big matches at 18 or 19 years of age.

I like the idea of the shaving of the age profile because I think players and directors are more set for leading with data, new ideas, new ways of working AND they have a chance of growing quickly to big shoes together. All of the old feel/experience based work model is gone from house. This is something I experience in work life.

However I think we will buy some experienced players here and there where needed in the future.

What WE LACK atm is the fanbase's support. I guess everything takes time there as well. Young lads need to feel supported. Remember Caicedo being in shock and couldn't play at level because he got booed and questioned. Got over it and won fans over but not sure how it helped him.

This is just patent nonsense. You haven't addressed a single thing that Scott said in his response, and I like said earlier, simply regurgitated tired talking points.

The biggest issue though is, as Scott pointed out many teams, is the owners' (and their supporters in the media) arrogance, the idea that all these problems are part of some grand design that everyday Chelsea fans couldn't possibly comprehend. Everything is new, shiny, unprecedented and always just on the verge of success - so there is no need to hold them accountable.

You might buy into it but the rest of us are not so naive.

Edited March 13, 20251 yr by SydneyChelsea

6 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

This is just patent nonsense. You haven't addressed a single thing that Scott said in his response, and I like said earlier, simply regurgitated tired talking points.

The biggest issue though is, as Scott pointed out many teams, is the owners' (and their supporters in the media) arrogance, the idea that all these problems are part of some grand design that everyday Chelsea fans couldn't possibly comprehend. Everything is new, shiny, unprecedented and always just on the verge of success - so there is no need to hold them accountable.

You might buy into it but the rest of us are not so naive.

Why do I need to address Scott's post? I enjoy Scott's posts in general but my view is my view. I don't have to get an approval for it from anyone.

I think it is massively arrogant to expect Chelsea FC to be the same after such a massive change. The ownership changed and they made a total overhaul. We won the lottery with Roman and the era we were in. Let's be very thankful of that.

This is 2025 and the competition is on a different level. You can't just buy the league.

I also don't want to end up on a similar vicious cycle that Arsenal (after invincibles), Liverpool (since 90's) and Manchester United (after SAF) are/were on.

I want to have something new that only we do that will hopefully end up in great seasons and some trophies.

I think our plan is something new. That clearly is only my view here. To see the fruit of the plan is probably to suffer a couple of seasons. I am willing to do that.

13 hours ago, evissy said:

If in 3-4 years we are competing head to head with the Prem top teams and are a fixture in Champions league I will wear a crown here and answer to every single one of posts 'ha ha'. That is the next time I will enjoy my stay here in this toxic forum.

We're already 3 years in under the new owners buddy... Trust the process has seen five managers in charge while the squad has largely been gutted.

Im glad you trust the process, but I noticed last night that between Atletico and Real, there were four ex Chelsea players on the pitch playing the Champions league, a competition we used to compete in. Dave, Thibo, Rudiger, Gallagher. (all would improve our current side)

Gallagher scored the opener for Atletico, a player who wanted to remain with us, was sold simply for profit, and we then signed a player who spends six months on the bench and is farmed out on loan. If that's what you're asking me to get behind then no.

The reason we're struggling to hit Financial fair play is because of our new owners.

23 hours ago, evissy said:

Enzo's football's been pretty good apart from this last patch where we have basically lacked finishing. Palmer's dried out, Jackson and Madueke are out and many others. Now that we have lacked finishing the players start doing other things on the pitch and that hasn't helped. Young lads still. They lack the belief.

Early on the season we scored for fun but the big problem was we couldn't control the game 90 minutes. That is why you need to be able to rotate the ball to a la Jorginho or Rodri to waste time and take wind out of sails from opponent players.

It looks bad when we do it now as we are not scoring. If we scored 3 early on against Leicester as we should have we'd love those back passes to hold onto a clean sheet. That is what best sides do.

Injuries and especially Cole's cold patch is hurting us bad.

Enzo is okay in my books. I don't know why people get riled over what he says. He's never said anything that bad. Inconsistent thoughts yes but nothing worrying.

When you say ‘Enzos football has been pretty good’ I presume you’re referring to the period we shall dub the Poch hangover. Enzo has even come out himself and said that is not how he wants to play the game. Now as you’ll see the more time he’s spent with the players and implemented his own system the worse we’ve become. He’s rigidly set in his ways which are unfortunately depressingly boring.

If we aren’t going to win/challenge for anything which looking at the squad/manager combo I don’t think we will. Then we at least want to be entertained and Marescaball is not set up to be entertaining. It’s there to nullify a game of any variables.

Personally I look at the team we had last year, look at the additions we made in the summer and am wholly confident with how this season has transpired with Poch in charge we’d be 2nd.

Take Ange’s football when he’s got a fully fit squad, chaotic, never going to win anything but fun. Look at Iraolo’s Bournemouth again chaotic, probably not good enough to win anything but entertaining, hell even Glasner at Palace is playing free’er flowing football than us with better results.

With Enzo is charge we will never seriously contend domestically or on a proper European stage.

It is all due to owners you say..well yes. They own the club. Not sure what information you are bringing to the table here.

It is also down to the directors the owners hired. It is also down to Enzo who the club hired. And the players the club bought.

I am not telling you can't criticize the owners, Enzo or players. That is pretty much our job as fans in a forum like this.

However I don't think there is enough reasonable thinking here.

3 years in with the owners but the plan and the players the directors brought in is more recent.

7 minutes ago, evissy said:

It is all due to owners you say..well yes. They own the club. Not sure what information you are bringing to the table here.

It is also down to the directors the owners hired. It is also down to Enzo who the club hired. And the players the club bought.

I am not telling you can't criticize the owners, Enzo or players. That is pretty much our job as fans in a forum like this.

However I don't think there is enough reasonable thinking here.

3 years in with the owners but the plan and the players the directors brought in is more recent.

The cluster f**k starts from the top. You keep going back to the fact no one has tried this before but to put it simply that's because decimating a squad full of winners in place of a squad of children recruited by multiple SD's hired by owners that decided to lumber the club with 1.5B of debt while failing to do the very basics such as securing a front of shirt sponsor two years in a row isn't a blue print of success all for a limited coach to have fun with.

It is quite literally a circus.

37 minutes ago, evissy said:

It is all due to owners you say..well yes. They own the club. Not sure what information you are bringing to the table here.

It is also down to the directors the owners hired. It is also down to Enzo who the club hired. And the players the club bought.

I am not telling you can't criticize the owners, Enzo or players. That is pretty much our job as fans in a forum like this.

However I don't think there is enough reasonable thinking here.

3 years in with the owners but the plan and the players the directors brought in is more recent.

Can you at least understand that if you want a plan like this to succeed then hiring a manager as rigid as Enzo to develop these young players is the last thing you want to do? A player like Estevao hugging the touchline and trying to beat 2 players himself is not going to help with his development as that's not the player he is. If the plan to is ship them all out on loan and hope they develop then it's not really any different from what we were already doing under Roman.

If profit is the only concern rather than integrating them into the team, they have also made that harder than it needed to be with the amount of money they are spending on these young players. We have arguably the best academy in the world, all they had to do was focus on that while supplementing with the occasional £5m,-£10m Guiu like purchases, only breaking out the big money purchases for expectational talent like Estevao instead of spending 20m on a Devid Washington.

Edited March 13, 20251 yr by Remodez

6 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Can you at least understand that if you want a plan like this to succeed then hiring a manager as rigid as Enzo to develop these young players is the last thing you want to do? A player like Estevao hugging the touchline and trying to beat 2 players himself is not going to help with his development as that's not the player he is. If the plan to is ship them all out on loan and hope they develop then it's not really any different from what we were already doing under Roman.

If profit is the only concern rather than integrating them into the team, they have also made that harder than it needed to be with the amount of money they are spending on these young players. We have arguably the best academy in the world, all they had to do was focus on that while supplementing with the occasional £5m,-£10m Guiu like purchases, only breaking out the big money purchases for expectational talent like Estevao instead of spending 20m on a Devid Washington

7 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Can you at least understand that if you want a plan like this to succeed then hiring a manager as rigid as Enzo to develop these young players is the last thing you want to do? A player like Estevao hugging the touchline and trying to beat 2 players himself is not going to help with his development as that's not the player he is. If the plan to is ship them all out on loan and hope they develop then it's not really any different from what we were already doing under Roman.

If profit is the only concern rather than integrating them into the team, they have also made that harder than it needed to be with the amount of money they are spending on these young players. We have arguably the best academy in the world, all they had to do was focus on that while supplementing with the occasional £5m,-£10m Guiu like purchases, only breaking out the big money purchases for expectational talent like Estevao instead of spending 20m on a Devid Washington.

Palmer is doing pretty much anything on the pitch in terms of attacking half. Not sure how that applies to rigidity. I know Enzo's public image is being rigid and he probably is but if you look at Pep, he is probably the most rigid coach there is. I am 100% sure being rigid in terms of philosophy Enzo's picked that up from Pep as well although italian coaches usually are rigid in terms of things. How the rigidity is applied to the team is another question.

Profit is not everything in terms of young players. There is zero evidence of that. Deivid Washington could end up being a miss or he blooms in 2 years and we either sell him for profit or integrate him to the team. Don't judge him yet.

Chelsea youth is highly sough after commodity for a good reason. We have sold a ton of them and used some of them for the first team. It serves 2 purposes. Get new Chelsea players or get profit of off them. Win win. Every big club operate like so.

I think it is always contradictory to tell owners and coaches to f**k off because we are not winning and the same time insist to play the youth from Cobham.

10 minutes ago, evissy said:

Palmer is doing pretty much anything on the pitch in terms of attacking half. Not sure how that applies to rigidity. I know Enzo's public image is being rigid and he probably is but if you look at Pep, he is probably the most rigid coach there is. I am 100% sure being rigid in terms of philosophy Enzo's picked that up from Pep as well although italian coaches usually are rigid in terms of things. How the rigidity is applied to the team is another question.

Profit is not everything in terms of young players. There is zero evidence of that. Deivid Washington could end up being a miss or he blooms in 2 years and we either sell him for profit or integrate him to the team. Don't judge him yet.

Chelsea youth is highly sough after commodity for a good reason. We have sold a ton of them and used some of them for the first team. It serves 2 purposes. Get new Chelsea players or get profit of off them. Win win. Every big club operate like so.

I think it is always contradictory to tell owners and coaches to f**k off because we are not winning and the same time insist to play the youth from Cobham.

There's more than 1 position on the pitch and that's the one area even the most rigid manager in the world allows freedom in due to the nature of the role. In regards to Pep, you've answered your own question. Pep applies that rigidity differently. He is also more flexible than what we've seen of Enzo so far willing to sit deep and counter or play it long if needed.

I said if that's the goal, just a thought exercise. You've missed my point on Deivd Washington cause even if he suddenly turns into a 60m player it's irrelevant to what I was saying. My issue is entirely with the fee we are paying. We spent less on Fofana and he had way more experience. Spending less makes it easier to turn the profit and not risk the club running up too many losses. I assume this is a key part of the plan otherwise you run out of steam pretty quickly.

Your other two points I don't believe are related to what I said to be honest, probably just a general overall point. I agree with you but I didn't say otherwise.

London is blue with Matt Law did a special episode. They were talking about the number of points get CL. They both reckon we will need to get 15/30 to get CL the fixtures are below.

From looking at them, from the spurs game to Everton, that’s our 15 points there.

However can you really see us going on a 5 game winning streak? Seems unlikely

Profit f**king profit, great if you’re into football to make a profit. No football fan devotes his life following his team with the intention of making a profit. We go for the love of our team and to be entertained. Buying and selling players is part of the game we all know that. But the goal should not be to make a profit. Let’s not strive to be successful and win trophies and excite the fans, that’s not their plan. What we should do is play turgid boring crap football f**k the fans and make a profit. Maybe we should be jumping up and down to the we’ve make the biggest ‘profit cup’