2 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Report on Maresca threatening to leave Leicester last season.......

"Leicester City fans have responded to Enzo Maresca threatening to leave the club after victory over Swansea.

The Foxes won 3-1 at the King Power Stadium on Tuesday night to move 10 points clear at the top of the Championship. But Maresca’s frustration with fans boiled over after the final whistle as he threatened to leave the club."

From The Sun...

"despite looking certs to return to the Premier League at the first time of asking, the Italian coach’s methodical, possession-based tactics have not always gone down well with the King Power Stadium supporters.

Following Tuesday night’s 3-1 win over Swansea, Maresca made his feelings known after hearing groans among fans as they tried to build on an early lead.

He said: “I came to this club to play with this idea.

"The moment there is some doubt about the idea, I will leave the day after, it’s so clear. "

3 hours ago, Nibs said:

The difference for quite a while was Palmer producing match-winning moments and Jackson chipping in with goals.

Who's that? Is that the club chef?

Reading this thread makes me feel very alien. After the new owners came in I have felt out of place in this forum more and more.

I am not 100% sure how the owners and directors will do with the club but I feel they have a plan as they have executed it in front of our eyes.

Not sure why people here are so anti-Enzo. Maybe that is the old reflex what was under Roman. A couple of losses and the coach is smoked out.

7 hours ago, evissy said:

Reading this thread makes me feel very alien. After the new owners came in I have felt out of place in this forum more and more.

I am not 100% sure how the owners and directors will do with the club but I feel they have a plan as they have executed it in front of our eyes.

Not sure why people here are so anti-Enzo. Maybe that is the old reflex what was under Roman. A couple of losses and the coach is smoked out.

Yeah we're 4th, which is better than most were expecting at the start of the season

There have been a lot of dull performances but this season's hardly been a disaster. Sacking him if we get top 4 would be extremely harsh

6 hours ago, evissy said:

Reading this thread makes me feel very alien. After the new owners came in I have felt out of place in this forum more and more.

I am not 100% sure how the owners and directors will do with the club but I feel they have a plan as they have executed it in front of our eyes.

Not sure why people here are so anti-Enzo. Maybe that is the old reflex what was under Roman. A couple of losses and the coach is smoked out.

This will be a long post.

The owners and directors plan is full of holes. There was no need to immediately put us in debt when taking over the club. They spent an absurd amount of money on kids that are no better than the players we sold and even some of the academy players we have let go. They say we need to sell players to comply with PSR, but then they go and spend stupid money on more young kids that have barely kicked a ball at senior level. We are desperate for experience to help these younger players, because without it, they have nobody to learn from and improve their game. Even players like Palmer are now suffering because he doesn't have a single player around him that knows what it's like to go through their first rough patch after such massive highs. A player around him to help him stay focused amongst all of the media attention around him. Then there is Colwill who was an incredibly bright young prospect on loan at both Huddersfield and then Brighton, but with us, he's not picking up any lessons that will improve him as a footballer, he looks like a kid trying to find his own way with nobody to give him any guidance.

They sack Tuchel for Graham Potter of all coaches, which led to the worst season I have ever experienced as a Chelsea fan, which we're still trying to recover from to this day. We bring in Pochettino, who I didn't rate, but amongst the chaos of the previous season and how the owners and directors were still handling things off the pitch, he clearly won some fans around and had the Bridge feeling a lot less hostile and depressed. Pochettino then QUIT his job as manager. That is something that we need to remember here, he wasn't sacked, he quit, which isn't something that happens often at this level of the game and tells me that there was something very wrong with this project, and I am sure selling Gallagher and then looking to sell Chalobah when both players had become key players under him was a big reason for this. Your job is impossible if your boss is telling you they are selling the tools you work with.

We bring in Maresca, and from day 1, he has been like a puppet for these owners. Trying to fool us fans and the media into believing their lies. He says Chilwell needed to be sold because he couldn't play in his system, I've never believed this for a second, especially seeing as he has played Gusto all season who is a very similar style to Chilwell. Like Chalobah, they wanted Chilwell sold for PSR reasons. Speaking of Chalobah, Maresca lied about him too. He said at the start of the season that Chalobah wasn't good enough to play in his team, then he says it was because of PSR when we came crawling back. You can add Chukwuemeka to this list too, a player Maresca said needed to go out on loan, when he was already arguably better than many players already in the squad. We were desperate for a top class goalkeeper, but Maresca on day 1 tells us Sanchez is his number 1. This clearly came from the top again, because I can't see how Maresca can say that so soon after starting his job. Any coach that can confidently say Sanchez is their number 1 and genuinely mean it shouldn't be anywhere near this level of coaching. Another lie he came out with was after Jackson got injured. I pointed it out myself a few pages back that he would put our lack of goals down to Jackson's injury, when it started many games before Jackson even got injured, and he did exactly that, in the very next game no less. Jackson was actually the main reason for it because he was missing easy chances and just generally playing like sh*t. I have experienced many coaches at the club, but I haven't seen one like Maresca that just lies straight to the fans face and thinks we're stupid enough to go along with it.

His football is also awful, and it was at Leicester too, something their fans were very vocal about, some of them even coming on here to tell us the same. The fans are sick of this type of dead football at the Bridge. We see all over Europe teams switching to fast, attacking football, but we cling on to this hope of finally looking competent playing out of the back when we are arguably worse than we were when Sarri first came in. We don't even have the players for this type of football, so why are we trying to force it? How can we trust this to work out when the tools in place aren't set up for it to work? Why isn't Maresca changing the game plan? We all know why, it's because he is one note. He doesn't have any other way of playing, and you will see it again against Arsenal on Sunday. Arsenal have been struggling for goals of late, most teams have been setting up very defensive against them and hit them on the break, and it's worked. Maresca won't do this, even though it's likely the only way we will get a result against them. We will play exactly the same way we have been playing for months now, even when it's obviously not been working.

Back to our owners. We have Boehly being a co-owner of a ticket reselling site that makes it harder for home fans to get tickets and the fiasco over the shirt sponsor is inexcusable. It's more gaslighting to the fans by saying they are waiting for Champions League football. Champions League football is never a guarantee, you can't take that kind of gamble. If this is the case, why are they making it so hard for that to be achievable? A bunch of kids, little experience, no striker, no serious goalkeepers, a rookie coach, yet they say they want Champions League before getting a shirt sponsor? It's nonsense. Also, they were the ones that took us out of the Champions League in the first place. I see no reason why they couldn't get a two year shirt sponsor. Something is better than nothing, at least some money would be coming into the club.

I know this is a long post, but there is a whole lot to unpack, and I am sure I have missed a few things too. I find it bizarre that you feel so alienated, you've witnessed all of this yourself.

Edited March 11, 20251 yr by Scott Harris

8 hours ago, evissy said:

Reading this thread makes me feel very alien. After the new owners came in I have felt out of place in this forum more and more.

I am not 100% sure how the owners and directors will do with the club but I feel they have a plan as they have executed it in front of our eyes.

Not sure why people here are so anti-Enzo. Maybe that is the old reflex what was under Roman. A couple of losses and the coach is smoked out.

No one is arsed about a couple of losses, they're arsed about how truly boring the football is. Football is first and foremost entertainment, there's nothing entertaining about watching us now. We had Hazard to get us through Sarri's borefest. We had Palmer last season but this bald bellend has even reduced him to recycling possession.

2 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

This will be a long post.

The owners and directors plan is full of holes. There was no need to immediately put us in debt when taking over the club. They spent an absurd amount of money on kids that are no better than the players we sold and even some of the academy players we have let go. They say we need to sell players to comply with PSR, but then they go and spend stupid money on more young kids that have barely kicked a ball at senior level. We are desperate for experience to help these younger players, because without it, they have nobody to learn from and improve their game. Even players like Palmer are now suffering because he doesn't have a single player around him that knows what it's like to go through their first rough patch after such massive highs. A player around him to help him stay focused amongst all of the media attention around him. Then there is Colwill who was an incredibly bright young prospect on loan at both Huddersfield and then Brighton, but with us, he's not picking up any lessons that will improve him as a footballer, he looks like a kid trying to find his own way with nobody to give him any guidance.

They sack Tuchel for Graham Potter of all coaches, which led to the worst season I have ever experienced as a Chelsea fan, which we're still trying to recover from to this day. We bring in Pochettino, who I didn't rate, but amongst the chaos of the previous season and how the owners and directors were still handling things off the pitch, he clearly won some fans around and had the Bridge feeling a lot less hostile and depressed. Pochettino then QUIT his job as manager. That is something that we need to remember here, he wasn't sacked, he quit, which isn't something that happens often at this level of the game and tells me that there was something very wrong with this project, and I am sure selling Gallagher and then looking to sell Chalobah when both players had become key players under him was a big reason for this. Your job is impossible if your boss is telling you they are selling the tools you work with.

We bring in Maresca, and from day 1, he has been like a puppet for these owners. Trying to fool us fans and the media into believing their lies. He says Chilwell needed to be sold because he couldn't play in his system, I've never believed this for a second, especially seeing as he has played Gusto all season who is a very similar style to Chilwell. Like Chalobah, they wanted Chilwell sold for PSR reasons. Speaking of Chalobah, Maresca lied about him too. He said at the start of the season that Chalobah wasn't good enough to play in his team, then he says it was because of PSR when we came crawling back. You can add Chukwuemeka to this list too, a player Maresca said needed to go out on loan, when he was already arguably better than many players already in the squad. We were desperate for a top class goalkeeper, but Maresca on day 1 tells us Sanchez is his number 1. This clearly came from the top again, because I can't see how Maresca can say that so soon after starting his job. Any coach that can confidently say Sanchez is their number 1 and genuinely mean it shouldn't be anywhere near this level of coaching. Another lie he came out with was after Jackson got injured. I pointed it out myself a few pages back that he would put our lack of goals down to Jackson's injury, when it started many games before Jackson even got injured, and he did exactly that, in the very next game no less. Jackson was actually the main reason for it because he was missing easy chances and just generally playing like sh*t. I have experienced many coaches at the club, but I haven't seen one like Maresca that just lies straight to the fans face and thinks we're stupid enough to go along with it.

His football is also awful, and it was at Leicester too, something their fans were very vocal about, some of them even coming on here to tell us the same. The fans are sick of this type of dead football at the Bridge. We see all over Europe teams switching to fast, attacking football, but we cling on to this hope of finally looking competent playing out of the back when we are arguably worse than we were when Sarri first came in. We don't even have the players for this type of football, so why are we trying to force it? How can we trust this to work out when the tools in place aren't set up for it to work? Why isn't Maresca changing the game plan? We all know why, it's because he is one note. He doesn't have any other way of playing, and you will see it again against Arsenal on Sunday. Arsenal have been struggling for goals of late, most teams have been setting up very defensive against them and hit them on the break, and it's worked. Maresca won't do this, even though it's likely the only way we will get a result against them. We will play exactly the same way we have been playing for months now, even when it's obviously not been working.

Back to our owners. We have Boehly being a co-owner of a ticket reselling site that makes it harder for home fans to get tickets and the fiasco over the shirt sponsor is inexcusable. It's more gaslighting to the fans by saying they are waiting for Champions League football. Champions League football is never a guarantee, you can't take that kind of gamble. If this is the case, why are they making it so hard for that to be achievable? A bunch of kids, little experience, no striker, no serious goalkeepers, a rookie coach, yet they say they want Champions League before getting a shirt sponsor? It's nonsense. Also, they were the ones that took us out of the Champions League in the first place. I see no reason why they couldn't get a two year shirt sponsor. Something is better than nothing, at least some money would be coming into the club.

I know this is a long post, but there is a whole lot to unpack, and I am sure I have missed a few things too. I find it bizarre that you feel so alienated, you've witnessed all of this yourself.

What an outstanding post. Wish you'd delivered this on Talksport instead of the guy that got roasted by the Jordan and White clowns.

3 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:

What an outstanding post. Wish you'd delivered this on Talksport instead of the guy that got roasted by the Jordan and White clowns.

Heartily concur and I am eagerly awaiting the rebuttal from Evissy LOL

10 hours ago, evissy said:

Reading this thread makes me feel very alien. After the new owners came in I have felt out of place in this forum more and more.

I am not 100% sure how the owners and directors will do with the club but I feel they have a plan as they have executed it in front of our eyes.

Not sure why people here are so anti-Enzo. Maybe that is the old reflex what was under Roman. A couple of losses and the coach is smoked out.

On paper we’re 4th which is an improvement, no doubt.

But as a supporter, football is a spectators game and a major part of that is enjoying it.

Have you seen the football that’s we’re playing? It’s the most dire eye wateringly boring version of the game ever presented. Then add the fact that Maresca had the absolute gall to threaten to drop players for attempting to do something creative or attacking alongside bemoaning the supporters for not being filled with enthusiasm at the 27th back pass to the GK from the edge of the opposition box and I think it’s quite obvious.

Scott has summed up the Owners issue quite well (although I do believe if it was Todd in commanding control as opposed to Clearlake we’d be a hell of a lot more successful)

Genuinely a shame we couldn't get Luis Enrique or Hansi Flick when they were available

Every year the top 4 is not settled until the final couple of rounds, so I'm not counting us in ( or out) just yet. The weekend game is huge, Arsenal probably will rest half a team tomorrow for the weekend, and will be desperate to win to keep that slim hop up. A point would be valuable, but will be tough.

8 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Yeah we're 4th, which is better than most were expecting at the start of the season

Better than expected??? Are you talking about last season or this season?

11 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

This will be a long post.

The owners and directors plan is full of holes. There was no need to immediately put us in debt when taking over the club. They spent an absurd amount of money on kids that are no better than the players we sold and even some of the academy players we have let go. They say we need to sell players to comply with PSR, but then they go and spend stupid money on more young kids that have barely kicked a ball at senior level. We are desperate for experience to help these younger players, because without it, they have nobody to learn from and improve their game. Even players like Palmer are now suffering because he doesn't have a single player around him that knows what it's like to go through their first rough patch after such massive highs. A player around him to help him stay focused amongst all of the media attention around him. Then there is Colwill who was an incredibly bright young prospect on loan at both Huddersfield and then Brighton, but with us, he's not picking up any lessons that will improve him as a footballer, he looks like a kid trying to find his own way with nobody to give him any guidance.

They sack Tuchel for Graham Potter of all coaches, which led to the worst season I have ever experienced as a Chelsea fan, which we're still trying to recover from to this day. We bring in Pochettino, who I didn't rate, but amongst the chaos of the previous season and how the owners and directors were still handling things off the pitch, he clearly won some fans around and had the Bridge feeling a lot less hostile and depressed. Pochettino then QUIT his job as manager. That is something that we need to remember here, he wasn't sacked, he quit, which isn't something that happens often at this level of the game and tells me that there was something very wrong with this project, and I am sure selling Gallagher and then looking to sell Chalobah when both players had become key players under him was a big reason for this. Your job is impossible if your boss is telling you they are selling the tools you work with.

We bring in Maresca, and from day 1, he has been like a puppet for these owners. Trying to fool us fans and the media into believing their lies. He says Chilwell needed to be sold because he couldn't play in his system, I've never believed this for a second, especially seeing as he has played Gusto all season who is a very similar style to Chilwell. Like Chalobah, they wanted Chilwell sold for PSR reasons. Speaking of Chalobah, Maresca lied about him too. He said at the start of the season that Chalobah wasn't good enough to play in his team, then he says it was because of PSR when we came crawling back. You can add Chukwuemeka to this list too, a player Maresca said needed to go out on loan, when he was already arguably better than many players already in the squad. We were desperate for a top class goalkeeper, but Maresca on day 1 tells us Sanchez is his number 1. This clearly came from the top again, because I can't see how Maresca can say that so soon after starting his job. Any coach that can confidently say Sanchez is their number 1 and genuinely mean it shouldn't be anywhere near this level of coaching. Another lie he came out with was after Jackson got injured. I pointed it out myself a few pages back that he would put our lack of goals down to Jackson's injury, when it started many games before Jackson even got injured, and he did exactly that, in the very next game no less. Jackson was actually the main reason for it because he was missing easy chances and just generally playing like sh*t. I have experienced many coaches at the club, but I haven't seen one like Maresca that just lies straight to the fans face and thinks we're stupid enough to go along with it.

His football is also awful, and it was at Leicester too, something their fans were very vocal about, some of them even coming on here to tell us the same. The fans are sick of this type of dead football at the Bridge. We see all over Europe teams switching to fast, attacking football, but we cling on to this hope of finally looking competent playing out of the back when we are arguably worse than we were when Sarri first came in. We don't even have the players for this type of football, so why are we trying to force it? How can we trust this to work out when the tools in place aren't set up for it to work? Why isn't Maresca changing the game plan? We all know why, it's because he is one note. He doesn't have any other way of playing, and you will see it again against Arsenal on Sunday. Arsenal have been struggling for goals of late, most teams have been setting up very defensive against them and hit them on the break, and it's worked. Maresca won't do this, even though it's likely the only way we will get a result against them. We will play exactly the same way we have been playing for months now, even when it's obviously not been working.

Back to our owners. We have Boehly being a co-owner of a ticket reselling site that makes it harder for home fans to get tickets and the fiasco over the shirt sponsor is inexcusable. It's more gaslighting to the fans by saying they are waiting for Champions League football. Champions League football is never a guarantee, you can't take that kind of gamble. If this is the case, why are they making it so hard for that to be achievable? A bunch of kids, little experience, no striker, no serious goalkeepers, a rookie coach, yet they say they want Champions League before getting a shirt sponsor? It's nonsense. Also, they were the ones that took us out of the Champions League in the first place. I see no reason why they couldn't get a two year shirt sponsor. Something is better than nothing, at least some money would be coming into the club.

I know this is a long post, but there is a whole lot to unpack, and I am sure I have missed a few things too. I find it bizarre that you feel so alienated, you've witnessed all of this yourself.

Fantastic post.

One more point to add would be his constant de-motivating talks he gives in the media. Seeing him say we weren't in the title race when we were on Liverpool's heels. then saying top 4 isn't the target and we are ahead of schedule when we were comfortably top 2/3. I'm still half expecting him to come out and say the conference league isn't a priority.

13 hours ago, Drogba1 said:

Yeah we're 4th, which is better than most were expecting at the start of the season

There have been a lot of dull performances but this season's hardly been a disaster. Sacking him if we get top 4 would be extremely harsh

4th is not an achievement, this where we should be especially now teams like City and Spurs have fallen off.

I think Maresca will be gone at the end of the season. He isnt enhancing the value of individual players nor is he comfortably securing Champions league income.

Hes been very good on towing the line but its not enough. It can only take him so far in the eyes of the shareholders.

Edited March 12, 20251 yr by OneTommyLangley

Enzo's football's been pretty good apart from this last patch where we have basically lacked finishing. Palmer's dried out, Jackson and Madueke are out and many others. Now that we have lacked finishing the players start doing other things on the pitch and that hasn't helped. Young lads still. They lack the belief.

Early on the season we scored for fun but the big problem was we couldn't control the game 90 minutes. That is why you need to be able to rotate the ball to a la Jorginho or Rodri to waste time and take wind out of sails from opponent players.

It looks bad when we do it now as we are not scoring. If we scored 3 early on against Leicester as we should have we'd love those back passes to hold onto a clean sheet. That is what best sides do.

Injuries and especially Cole's cold patch is hurting us bad.

Enzo is okay in my books. I don't know why people get riled over what he says. He's never said anything that bad. Inconsistent thoughts yes but nothing worrying.

12 minutes ago, evissy said:

Enzo's football's been pretty good apart from this last patch where we have basically lacked finishing. Palmer's dried out, Jackson and Madueke are out and many others. Now that we have lacked finishing the players start doing other things on the pitch and that hasn't helped. Young lads still. They lack the belief.

Early on the season we scored for fun but the big problem was we couldn't control the game 90 minutes. That is why you need to be able to rotate the ball to a la Jorginho or Rodri to waste time and take wind out of sails from opponent players.

It looks bad when we do it now as we are not scoring. If we scored 3 early on against Leicester as we should have we'd love those back passes to hold onto a clean sheet. That is what best sides do.

Injuries and especially Cole's cold patch is hurting us bad.

Enzo is okay in my books. I don't know why people get riled over what he says. He's never said anything that bad. Inconsistent thoughts yes but nothing worrying.

Last patch? You mean since we last put in a decent performance beginning of December? 3 months ago. That's a pretty long patch with no sign of improving.

Simple fact is, we are playing some of the most dull, unambitous football I've ever seen. Far worse than Sarriball. And it's not that we're in a slump. He's come out and said this is how he wants to play. The players will be replaced if they don't do it. I've had enough. Don't care if we're 4th.

Edit: This isn't a "patch". This is what he wants. The start of the season was a "patch". This is how it will be from now on unless he's changed.

Edited March 12, 20251 yr by Zeta

20 minutes ago, evissy said:

Enzo's football's been pretty good apart from this last patch where we have basically lacked finishing.

Our last good performance was 19/12 against Shamrock Rovers. There's been 3 months and 15 games since then, this is half the season.

22 minutes ago, evissy said:

Palmer's dried out, Jackson and Madueke are out and many others. Now that we have lacked finishing the players start doing other things on the pitch and that hasn't helped. Young lads still. They lack the belief.

Palmer dried out because Maresca can't think of a plan B for him. He expects to keep throwing him into the line up being man marked by two holding midfielders and for something to happen. What 'other things' are the players doing on the pitch? They're doing the game plan they're instructed to do.

24 minutes ago, evissy said:

Early on the season we scored for fun but the big problem was we couldn't control the game 90 minutes. That is why you need to be able to rotate the ball to a la Jorginho or Rodri to waste time and take wind out of sails from opponent players.

Early on in the season we were playing much quicker and more transitional. Maresca has even come out and publicly said this isn't how he wants to play. Taking the wind out of the opponent is great when you're 2-0 up and want to manage the game, why on earth would we want to manage a 0-0 when the opposition is sat back?

25 minutes ago, evissy said:

It looks bad when we do it now as we are not scoring. If we scored 3 early on against Leicester as we should have we'd love those back passes to hold onto a clean sheet. That is what best sides do.

If my Auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. What 3 early chances are these? We created half chances outside of a penalty. We didn't score and still we passed backwards with no intention to attack the opposition.

27 minutes ago, evissy said:

Injuries and especially Cole's cold patch is hurting us bad.

Enzo is okay in my books. I don't know why people get riled over what he says. He's never said anything that bad. Inconsistent thoughts yes but nothing worrying.

Injuries have hurt us but we had much more injuries last season, weak excuse. Cole's cold patch is due to the manager.

He consistently downplays the teams ambitions, i've never seen a manager be able to consistently say the wrong thing in every press conference and come away with a more demotivated squad.

Blokes a cabbage, f**k him off.

58 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Our last good performance was 19/12 against Shamrock Rovers. There's been 3 months and 15 games since then, this is half the season.

Palmer dried out because Maresca can't think of a plan B for him. He expects to keep throwing him into the line up being man marked by two holding midfielders and for something to happen. What 'other things' are the players doing on the pitch? They're doing the game plan they're instructed to do.

Early on in the season we were playing much quicker and more transitional. Maresca has even come out and publicly said this isn't how he wants to play. Taking the wind out of the opponent is great when you're 2-0 up and want to manage the game, why on earth would we want to manage a 0-0 when the opposition is sat back?

If my Auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. What 3 early chances are these? We created half chances outside of a penalty. We didn't score and still we passed backwards with no intention to attack the opposition.

Injuries have hurt us but we had much more injuries last season, weak excuse. Cole's cold patch is due to the manager.

He consistently downplays the teams ambitions, i've never seen a manager be able to consistently say the wrong thing in every press conference and come away with a more demotivated squad.

Blokes a cabbage, f**k him off.

1 hour ago, evissy said:

Enzo's football's been pretty good apart from this last patch where we have basically lacked finishing. Palmer's dried out, Jackson and Madueke are out and many others. Now that we have lacked finishing the players start doing other things on the pitch and that hasn't helped. Young lads still. They lack the belief.

Early on the season we scored for fun but the big problem was we couldn't control the game 90 minutes. That is why you need to be able to rotate the ball to a la Jorginho or Rodri to waste time and take wind out of sails from opponent players.

It looks bad when we do it now as we are not scoring. If we scored 3 early on against Leicester as we should have we'd love those back passes to hold onto a clean sheet. That is what best sides do.

Injuries and especially Cole's cold patch is hurting us bad.

Enzo is okay in my books. I don't know why people get riled over what he says. He's never said anything that bad. Inconsistent thoughts yes but nothing worrying.

What we are seeing now is Enzo's football, the performances before was relics left over from Poch's regin while he was still trying to get the team to perform his way. He has all but confirmed this himself.

Said it in the Jackson thread, Jackson is vital to how Maresca wants us to play. Our interest in Delap is so obvious given the way he also likes to drop deep to collect the ball.

Back then we were just missing a sh*t load of chances. No Jackson = slower tempo football given Maresca doesn't like to play it direct.

I appreciate your views but don't agree with them at a large scale. Same in reverse so I guess the world is at balance.

I can always throw 'the team is young' but resonates to no one. Same thing with Enzo 8 and Caicedo. Under the bus immediately because their pricetags were horrible. Now, two of our best players. That is what TIME and EXPERIENCE do. Think years, tens of games instead of two bad games.

Enzo Maresca is also FIRST YEAR PREMIER LEAGUE coach. Why doesn't that come into play into anything? No one says anything about it.

We have a super young and exciting squad with highly inexperienced coach. I think that has to be a massive consideration in any and every expectation there is towards Chelsea.

I still think the plan is solid BUT naturally risky. No doubt about it. This is also the FIRST time any big club has totally cleared house and REPLACED them with young prospects. No matter what Sydney says. No comparison to any other club with the stature we have.

The biggest risks are related to inexperience and age. Our Directors are pretty young, coach inexperienced and most players are inexperienced in England and in the league. Many are expected to win big matches at 18 or 19 years of age.

I like the idea of the shaving of the age profile because I think players and directors are more set for leading with data, new ideas, new ways of working AND they have a chance of growing quickly to big shoes together. All of the old feel/experience based work model is gone from house. This is something I experience in work life.

However I think we will buy some experienced players here and there where needed in the future.

What WE LACK atm is the fanbase's support. I guess everything takes time there as well. Young lads need to feel supported. Remember Caicedo being in shock and couldn't play at level because he got booed and questioned. Got over it and won fans over but not sure how it helped him.

3 hours ago, evissy said:

I appreciate your views but don't agree with them at a large scale. Same in reverse so I guess the world is at balance.

I can always throw 'the team is young' but resonates to no one. Same thing with Enzo 8 and Caicedo. Under the bus immediately because their pricetags were horrible. Now, two of our best players. That is what TIME and EXPERIENCE do. Think years, tens of games instead of two bad games.

Enzo Maresca is also FIRST YEAR PREMIER LEAGUE coach. Why doesn't that come into play into anything? No one says anything about it.

We have a super young and exciting squad with highly inexperienced coach. I think that has to be a massive consideration in any and every expectation there is towards Chelsea.

I still think the plan is solid BUT naturally risky. No doubt about it. This is also the FIRST time any big club has totally cleared house and REPLACED them with young prospects. No matter what Sydney says. No comparison to any other club with the stature we have.

The biggest risks are related to inexperience and age. Our Directors are pretty young, coach inexperienced and most players are inexperienced in England and in the league. Many are expected to win big matches at 18 or 19 years of age.

I like the idea of the shaving of the age profile because I think players and directors are more set for leading with data, new ideas, new ways of working AND they have a chance of growing quickly to big shoes together. All of the old feel/experience based work model is gone from house. This is something I experience in work life.

However I think we will buy some experienced players here and there where needed in the future.

What WE LACK atm is the fanbase's support. I guess everything takes time there as well. Young lads need to feel supported. Remember Caicedo being in shock and couldn't play at level because he got booed and questioned. Got over it and won fans over but not sure how it helped him.

Optimism is fine, blind optimism is unhealthy.

19 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

No one is arsed about a couple of losses, they're arsed about how truly boring the football is. Football is first and foremost entertainment, there's nothing entertaining about watching us now. We had Hazard to get us through Sarri's borefest. We had Palmer last season but this bald bellend has even reduced him to recycling possession.

I didn't even realise how detached I've become the last couple of months, it's not the results, it's the way we play, it's f**king boring.