13 hours ago, Mod said:

Understatement of the year so far there mate!

Enzo is a real manager (and like Poch, no longer wanted to be Clownlake's gimp) and the poor results he got at the end were because this clown board were making it so f**king hard for him! He'll go to a big club this Summer, play the team how he wants, sign who he wants and win trophies!

Liam is Potter-level, not Maresca's.

Enzo is the worst Chelsea manager in the last 20 years other than Potter.

Do you people really think LR has had his stamp on the team in two weeks? What you're all moaning about is the hangover from Maresca-ball.

The same was Maresca rode the Poch hangover for the first few months and had us second before he managed to strangle all the excitement out of the team and suffocate us into the most turgid football this club has ever seen. LR now has the unfortunate job of having to ride the Maresca anti-football wave before he can make any meaningful changes.

Maresca is gone, thank the lord. I can't believe there are still fans calling for him.

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

It's fine chief. 😂

The way some of you are glazing Poch is 100% revisionism. Other than Palmer being a world beater, what positive element did Poch's football bring? We conceded the most goals in the club's Premier League history which completely balanced out Palmer's influence up front. Our midfield void was diabolical, and we lost a cup final in classic Poch bottle fashion.

That's fine if you prefer his football. I think its a redundant argument much like this whole Neto v Garnacho debacle. Like saying the sh*t last night was better than the sh*t I took this morning. What's the point? It's both sh*t.

The holes in midfield still havent been resolved... Without the attacking football last season we wouldnt have got top four. Colwill came into the side.

Anyhow, I just want to see energetic football and attacking football. Just give us a manager who does that... then we all might be less sh*t!!!! :-)

3 minutes ago, bluelightening said:

The holes in midfield still havent been resolved... Without the attacking football last season we wouldnt have got top four. Colwill came into the side.

Anyhow, I just want to see energetic football and attacking football. Just give us a manager who does that... then we all might be less sh*t!!!! :-)

They have been resolved when we played Santos with Caicedo, moving the liability Enzo out of the way.

Mind you, the crux of the matter is we don't have a squad capable of competing.

Pep and whatever top manager could do better, but the inconsistencies wills till be there. The suggestion we can compete because of games against Liverpool or PSG or Barca is irrelevant when its matches against like Brentford or Brighton or Bournemouth are the ones that really matter to see if this squad is capable of going the distance.

We can't say this squad should be challenging for anything whilst at the same time going to player threads and bashing our players.

As has been said elsewhere, I think the quality of football currently is at an all-time low (how else could we explain how Arsenal are dominating).

Sounding like the old geezer down the pub with the "football was so much better back in my day"........But it was!

Footballers now are athletes (many of them injured athletes), who yes, may be fitter and run faster but are also very limited. Think we can thank the Pep's and Maresca's of this world for over-coaching them and making them all like robots. So we are left with some good, but unspectacular footballers who are all much of a muchness and show varying levels of inconsistency.

In our squad we all know the only real quality players we have are Palmer, Estevao and then Caicedo and James.

I'm getting so fed up with watching players like Neto, Garnacho, Pedro, Enzo, Gittens, Mudryk, Gusto..................etc etc. All getting paid stupid money to look bang average more often than not. SOMETHING needs to happen to football to make it exciting again, but I fear we are where we are now.

Edited January 22Jan 22 by Nibs

20 minutes ago, dkw said:

They have been resolved when we played Santos with Caicedo, moving the liability Enzo out of the way.

yeah... managers come and they go nothing new to me, just another memmmmmooooooryyyyy... sang Guns and roses. Leaving Enzo out the side is the quiest way to you P45. We didnt have Santos last season...

Imagine the dressing room if an argie loses his place to a brazilian.

Enzo looked ok last night, largely because Pathos were pathetic. he looks alright against teams that level.

All the obvious problems will persist until such point that Eghbali winds his neck in, admits he's made some really bad mistakes, and tries something different instead, listening to and acting on good advice from people who know what they are talking about.

TLDR, all the obvious problems will persist ... 😎

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

All the obvious problems will persist until such point that Eghbali winds his neck in, admits he's made some really bad mistakes, and tries something different instead, listening to and acting on good advice from people who know what they are talking about.

TLDR, all the obvious problems will persist ... 😎

What the hell does TLDR mean? When people use initials for a player, I can barely keep up unless it's JT. Everything more than that I'm at sea 🙁

3 minutes ago, Valerie said:

What the hell does TLDR mean? When people use initials for a player, I can barely keep up unless it's JT. Everything more than that I'm at sea 🙁

Apparently it means Too Long Didn't Read 😁

26 minutes ago, Valerie said:

I read this and thought Is this idiot serious? Only then I saw you wrote it @Mod 😁

Let me clear up, when I say 'Enzo was a real Manager', I didn't mean on Pep or Enrique level, I meant as it was drawn in comparison to Liam. Enzo is real, as in he looks like a Manager, comes across like a Manager, acts like a Manager, as opposed to someone who acts like a Car Salesman that fancied a career change and knew someone in the Masons who owned a football club!

Other than that, I can't see any argument for anything else in my post. Enzo will win Trophies elsewhere; meanwhile, we will be looking to our new Manager feeder club in Strasbourg for our next 'coach'.

1 hour ago, Mod said:

Let me clear up, when I say 'Enzo was a real Manager', I didn't mean on Pep or Enrique level, I meant as it was drawn in comparison to Liam. Enzo is real, as in he looks like a Manager, comes across like a Manager, acts like a Manager, as opposed to someone who acts like a Car Salesman that fancied a career change and knew someone in the Masons who owned a football club!

Other than that, I can't see any argument for anything else in my post. Enzo will win Trophies elsewhere; meanwhile, we will be looking to our new Manager feeder club in Strasbourg for our next 'coach'.

I get it, you're a silver puffer jacket man.

Nothing changed in the four games. Still too many changes. Two right backs playing at the same. No settled back four. Surly some things would have been tried with a new coach? Or do we know the reason why nothing is new?

2 hours ago, Mod said:

Let me clear up, when I say 'Enzo was a real Manager', I didn't mean on Pep or Enrique level, I meant as it was drawn in comparison to Liam. Enzo is real, as in he looks like a Manager, comes across like a Manager, acts like a Manager, as opposed to someone who acts like a Car Salesman that fancied a career change and knew someone in the Masons who owned a football club!

Other than that, I can't see any argument for anything else in my post. Enzo will win Trophies elsewhere; meanwhile, we will be looking to our new Manager feeder club in Strasbourg for our next 'coach'.

Looks like a manager? The scruffy bastard wore a tracksuit the entire time.

Acts like a manager? He watched his team get bullied by Arsenal and still decided to shake hands with Timber during the game while he laughed at him. No backbone.

9 hours ago, dermott said:

Poch walked. Tuchel saw the writing on the wall and walked. There is a pattern.

Maresca also walked, and he's the guy they specifically brought in to be a patsy

3 hours ago, Mod said:

Let me clear up, when I say 'Enzo was a real Manager', I didn't mean on Pep or Enrique level, I meant as it was drawn in comparison to Liam. Enzo is real, as in he looks like a Manager, comes across like a Manager, acts like a Manager, as opposed to someone who acts like a Car Salesman that fancied a career change and knew someone in the Masons who owned a football club!

Other than that, I can't see any argument for anything else in my post. Enzo will win Trophies elsewhere; meanwhile, we will be looking to our new Manager feeder club in Strasbourg for our next 'coach'.

So Gary O'Neill I assume. Did a decent job at Wolves for half a season ;).

1 hour ago, Richard P said:

Nothing changed in the four games. Still too many changes. Two right backs playing at the same. No settled back four. Surly some things would have been tried with a new coach? Or do we know the reason why nothing is new?

Like I don't understand how any manager in world football thinks its a good idea to have both fullbacks and Enzo f**king Fernandez as the attacking players supporting the striker.

I don't care if Rosenior's been here 2 seconds. That bull sh*t should be scraped immediately.

On 22/01/2026 at 01:36, Drogba1 said:

We've downgraded on Maresca haven't we

Anyone with half a brain can see that. In fact the quality of half the players in the squad is also a downgrade.

11 minutes ago, Loyalblue said:

Anyone with half a brain can see that. In fact the quality of half the players in the squad is also a downgrade.

Having an interim manager is an upgrade on Maresca.

Sacking him seems to have turned one of the worst managers in our history into a martyr amongst the fanbase FFS

I honestly don't see why folk are saying Rosenoir is a downgrade on Maresca. Let's not try and put Maresca in the same bracket as top coaches we have had in the past. Let's take a reality check and remember how majority of Leicester fans were glad to see the back of him.

We've gone sideways, but not downgraded.

21 hours ago, Nibs said:

Footballers now are athletes (many of them injured athletes), who yes, may be fitter and run faster but are also very limited. Think we can thank the Pep's and Maresca's of this world for over-coaching them and making them all like robots. So we are left with some good, but unspectacular footballers who are all much of a muchness and show varying levels of inconsistency.

Ironically it was our own and beloved Jose that started the trend of prioritising athleticism. Some brave souls in these parts referred to it as the death of football.

2 hours ago, Nibs said:

I honestly don't see why folk are saying Rosenoir is a downgrade on Maresca. Let's not try and put Maresca in the same bracket as top coaches we have had in the past. Let's take a reality check and remember how majority of Leicester fans were glad to see the back of him.

We've gone sideways, but not downgraded.

Ridiculous that anyone makes that claim after hes been here 2 weeks, seems the Marescavites are fuming that we dared sack one of the worst coaches weve ever had after he started touting himself to other clubs.

Enzo Maresca's Management career - 145 Games, 91 Wins, 62.8% win rate. Worked as an assistant to Pep at City, won Leicester promotion in his first season, won a Champions League qualification (the first time since Tuchel) and 2 trophies for Chelsea in his first season; the first Silverware since Tuchel's Club World Cup.

Liam Rosenior's Management career - 153 Games, 65 Wins, 42.5% win rate. Sacked by Hull City, worked as an assistant to Wayne Rooney at Derby, won a Coffee cup in the British Legion RNLI charity.

It's a complete downgrade by a landslide.

The high performance nonsense he like to spout was correctly derided on one of my favourite podcasts today. I’d put money on him being on Jake Humphrey’s bullsh*t podcast within the year!

40 minutes ago, Mod said:

Enzo Maresca's Management career - 145 Games, 91 Wins, 62.8% win rate. Worked as an assistant to Pep at City, won Leicester promotion in his first season, won a Champions League qualification (the first time since Tuchel) and 2 trophies for Chelsea in his first season; the first Silverware since Tuchel's Club World Cup.

Liam Rosenior's Management career - 153 Games, 65 Wins, 42.5% win rate. Sacked by Hull City, worked as an assistant to Wayne Rooney at Derby, won a Coffee cup in the British Legion RNLI charity.

It's a complete downgrade by a landslide.

He was outstanding in that British Legion event and he had a really good meeting with them beforehand.