abramovich Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Welcome to CFC Juliano. Hope you'll do well for us. [web]http://www.chelseafc.com/page/NewsHomePage/0,,10268~1098288,00.html[/web] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gem Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yep, will always welcome a new player. Welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 yeah, me too. always try and give any new signing the benefit of the doubt, unlike some on her who seem to think this signing might destroy the whole club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBeard Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Can't believe the crap that's being written about him already by a lot of people on this site! As with any signing, give him the benefit of the doubt - and then, if he turns out to be as bad as you originally thought, then by all means slag him off - but give him a chance first, please! Let's hope he proves to be as good a signing as a certain other right back we got from Barca - Chappie Ferrer! Welcome, Juliano - make these muppets eat their words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Oh I'm not writing the bloke off. I don't know enough about him to make any kind of judgement. Except for his age, and that he (so I hear) can't get into the Barcelona side, or even command a regular place on the bench. So I think to myself, with the resources we have available, couldn't we and shouldn't we have bought better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdan Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Am not one for trivia normally but this just came into my head! Chelsea previously bought a South American player from a Spanish club who had played (though not scored) in a European final beating Arsenal. His name was Gustavo Poyet and he did pretty well. A good omen? Lets hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abramovich Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Am not one for trivia normally but this just came into my head!Chelsea previously bought a South American player from a Spanish club who had played (though not scored) in a European final beating Arsenal. His name was Gustavo Poyet and he did pretty well. A good omen? Lets hope so! Not to mention Alex who is a South American player that had played(and scored) for a Dutch club in a CL match that knocked Arse out of the last season competition. I guess it becomes kind of a tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBeard Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Oh I'm not writing the bloke off. I don't know enough about him to make any kind of judgement. Except for his age, and that he (so I hear) can't get into the Barcelona side, or even command a regular place on the bench. So I think to myself, with the resources we have available, couldn't we and shouldn't we have bought better? As far as I can make out, the only reason Belletti couldn't make the Barcelona first team was because of a certain bloke called Zambrotta - one of the best full-backs in the world. I'm pretty sure Zambrotta would relegate Alves to the bench too. Admittedly, 31 isn't an ideal age for an incoming player - I'd much rather we'd gone for Micah Richards, but there you go. If Belletti does well and earns a regular first team spot for the duration of his 3 year contract, then we'll have got a bargain. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdan Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Beating Arsenal in a regular Champions League match is a pretty regular occurrence although we all enjoy it - Arsenal finally getting to a final only to lose. That's another level! Mind you still waiting for Chelsea to get there but with Belletti everything is possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Maybe worth considering the possibility that part of the motivation behind bring in Belletti was to provide Alex with a fellow countryman to help with the settling in process (although is is obviously not such a big deal as it can be as Alex has been playing in Holland for some time now) Another thought is that Chelsea are reacting to the fact that they failed to bring in that Duck kid and they are maybe thinking that if they want to lure the brightest talent from South America they may need to have a few more SOuth American players ni the squad to make us a more attractive proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee Bee Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I am one to welcome Belletti. As other posters said not the ideal age but it is good for variety. Belletti may offer us something more than what we currently have in variety. Since he is Brazilian Jose might be able to relate to him easily. I remember the same Jose making a comment saying that the Brazilians and Portuguese play a similar type of game. We tend to play the more patient passing buildup now as opposed to one time. It was also enlightening to watch liverpool play a host of long balls up front on Sunday. Yet we have been accused of being long ball merchants. Strange what other teams do don't merit the same type of criticism. I read what a brilliant type of game they played. Utter rubbish, I say! They played a lot of hhoof and run on Sunday but only two incidents made big news. Their main route will continue to be Gerrard aas in times gone by. Let us give Belletti the support he deserves and get behind the guy and assure him that he is one of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_mac Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Just come intot he thread so excuse me if this is written elsewhere. Signing another RB to me signifies 2 things: First, we are no longer in for Alves. Second, jose really has no time at all for Paulo or for Johno I feel sorry for johno, if he is young and has more to learn either send him out on loan again, or just sell him. As for Paulo, I just wish we would give the man a chance. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 good thread, with good points. the best one being- zambrotta would relegate alves to the bench- playing second fiddle to zambrotta is no shame. welcome, juliano! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 At last a thread on our new boy which is talking some sense. Welcome my good man and many congratulations on stuffing the Arse a couple of years back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Maybe worth considering the possibility that part of the motivation behind bring in Belletti was to provide Alex with a fellow countryman to help with the settling in process (although is is obviously not such a big deal as it can be as Alex has been playing in Holland for some time now)Another thought is that Chelsea are reacting to the fact that they failed to bring in that Duck kid and they are maybe thinking that if they want to lure the brightest talent from South America they may need to have a few more SOuth American players ni the squad to make us a more attractive proposition. You've hit the nail firmly on the head Loz. According to the grapevine around the Bridge this afternoon, Alex suggested to Arneson - Belletti as an option should we fail to get Alves. Jose wanted an attacking right back and Chelsea's final offer for Alves was declined. For the record this is an opinion from a Barcelona fan I know with a sound knowledge of Spanish football. Belletti is considered as being an attacking right back but not in the class of Alves. Defensively he has a reputation of losing concentration at vital times and his pace has deterioted in the past 2 years. The joke in Barcelona is that Chelsea have signed the new Winston Bogarde at a price laughably higher than his worth. Time will tell and as Bluebeard says give the boy a chance but lets be honest here - Alves was our first choice and six years younger and a certain player at Man City at the 25 million we received for Robben would have covered Right Back and Centre Back for years to come - at 31 the bloke is past his prime if the Barcelona fans are to be believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callista Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I am one to welcome Belletti. As other posters said not the ideal age but it is good for variety. Belletti may offer us something more than what we currently have in variety. Since he is Brazilian Jose might be able to relate to him easily. I remember the same Jose making a comment saying that the Brazilians and Portuguese play a similar type of game. We tend to play the more patient passing buildup now as opposed to one time.It was also enlightening to watch liverpool play a host of long balls up front on Sunday. Yet we have been accused of being long ball merchants. Strange what other teams do don't merit the same type of criticism. I read what a brilliant type of game they played. Utter rubbish, I say! They played a lot of hhoof and run on Sunday but only two incidents made big news. Their main route will continue to be Gerrard aas in times gone by. Let us give Belletti the support he deserves and get behind the guy and assure him that he is one of us. Yes Liverpool played the long ball game last Sunday and did not get called on it but then this is Liverpool we are talking about! They never get called on anything don't you know that? I'm sure Belletti will get lots of support, we have so much trouble with that RB spot but every player who has been there has been pretty well supported - even Glen most of the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 The reason I'm a bit disappointed by us signing Belletti, as many you might be, is because we were after Dani Alves. Now we settled for not-that-interesting player for business reasons. I hope this slight disappointment fades away by Belletti being solid. That is all we can expect from him. I hope he proves he's valuable player and makes JM shine. Let's welcome him to the club and hope him the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim W Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Is there a long-term in football among "overseas" players - we acquired Robben when we was young only to lose him three years later. There is a reason why JM wanted this guy whatever that may be, and it's definitely not the end of Johno or Paulo only inspiration to gain that number two shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossie13 Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Like other I will welcome Belletti, and will wait to give an opinion once he has settled in!!!!!!!!!! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethicalstrategy Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 The main benefit of being 31 is experience. Buying some young up and coming player would not have given us that. All transfers have their pros and cons. In Bellettis case he has won the CL and Primera Liga with Barca and played with some of the games top players. He fits the same profile of player that we were already looking at in terms of playing style. He was also picked up for what amounts to next to nothing in today's climate. If he does well we win, if he is a flop we are really no worse off than we were before we bought him. We clearly had given up on getting Alves anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 1st of September comes soon enough and we can pretty much forget Alves. I think we don't need anyone right now. Cudicini maybe on his way out on loan but otherwise I think our squad is what it is going to be 'til january. I was expecting Alves, but we should get used to doing 'smart business' or even 'business' which we can't call our buys in recent years. edit: Alves is probably going nowhere. He will stay at Seville and everyone knows how he feels about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Am not one for trivia normally but this just came into my head!Chelsea previously bought a South American player from a Spanish club who had played (though not scored) in a European final beating Arsenal. His name was Gustavo Poyet and he did pretty well. A good omen? Lets hope so! Not to mention Alex who is a South American player that had played(and scored) for a Dutch club in a CL match that knocked Arse out of the last season competition. I guess it becomes kind of a tradition. With Bridgey, we've got quite a collection of goal scorers who've ended European dreams for Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerie Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 And may it long continue! Just for that alone I like Belletti already. I'm glad this thread is more positive than the others I've read on Belletti, who was slagged off before even kicking a ball in training for us. Who knows what this buy will do for Johnson and Paulo? With all the matches we are about to play hopefully, a few more options wouldn't hurt us. In terms of the possibility of either Johnson or Ferreira leaving: If Paulo isn't in Jose's plans, it doesn't matter who we buy, Belletti or Alves. And if Johnson lets a team like Birmingham have 2 shots on our goal with both shots flying in, then again it doesn't matter who we sign (how much more time do people want give Johnson to develop into the finished product?). Belletti is experienced in both domestic league and CL, he knows how to play for a top team, all this for peanuts. Give the man a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian M Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 The joke in Barcelona is that Chelsea have signed the new Winston Bogarde at a price laughably higher than his worth. Lordy, that bodes well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killbill Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 What?s puzzling me is how come we have two players for every other position but we need three for the right back position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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