It's just your nature to overrate City players I think. 

 

Where's Cesc on that list? 14 assists doesn't match up to Di Maria?

 

I'm quite happy saying Aguero has been the best player this year, but below him you've got players like Hazard, Cesc, Sanchez etc. It's not a major issue I just think you're underrating our players and overrating others - we are top of the league after all.

Overrate? They are the Champions and have won 2 of the last 3 titles. Aguero is the best in the league and Yaya/Silva have been doing it for years. To put Hazard alongside them should not be seen as a criticism. Yes I made a mistake not including Cesc and Costa. But then I should also include RVP and Rooney too. All quality players.

 

 

 

No way is Sanchez ahead of Hazard. 

 

Hazard has successfully completed more than 300 more passes than Sanchez this season with a pass success rate of around 88% compared to Sanchez's 75%

 

He's a more complete attacking player, he does more in the grand scheme of what he brings to a side... Very surprised that someone who watches him with regularity would seemingly undervalue him so much. 

 

Ridiculous to suggest I undervalue Hazard. Most neutrals I believe will say Sanchez has been the most important player after Sanchez this season. Then you throw in Hazard/Cesc/Silva etc.

 

Sanchez is in his prime and really can't do much more where Hazard can go up a couple levels and surpass him in a year or 2.

 

All those names I listed have been/are great this season.

 

I also wouldn't swap Hazard for any player bar Kun.

Edited January 7, 201511 yr by Cech_Hook

You're underrating Hazard because you're overrating Sanchez and Aguero. Looking great in weak Arsenal team is easier than looking great in this current Chelsea side. What I'm suggesting is if you put them both in the same side then Hazard outshines him.

Aguero's a masterful finisher and makes a difference in many games but he's not as complete as Sanchez, Hazard or even Suarez of last season.

Overrate? They are the Champions and have won 2 of the last 3 titles. Aguero is the best in the league and Yaya/Silva have been doing it for years. To put Hazard alongside them should not be seen as a criticism. Yes I made a mistake not including Cesc and Costa. But then I should also include RVP and Rooney too. All quality players.

 

 

 

 

Ridiculous to suggest I undervalue Hazard. Most neutrals I believe will say Sanchez has been the most important player after Sanchez this season. Then you throw in Hazard/Cesc/Silva etc.

 

Sanchez is in his prime and really can't do much more where Hazard can go up a couple levels and surpass him in a year or 2.

 

All those names I listed have been/are great this season.

 

I also wouldn't swap Hazard for any player bar Kun.

 

I wouldn't even swap him for Aguero.

Félicitations, Eden!

 

Well done!

 

www.football-observatory.com/Top-transfer-values-Messi-outranks-Ronaldo-and-1141

 

 

Et bon anniversaire!

I'm not fully convinced on Sanchez as stupid as it may sound, he hasn't had a full season yet. If he is playing the same way consistently through the 2nd season I would easily class him a great player.

 

As of now though how many players have we seen do this? Ozil was just one of them last season, he basically made the whole Arsenal team tick and they were first in the league for a good while.

 

Got to say though Hazard is a distance above Sanchez in ability, I would only class Aguero a better player than Hazard in the league as Aguero appears to have just about everything in his locker.

You're underrating Hazard because you're overrating Sanchez and Aguero. Looking great in weak Arsenal team is easier than looking great in this current Chelsea side. What I'm suggesting is if you put them both in the same side then Hazard outshines him.

Aguero's a masterful finisher and makes a difference in many games but he's not as complete as Sanchez, Hazard or even Suarez of last season.

You could say I'm overrating Sanchez yes but that's just my opinion which does carry some weight when you consider where Sanchez is now and where Hazard can/will get too. I'm not overrating Aguero though at all. The guy is phenomenal. The complete striker who I even rate above Suarez and only behind Messi & Ronaldo. City won't win the league without it him.

Hazard for everyone I think is the best player to watch in the league but he still needs to add the killer instinct to his game. He's nearly there.

So as for overall impact this season I'll go with.

1: Kun

2:Sanchez

3:Hazard

Edited January 8, 201511 yr by Cech_Hook

Sanchez has 6 more PL goals than Hazard already and this is his first season in PL.

 

Not saying he's better than Hazard, but this lad has everything and can score out of nowhere. Such an underrated player, he's on par with Bale, Reus, Hazard etc.

 

I wish Hazard can also add some of his killer instinct infront of goal he'll be unreal.

Edited January 11, 201511 yr by CFCBlue12

So am I still overrating Sanchez am I??? Schyeah...

Sanchez has 6 more PL goals than Hazard already and this is his first season in PL.

 

Not saying he's better than Hazard, but this lad has everything and can score out of nowhere. Such an underrated player, he's on par with Bale, Reus, Hazard etc.

 

I wish Hazard can also add some of his killer instinct infront of goal he'll be unreal.

Hazard is younger than Sanchez and hasn't played at a high level as long. It's not a surprise for Sanchez to be the more complete player at this moment in time. Hazard wil get there in 24 months. Maybe now those in denial might realise his quality a bit more.

Why didn't you ask us a few weeks ago when he did absolutely nothing at Southampton?

Sanchez has 6 more PL goals than Hazard already and this is his first season in PL.

 

Not saying he's better than Hazard, but this lad has everything and can score out of nowhere. Such an underrated player, he's on par with Bale, Reus, Hazard etc.

 

I wish Hazard can also add some of his killer instinct infront of goal he'll be unreal.

 

Would've loved him here instead of Willian but you have to bear in mind that Sanchez and Hazard are playing different roles at the moment. Sanchez is the main man for Arsenal, doing everything and doing it fairly well. Our main goal threat is still Costa whilst our main playmaker is Fabregas so you'd expect the stats to be skewed a little bit.

 

He's certainly up there though.

Why didn't you ask us a few weeks ago when he did absolutely nothing at Southampton?

Because a few weeks ago I didn't post my opinion on the top players in the PL with subsequent replies that I'm overrating Sanchez. That's why,

Hazard is younger than Sanchez and hasn't played at a high level as long. It's not a surprise for Sanchez to be the more complete player at this moment in time. Hazard wil get there in 24 months. Maybe now those in denial might realise his quality a bit more.

That's non sense. People said same about Bale when he was older than Hazard. When Bale was 23/24 he had hit 22 goals in the league and some unreal goals. People said when Hazard's will be at same age he'll outscore Bale. And not to mention it's Sanchez's first season in PL, even some of good players struggles to score here in PL.

 

Would've loved him here instead of Willian but you have to bear in mind that Sanchez and Hazard are playing different roles at the moment. Sanchez is the main man for Arsenal, doing everything and doing it fairly well. Our main goal threat is still Costa whilst our main playmaker is Fabregas so you'd expect the stats to be skewed a little bit.

 

He's certainly up there though.

Yeah I agree our main goal threat is Costa... but can't deny that Hazard has very much freedom in our team to score or do anything more than any player in our team.

 

And it's not about Sanchez's goals alone that guy has 7 assists to his name as well. He's a very underrated player imo. In same class as Bale, Hazard, Reus and Neymar.

That's non sense. People said same about Bale when he was older than Hazard. When Bale was 23/24 he had hit 22 goals in the league and some unreal goals. People said when Hazard's will be at same age he'll outscore Bale. And not to mention it's Sanchez's first season in PL, even some of good players struggles to score here in PL.

 

 

You're talking about two players who are the one-man in one-man teams. Those teams don't win titles.

 

 

 

 

And it's not about Sanchez's goals alone that guy has 7 assists to his name as well. He's a very underrated player imo. In same class as Bale, Hazard, Reus and Neymar.

 

He's a terrific player and like I've said, I'd love him here but I wouldn't expect him to replicate those numbers. I reckon at most half the goals and assists.

Sanchez has 6 more PL goals than Hazard already and this is his first season in PL.

 

Not saying he's better than Hazard, but this lad has everything and can score out of nowhere. Such an underrated player, he's on par with Bale, Reus, Hazard etc.

 

I wish Hazard can also add some of his killer instinct infront of goal he'll be unreal.

 

Sanchez is nowhere near Bale.

Grass is always greener.

Makes me laugh, everyone who slags off Hazard's end product against top teams are yet to realise Sanchez has only one goal and two assists against the top eight so far this season with Hazard having four goals and five assists.

The same argument is used for Costa and Aguero. People say Alexis is better than Hazard because the goals he scores aren't penalties yet Costa has more goals than Aguero who takes City's penalties who is rated much higher than Costa.

Feel like our players are underrated far too much.

Edited January 11, 201511 yr by JMaher94

Sanchez is in great form at the moment but he is not getting doubled up on the way Hazard is. Not sure why this is, maybe it's because he is new to the league and teams have not been hurt by him as much or that teams set up differently against us than Arsenal as they believe that a draw is a good result against us whereas most teams believe they can beat arsenal.

Although Sanchez is maybe having a more effective season as far as stats go, stats don't account for the overall contribution and the amount of space Hazard creates for other players just because he is drawing defences all over the place.

At the moment i count Hazard a superior player to Sanchez, maybe this time next year I might see things differently but I doubt it.

Hazard still better, better in tight spaces, more intelligent, dribbles past more players,creates more chances. Its not as if Hazard goal return isn't good i think it is, all Sanchez has over Hazard is more goals and better work rate.

Sanchez is nowhere near Bale.

Really? Prove it.

 

Makes me laugh, everyone who slags off Hazard's end product against top teams are yet to realise Sanchez has only one goal and two assists against the top eight so far this season with Hazard having four goals and five assists.

The same argument is used for Costa and Aguero. People say Alexis is better than Hazard because the goals he scores aren't penalties yet Costa has more goals than Aguero who takes City's penalties who is rated much higher than Costa.

Feel like our players are underrated far too much.

 

Torres/Ba, used to score goals against big teams but couldn't do sh*t against small teams. Against small teams it's more difficult to score, because they have always 8 men behind the ball and park the bus.

 

Hazard still better, better in tight spaces, more intelligent, dribbles past more players,creates more chances. Its not as if Hazard goal return isn't good i think it is, all Sanchez has over Hazard is more goals and better work rate.

 

Really? Sanchez's creates equivalent chances as compared to Hazard. He also has good vision and has good technique and can score goals from tight spaces.

I don't agree CFCBlue,

Sorry about not quoting I'm on my phone.

Anyways, teams are more inclined to park the bus against Chelsea because they see it as concede one or two and no doubt that they've lost. Arsenal have proved their a lot more easy to score against than us with the Anderlecht result being the prime example.

Teams park the bus against us because usually it's their only hope of getting a result.

Really? Prove it.

 

 

Torres/Ba, used to score goals against big teams but couldn't do sh*t against small teams. Against small teams it's more difficult to score, because they have always 8 men behind the ball and park the bus.

 

 

Really? Sanchez's creates equivalent chances as compared to Hazard. He also has good vision and has good technique and can score goals from tight spaces.

 

If I'm not mistaken Hazard has created the most chances in the Prem this season Sterling is second. Hazard created the most last season too. Never said Sanchez didn't have good technique etc but Hazard has better.

Really? Prove it.

 

 

Torres/Ba, used to score goals against big teams but couldn't do sh*t against small teams. Against small teams it's more difficult to score, because they have always 8 men behind the ball and park the bus.

 

 

Really? Sanchez's creates equivalent chances as compared to Hazard. He also has good vision and has good technique and can score goals from tight spaces.

 

You're getting carried away over 5 months.

 

Bale destroyed the Premier League in his final season here, he is a different class to Sanchez. Sanchez appears to be doing really well but can he keep that up for the rest of the season? Can he do this again next season? That remains to be seen.

 

And are you seriously saying he's in the same class as Hazard? Again you're far too carried away with the stats, he hasn't shown anything to be as good as Hazard, Sanchez doesn't just fly past players from what I've seen, I'm very impressed with his work rate, he does seem to cause teams a lot of problems and he has been grabbing the goals and assists. But Hazard is almost unstoppable.

 

There's also a difference here, Sanchez's team isn't competing for the title, he might be carrying it but as you saw today Stoke didn't even put up much of a fight, they completely gave up, Arsenal will come up against those types of sides we will never do that since we are the biggest threat in the league, teams always seem to have a game plan against us. Hazard is our best performer and we are first in the league, don't just look at the precious stats look at how they both play, and I have seen Sanchez play a lot this season and can I just say he isn't in the same class as Hazard and most certainly not Bale. That's not being bias either that's just my honest opinion, I hated Suarez but I never denied his ability, I always thought he was a good player at Ajax but I always thought he was a tad overrated also, which he was, but so is any player by Liverpool fans.

Weird how high Kun is rated, how many degrees of Brilliance is Messi above him, and would Chelsea do a deal for Messi involving Eden??

Sanchez was pretty good last season as well...

I'm not saying he's better than Hazard but he's not that behind... Plus his instinct in front of goal makes him a complete forward. Yeah his dribbling ability and ball control is nowhere as good as Hazard but still his eye for goal and finishing is much better.

Hazard is unplayable at times and has more trickery in his pocket no doubt, but he needs to add more killer instinct and needs to shoot more.