Well actually he was, cos although he got loads stick at the time, many top coaches do it now - including Jose and no one even blinks when 3,4 or 5 player are changed from match to match

I think Jose has 3 tiers to his squad now

Tier 1 is his first pick and that's probably only 4 or 5 players but includes cech, ivanovic, Oscar, Ashley, Ramirez

Tier 2 is the players who he rotates around his core and that includes lamps, mata, schurrle, Eden, Mikel, Cahill, mata

Tier 3 are the fringe players who will get in only as a last resort and that includes Bertrand, schwarzer, willian (so far), de bruyne

Jose seems to be settling now for his first pick and players not in that group are gonna have to work mighty hard to break in

Key to successful rotation? You must have depth in the squad, the authority over the squad and a core group - Jose has these in abundance, so expect plenty changes going forwards

There's tinkering, and then there's the match against Monaco...

JFH at RB, Huth at striker

not sure why you have not mentioned the centerbacks who are the most important positions because if they shut out the opposition it means the confidence of that shut out will breed into our forward play.

Huth at striker

 

That was José.

With respect to Ranieri, who I like, he neither invented substitutions, rotation or changing formations, so no I don't think he was ahead of his time, as nothing much has changed except that our squad is stronger and less tinkering is needed.

He brought in Frank Lampard, though!

What a buy

He brought in Frank Lampard, though!

What a buy

 

I would argue of all of Roman's managers that the Tinkerman used the war chest the best. 

Its tough to say really, he did buy some very good players but he did waste quite a bit also. Like all managers really.

I think he was a good manager for us before Roman but he wasnt good enough for the next level we needed.

Agreed but the work he did prior to Roman's arrival and in the first season after Roman bought the club he laid the foundations of a very good side and a lot of his signings were a big part of our back to back titles. 

Jose wouldn't have won the league if Ranieri hadn't assembled a quality squad. He's the one who brought in Cech, Lampard, Joe Cole, Duff, Robben, Makelele, etc...

I hope we meet Monaco next season in the CL. 

I agree with consensus that Claudio made some fantastic signings, and laid the foundations of a title winning side but I disagree with the topic of the thread. 

 

Most managers change consistently, Ranieri was called the tinkerman because he took it a step further with the changes he made. Some of which were very bizarre.

 

Also think it's a bit weird saying that he was ahead of his time. He's still alive and still managing...

 

And although it's incredibly anal, spelling Ramires as Ramirez drives me insane 

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Jose wouldn't have won the league if Ranieri hadn't assembled a quality squad. He's the one who brought in Cech, Lampard, Joe Cole, Duff, Robben, Makelele, etc...

 

I doubt he had anything to do with those signings, just as I doubt he had anything to do with the likes of Veron.

 

I'm sorry mate I disagree with you, Jose doesn't need Ranieri to lay the foundations to win trophies, his record proves that.

I doubt he had anything to do with those signings, just as I doubt he had anything to do with the likes of Veron.

I'm sorry mate I disagree with you, Jose doesn't need Ranieri to lay the foundations to win trophies, his record proves that.

Doesn't need? Maybe but Ranieri HAD laid those foundations. He bought Lampard and Makalele who were essential to the title wins, he bought JT through and made him captain despite his young age.

He signed Robben, Duff and Cole whereas Jose signed Wright-Phillips, how much Ranieri was involved in the signings after Roman bought the club who knows but they were made under his management.

i think Claudio was a very good manager, and was unlucky to lose his job. he made key signings (not least identifying makelele as the man that would make us tick) but his over-rotation was an issue. in Lampard's auto-biography he talked about how ranieri would use blood tests to determine whether players were fit enough to play/train, rather than the players own knowledge of their bodies and how best to train themselves. he was a hugely important manager in our recent success though, and deserves to be saluted for that

A massive turning point for the club and a game I will never forget was dumping Arsenal out the CL at the library .... And his reaction was fantastic.

The main problem with his last season is that I always felt he had no idea what our best 11 was. 

I doubt he had anything to do with those signings, just as I doubt he had anything to do with the likes of Veron.

 

I'm sorry mate I disagree with you, Jose doesn't need Ranieri to lay the foundations to win trophies, his record proves that.

 

He had nothing to do with the signing of Lamps? Then who did? :) You're underestimating him. He may not be a winner but he sure does know how to build a squad.

 

And José may have not needed it but in fact he did inherit a fantastic squad from Claudio which no doubt helped him a lot to win the PL in both of his first two seasons.

The main problem with his last season is that I always felt he had no idea what our best 11 was. 

 

In fairness he probably didn't, I think a lot of clubs who suddenly find themselves flush with cash have the same issue.

 

You end up buying too many players and can't bed them all in to find your best team.

 

I always thought that we signed Veron because we didn't think we would be able to get Makalele, so then we we did get Maka it was a case of "so what do we do with Veron"?

And unlike now, we was overstocked on players pushing for a first team place in central midfield because probably signed too many midfielders during Roman's first transfer window.

 

Same with the strikers I guess, we already had Hasselbaink and Gudjohnsen who were two of the better strikers in the league at that point and then we had Mutu and Crespo as well (what would you give to have that strike force now?) so there was a lot of "tinkering" upfront too. 

And Carlton Cole.

I think he was too nice for his own good at times. In his last season i think he wanted to keep everyone happy so kept tinkering with the starting line up. It just doesnt really work.

Jose came in and built a spine and then those around it would come in and out of the team.

It is very important to a team to have a core to the team. Have a number of players that play pretty much every game and get use to each other.

When the players change each game it takes so much longer for players to get use to each other and how they play.

Last season Mazacar were on fire because they pretty much played week in week out but this season we dont seem to be clicking quite as well (yet) because nearly every week the team is rotated.

While it is important to keep the players fit and healthy it is more vital that they play together and find a flow.

He had nothing to do with the signing of Lamps? Then who did? :) You're underestimating him. He may not be a winner but he sure does know how to build a squad.

 

And José may have not needed it but in fact he did inherit a fantastic squad from Claudio which no doubt helped him a lot to win the PL in both of his first two seasons.

lamps' autobiography said the reason he chose chelsea over leeds was because Ranieri wanted him more, and told Lamps exactly how he owuld use him, and how he could make him a better player. Ranieri had EVERYTHING to do with Lamps signing!

That was José.

See, see how blurred the lines are when we are dealing with genius

lamps' autobiography said the reason he chose chelsea over leeds was because Ranieri wanted him more, and told Lamps exactly how he owuld use him, and how he could make him a better player. Ranieri had EVERYTHING to do with Lamps signing!

 

He brought Lampard but if you recall started out playing him in the wide midfield position!! He only got switched to a central midfield role due to injuries other players. Ranieri may have gone out and brought many of the pieces of the jigsaw, but he had absolutely no idea how to put them all together. The larger his squad became the more confused he seemed to get.

 

Fact is Ranieri was never a truly top class manager with a charisma and presence like Jose, Ferguson, or even, at that time, Wenger.

 

 

And Ruud Gullit was talking about the importance of depth of squad and implementing player rotation before Claudio arrived.

He brought Lampard but if you recall started out playing him in the wide midfield position!! He only got switched to a central midfield role due to injuries other players. Ranieri may have gone out and brought many of the pieces of the jigsaw, but he had absolutely no idea how to put them all together. The larger his squad became the more confused he seemed to get.

 

Can't be 100% sure but I have a vague memory of either Ranieri or Frank saying the idea of playing him on the right was to help him develop parts of his game that were weaker.