Can we put the discussion about his shot-stopping ability to bed now? The Lallana save was absolutely world class and he saved us in that match...not for the first time.

Can we put the discussion about his shot-stopping ability to bed now? The Lallana save was absolutely world class and he saved us in that match...not for the first time.

 

 

No one is saying he is not an absolutely top keeper, its probably a toss of a coin between him and chec, and about half on here feel chec is the slightly better keeper. I still have a slight preference for chec. I think chec makes more saves then he has no right to, thus  beleive he may have saved some of the goals we conceded against spuds. It's a subjective opinion. It's based on watching him. It's no more legit then saying he wouldn't have made those saves. And like wise their are probably instances where chec has failed and TBO wouldn't have. again all subjective.

 

This is really like picking between Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis... you win either way but there is the opportunity cost

Can we put the discussion about his shot-stopping ability to bed now? The Lallana save was absolutely world class and he saved us in that match...not for the first time.

 

As long as Cech, one of the best keepers this club has ever had and a true legend of CFC, is still at the club it wont stop. Every time he lets in a goal someone will claim Cech would have saved it. I mean the main criticism he faces now is that he "seems to let in most of the clear cut chances that are well taken". I mean cmon.

Its understandable though, that people get upset that we brought someone in to replace him when its obvious he can still be a top keeper, I think its more to do with loyalty to Cech then any real criticism of Tibo

No one is saying he is not an absolutely top keeper, its probably a toss of a coin between him and chec, and about half on here feel chec is the slightly better keeper. I still have a slight preference for chec. I think chec makes more saves then he has no right to, thus  beleive he may have saved some of the goals we conceded against spuds. It's a subjective opinion. It's based on watching him. It's no more legit then saying he wouldn't have made those saves. And like wise their are probably instances where chec has failed and TBO wouldn't have. again all subjective.

 

This is really like picking between Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis... you win either way but there is the opportunity cost

 

Courtois is just as capable of making the saves that Cech is and he's clearly better in handling crosses. That's why pretty much every commentator who isn't associated with Chelsea rates him as the second best keeper in the world.

 

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but answer this honestly. Do you really want the Cech of 2014 in goal for us or are you actually longing for him to return to his 2012 form? 2012 Cech I totally get the argument for, but the Cech of last year who developed the yips when dealing with crosses? Not really.

Courtois is just as capable of making the saves that Cech is and he's clearly better in handling crosses. That's why pretty much every commentator who isn't associated with Chelsea rates him as the second best keeper in the world.

 

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but answer this honestly. Do you really want the Cech of 2014 in goal for us or are you actually longing for him to return to his 2012 form? 2012 Cech I totally get the argument for, but the Cech of last year who developed the yips when dealing with crosses? Not really.

 

 

I have seen chec with Yips before, do you remember when bolton beat him up (Guss hidink reighn) and the next game against Liverpool, and actually for the rest of the season He just wasn't right. Only for him to return just as strong the next season. Every one gets the Yips, the best in there sports get the Yips.  What makes good players great is the ability to shake it of and bounce back. Chec has done this more then once. 

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Courtois is just as capable of making the saves that Cech is and he's clearly better in handling crosses. That's why pretty much every commentator who isn't associated with Chelsea rates him as the second best keeper in the world.

 

Obviously you're entitled to your opinion but answer this honestly. Do you really want the Cech of 2014 in goal for us or are you actually longing for him to return to his 2012 form? 2012 Cech I totally get the argument for, but the Cech of last year who developed the yips when dealing with crosses? Not really.

I hear you big fella , no doubt he is a quality keeper and can /will improve .

The biggest difference between the two at the moment is when Courtois makes saves he parries the ball far to often for my liking and the ball ends up still live and in play and not always going to a Chelsea player , 1 good example last night , Cech on the other hand kills the ball and it either goes for a corner or he retains the ball.

Edited January 21, 201511 yr by Tea Bar Boy

I hear you big fella , no doubt he is a quality keeper and can /will improve .

The biggest difference between the two at the moment is when Courtois makes saves he parries the ball far to often for my liking and the ball ends up still live and in play and not always going to a Chelsea player , 1 good example last night , Cech on the other hand kills the ball and it either goes for a corner or he retains the ball.

 

I've seen that criticism about him before and I think it boils down to him not wanting to concede corners and instead looking to push it to the sides. I noticed two last night that he did, one was from a Coutinho shot which swerved just as it reached him, so he couldn't do much about. The other was one which he palmed to his right before someone (think Sterling) followed up and he caught it. 

 

I think that's a prime example of him looking to put it into what should be a safe zone (either a throw-in, or to the right-back who simply wasn't in position) but it found a player. He could've easily tipped it round the post but I think he is just a very proactive keeper (as he showed when he stopped one going behind and even when he came right to the edge of his area and slid out). Maybe it's something he'll work on but as it stands it hasn't cost us yet.

 

It's a valid criticism though.

The pushing it back into play instead of conceding a corner is something i noticed of Courtois in his days at Atletico. He should be pushing these shot's around corner really, he is so good from corners and set pieces that he can afford to concede corners from time to time. He was great yesterday though and was the reason why we didn't lose the match.

Edited January 21, 201511 yr by Scott Harris

In Cech and Courtois we have 2 world class keepers and i hope we keep hold of both.Just how good will Courtois become in the future?Massive presence at set pieces and very mature for his age.

I love ?ech, I loved Cudicini, I was annoyed when we replaced Cudicini, then I Saw ?ech make a point blank save against Robbie Keane, then I said oh..that's why Cudicini is on the bench. I think the same moment happened to me yesterday, Courtois made some unbelievable saves and I said to myself that's why he's playing ahead of ?ech. But in all fairness to ?ech, he may have kept those shots out as well, we'll never know.

Can we put the discussion about his shot-stopping ability to bed now? The Lallana save was absolutely world class and he saved us in that match...not for the first time.

We saw yesterday why de gea has been hyped for so long. In front of a sh*t defence a gk can really shine. I think yesterday proved why courtois is the 2nd best gk in the world. He doesn't need to pull it out often, but when he does he keeps us in games.

MOTM.

Good game, I guess.

 

One mistake.

Three saves!

 

Not easy against City, but well done!

Well done, Thibaut!

 

 

Congratulations, Thibaut!

Your sixth!

 

Who would have thought it ten years ago?

Is it better to have 2 world class keepers and share out the games a little more evenly, than have one world class keeper and one average one?

Personally, I'm as confident with Cech in goal as I am with Courtois, even though the latter arguably shades it and is obviously the future.

Why not keep both and play Cech in the easier games, The cup games as well, and play Courtois in the slight majority of matches and more important games.

I'm sure Corouis realizes Cech is still a world class keeper worthy of playing for Chelsea, and Cech should be happy with featuring more heavily, abeit in the easier games.

I don't want to see Cech go yet. Like the man too much and feel it is unfortunate for him to be forced out if it does happen.

Giving both a more r run spread of games, rotating them would mean Chelsea have, yet again, the strongest two goalkeepers out of any team in the world.

Man of the match, yesterday!

 

And a very good second place for Eden!

 

Proficiat, mannen!

Why not keep both and play Cech in the easier games, The cup games as well, and play Courtois in the slight majority of matches and more important games.

 

Because Cech is a competitor not a sit down and play second fiddle kind of man.

Not the man of the match, but certainly the best Chelsea player, yesterday.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=f879xaLdDMY

 

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjztQ9hyXFg

Must have been so angry after making a world class save that the defenders allowed the same man to do the same seconds later.

Seen some cfc fans in twitter question him for both goals...laughable...free headers in the box ffs...Ivan lost Luiz for first and Jt of all people lost silva twice in space of 30 secs, for the great save that led to corner for second gl

He already saved you guys in Paris, The Brit.

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwgYA0JuHY

Edited March 13, 201511 yr by Krc-fan

Congratulations, Thibaut.