Out of shape? Or just plain done?

Discuss...

I wouldn't lump the other two in with Ivanovic.

Fabregas has still had his moments in pretty much every game this season.

Fabregas can get his form back although he does need a reality check. Drop him for next game, make him earn his place back.

 

Terry still has some use in him, even if this is his last season (assuming so with the Stones bids), Ivanovic is gone I don't think he should be playing in our first team any longer. Give Baba a chance, put Azpi right back.

Terry bounces back, i expect the same to happen again.

 

Ivanovic has been poor at RB for a while, the opposition have finally caught on to it. Even last season Ivanovic was being done by the winger, this season it is worse than ever because every team knows it's our weakest area.

 

Fabregas looks unfit and has been found out in the middle. He can't play there anymore.

I wouldn't lump the other two in with Ivanovic.

Fabregas has still had his moments in pretty much every game this season.

 

Apart from Ivan, Cesc has been the next worse player so far this season, lame tackler, loses the ball in some seriously bad positions, poor free kicks/corners, no shot on him whatsoever, but hey ho, he might chip the ball in the box now and again so Costa can score and all of a sudden he's magic.

Apart from Ivan, Cesc has been the next worse player so far this season, lame tackler, loses the ball in some seriously bad positions, poor free kicks/corners, no shot on him whatsoever, but hey ho, he might chip the ball in the box now and again so Costa can score and all of a sudden he's magic.

 

I think Hazard has been worse than Fabregas to be honest. At least Fabregas has done something and got a few shot's on goal. I haven't seen Hazard do anything yet. He just takes the easy option and goes down when he is bumped or plays a pass backwards. Fabregas has been really poor but at least he looks like he is trying.

I think rlc and kenedy deserve a shot in the team, and Ivanovic needs to be dropped.

Apart from Ivan, Cesc has been the next worse player so far this season, lame tackler, loses the ball in some seriously bad positions, poor free kicks/corners, no shot on him whatsoever, but hey ho, he might chip the ball in the box now and again so Costa can score and all of a sudden he's magic.

He's made quite a few tackles, i'm sure if you went back and looked through the stats he's been one of our top tacklers this season so far.

He's given the ball away sloppily a few times no doubt, and has gotten turned a few times, but he's also made some very good passes and some very good tackles. I don't think hes been much worse than pretty much anyone else on the team.

1) Terry - I'm sure he will bounce back, he's our leader, our legend and won't leave the team, he will give everything to return to his form. But I want to see him next to Zouma. Zouma has to be our new starter, he does better than Cahill and Terry.

 

2) Ivanovic - I don't know why but since he received the Vice-Captain position he lost his head, I thought it will affect differently on him, it will give him more motivation and try to keep his best form but things going really bad for him. Yes, I would say that, it's the right time to replace him for a period. We have got Azpi on right, Baba Rahman on left. We should give them play and see the results but until then, drop Ivanovic.

 

3) Fabregas - really disappointing me, huge differences between this season and last one. He can't even assist one goal, sometimes it seems like he leaves Matic to do all the work in the central. We have Ramires and RLC to replace him. I'd say that too, I want RLC to replace him for a period, he has been waiting a lot for a chance and here is the moment that we need to test RLC.

I haven't seen anything From fabregas at all, nothing going forward and nothing in defence... He is a passenger right now.

Ivanovic is either hurt or its over for him, and as someone stated before it started last year... Getting skinned by every John Q. Winger is now the norm.

Terry is the least concern for me. I feel he will still have teams he is able to boss and he knows every game is basically borrowed time.

To be honest Fabregas would be rated higher for me today than Hazard. He had a few shots and passing was good too. He could have had two goals if not for an excellant Palace defence putting their bodies on the line. Hazard just has been at his best yet, hopefully he can get back his excellent form from last season.

 

Ivan needs to be dropped because literally our opponents know that the right sides the weak side with him and they attack it more often. His lack of pace has cost us a lot this season so far

Explain to me why Willian gets a pass all the time? Works hard yes but has no quality at all. Can't shoot to save his life and doesn't really create for anybody. Our midfield lacks creativity especially since Fabregas looks like he is not even out there

Explain to me why Willian gets a pass all the time? Works hard yes but has no quality at all. Can't shoot to save his life and doesn't really create for anybody. Our midfield lacks creativity especially since Fabregas looks like he is not even out there

I love Willian and his work rate is exceptional but I agree. His shooting is disgusting sometimes. Happened last game against West Brom, Pedro gave him an amazing change, easy finish but he puts it wide. Happened against this season putting most of his chances high into the stands

Ivanovic is done, Fabregas is out of form and Terry is getting too much sh*t for no real reason.

It sounds absolutely horrible but you almost have to hope Ivanovic pulls a muscle or something on international break so Mourinhos hand is forced to make a change.

 

This Ivanovic-favoritism is holding us back bigtime.

Ivanovic looks shot to bits.

JT is okay.

Fabregas is missing Oscar who often drops deep to allow him to influence games, with Willian in front of him he looks lost.

I wonder why Mourinho favours Ivanovic so much?

Ivanovic is done, Fabregas is out of form and Terry is getting too much sh*t for no real reason.

Terry undoubtedly is a legend but I am afraid we need to choose games he starts going forward. As things stand we are playing Azpi out of position to protect him, and we also have to sit deep so balls can't get behind him. Problem is you play him against forwards with good movement; the Aguero's & Kane's and we will be in trouble. I just don't think we can play both him and Ivanovic together going forward, it is one or the other for me.

nothing is wrong with terry, usual media blow up bollocks 

fabregas just can't play besides matic, think he'll be more effective in higher position, but yes can't deny that he has been extremely lazy

i don't like to use the term finished, but in brana's case it's more than just a massive decline, guess he's indeed done

Explain to me why Willian gets a pass all the time? Works hard yes but has no quality at all. Can't shoot to save his life and doesn't really create for anybody. Our midfield lacks creativity especially since Fabregas looks like he is not even out there

They say he is world class; more like well overrated.

Terry undoubtedly is a legend but I am afraid we need to choose games he starts going forward. As things stand we are playing Azpi out of position to protect him, and we also have to sit deep so balls can't get behind him. Problem is you play him against forwards with good movement; the Aguero's & Kane's and we will be in trouble. I just don't think we can play both him and Ivanovic together going forward, it is one or the other for me.

 

And the one we should pick is massively obvious too.

Ivanovic is a complete liability. 

Been calling for Willian to be dropped for a while. Hopefully this is the game that does him in. Im pretty sure I could defend him. Just give him space to hang himself

Ivan needs to be dropped because literally our opponents know that the right sides the weak side with him and they attack it more often. His lack of pace has cost us a lot this season so far

He has been atrocious but to be fair the right side is frail not just because of him. Fabregas is the covering midfielder for that side which is basically like having no covering midfielder.

When Pardew got the team sheet and saw Ivan at right back he must have danced a little jig to himself