2 hours ago, pacquiao said:

Andy Johnson once score 21 league goals for Crystal Palace, Kevin Philipps once scored 30 league goals for Sunderland doesn't mean they wasn't mediocre players, there are countless examples of mediocre players who score goals for small clubs around Europe. Doesn't mean they can do it at a top club.

Clearly you don't have any aspirations to see Chelsea competing in Europe with the likes of Real Madrid if you're hoping Lukaku becomes Chelsea's first choice striker.  luckily for us though Conte is Chelsea manager and I don't believe he will allow the club to take such a big backwards step.

The PL is a far more competitive league than it was back then isn't it and yet at 23 years of age, he somehow manages to be top league scorer. Prove that Conte does not want him? Are you close personally to him than others are? And yeah luckily Conte is manager as I believe we will go in for Lukaku and if he does end up here next season, which I hope he does instead of him going to another PL team, I am positive he will score goals here because if he goes any other big club like United, he will be scoring goals and we might come to regret it.

6 hours ago, pacquiao said:

You are on my ignore list

Oh no! I've done nothing but be positive and support you. For someone who has been asking for tolerance you don't show much

Its useless to put HIM on "ignore". Every 2nd post is someone replying to HIM and you end up reading the usual drivel anyways. DAMN.

6 hours ago, Jackbuchanan said:

Your argument makes no sense. Every young player has to progress from somewhere, most of the worlds top players would have played in a smaller team at the start of their career. Think of the countless successes we have had buying from smaller clubs. Hazard, Kanté, Lampard, Drogba to name a few. 

Except difference is Lukaku has already proven he can't do it at a top team, for Chelsea and Belgium he has been awful, as teams park the bus against Chelsea and Belgium, and then factor in how bad his technique and how little he has improved it then it becomes pretty clear he is never going to make it at Chelsea.

4 hours ago, STATS said:

The PL is a far more competitive league than it was back then isn't it and yet at 23 years of age, he somehow manages to be top league scorer. Prove that Conte does not want him? Are you close personally to him than others are? And yeah luckily Conte is manager as I believe we will go in for Lukaku and if he does end up here next season, which I hope he does instead of him going to another PL team, I am positive he will score goals here because if he goes any other big club like United, he will be scoring goals and we might come to regret it.

I simply don't believe Conte wants him, why because Lukaku isn't a Conte type player. It's like Sturridge at Liverpool, I guarantee if Klopp had to put money on who would score more goals in a season a fully fit Sturridge or Firmino, I have no doubt Klopp would put his money on Sturridge. But as we know Firmino and Origi are ahead of Sturridge in the pecking order at Liverpool even though he is a better goal scorer than both of them, but the reality is Sturridge isn't a Klopp player just like Benteke wasn't, and just like Lukaku isn't a Conte type player.

So many people seem to still believe that a strikers job is simply just to put the ball in the back of the net. Fact is, it really isn't, in modern day football, that simply isn't the case you clearly need more to your game. And Lukaku with his laziness, bad attitude, inability to press defenders effectively, his awful touch, his embarrassing 66% pass success rate this season and his inability to do anything productive against a parked bus makes it pretty easy to see that Conte won't want him anywhere near his team.

7 hours ago, Osgood is Good said:

*You recognised as well. Must be about the 7th person just on this thread to come to the same conclusion, but according to him, it's everyone else.

Just don't hurt his feelings, as he will grass you up to the mods, and then keep on sending "love letters" to your inbox.

You have been well and truly triggered I see. Your obsession with me is hilarious, all because you got exposed the other day, and if my argument doesn't make sense how come no one can counter it or at least prove me wrong? Hmmm funny that 

 

7 hours ago, MTF said:

this isn't a democracy so get that mob mentality outta here! the whole forum could be against him and that wouldn't make him wrong as we're all entitled to an opinion.

at the end of the day there is a clear narrative here - no one can say anything negative about lukaku and if you do, then you must be bias!

i dare ya m8, i fookin' dare ya to say lukaku has the touch of a donkey m8 see what happenz!

It really is embarrassing, some people's obsession with such a mediocre player, these people I assume want to see Chelsea win the CL and compete with the best teams in the world and yet want Lukaku as our 1st choice stiker!  it defies logic.

I don't care how many are against me as I know I am right. Just like i was right about Costa, just like I was right about Pedro and Alonso and Luiz.

*sees new posts in the Lukaku thread*

*reads new posts*

*Exits thread like*

Edited May 12, 20179 yr by ForeverCarefree

22 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

*sees new posts in the Lukaku thread*

*reads new posts*

*Exits thread like*

2 minutes ago, dkw said:

Edited May 12, 20179 yr by Bobbywoodhogan

3 hours ago, pacquiao said:

Except difference is Lukaku has already proven he can't do it at a top team, for Chelsea and Belgium he has been awful, as teams park the bus against Chelsea and Belgium, and then factor in how bad his technique and how little he has improved it then it becomes pretty clear he is never going to make it at Chelsea.

Those whopping 15 chelsea appearances over two seasons as an 18/19 year old and playing for a notoriously underperforming Belgium team . . . . hardly qualitative evidence. 

18 minutes ago, RMCM said:

Those whopping 15 chelsea appearances over two seasons as an 18/19 year old and playing for a notoriously underperforming Belgium team . . . . hardly qualitative evidence. 

Yes it is though, he didn't even show glimpses of quality for Chelsea, look at Rashford at Man United, look at Mbappe for Monaco, look at Sterling when he was at Liverpool, look at G.Jesus at City, all of those players showed quality at a young age at top clubs, Lukaku showed nothing,  other then looking like a fan who won a competition to play with Chelsea. 

And then you look at him for Belgium, and how much creativity he has behind him, and yet again when he comes up against a good team who know how to defend he crumbles time and time again. 

On 5/11/2017 at 08:29, RIP Mourinho said:

Try reading back my post and i said except for the Southampton goal. Good try though. 

He is by far the worst striker Chelsea have ever had for hold up and link up play. Fantastic finisher but breaks down 90% of the attacks that come to him by not making the easy pass, taking too long on the ball or just dribbling head down a defender. Its mentioned every single week on the match day thread since he joined us. 

You probably weren't around for the dark days of Sutton, then.  Or Kezman and his head-down run-like-f**k style.

Sutton is just as bad at punditry 

Just now, yorkleyblue said:

You probably weren't around for the dark days of Sutton, then.  Or Kezman and his head-down run-like-f**k style.

I read Sutton complaining this week about Ibrahimavic being paid vast amounts for each goal he scored this season. Pity we didn't do that with him.

14 minutes ago, pacquiao said:

Yes it is though, he didn't even show glimpses of quality for Chelsea, look at Rashford at Man United, look at Mbappe for Monaco, look at Sterling when he was at Liverpool, look at G.Jesus at City, all of those players showed quality at a young age at top clubs, Lukaku showed nothing,  other then looking like a fan who won a competition to play with Chelsea. 

And then you look at him for Belgium, and how much creativity he has behind him, and yet again when he comes up against a good team who know how to defend he crumbles time and time again. 

It really isn't though, he came on for a few minutes here and there for us. He was never given a chance. Rashford was only given starts because of injuries and he was able to show what he could do. Monaco are a different story because they thrive on their academy prospects breaking into the team, Sterling was made to look an awful lot better than he is by Suarez, Jesus was bought as a starter for city, he wasn't waiting rotting on the bench while a Torres-shaped headless chicken ran around the pitch. None of these are comparable, Lukaku was bought for us as a prospect, but he wasn't given the chance to prove it here even after two fantastic loan spells for WBA and Everton. Are you going to say De Bruyne wasn't good enough for us too? 

And on the Belgium point, the entire team underperforms, Hazard often plays like sh*te for them, so does KDB, they're an inconsistent team, they're well known as a side full of unbelievable quality who just don't gel together, you can't pin that on Lukaku

This is like arguing with a wall. 

27 minutes ago, charierre said:

I read Sutton complaining this week about Ibrahimavic being paid vast amounts for each goal he scored this season. Pity we didn't do that with him.

Well he's 3 league goals for us cost us £3.33m EACH! in transfer fees. 

So maybe he should just shut the f**k up. 

4 minutes ago, RMCM said:

It really isn't though, he came on for a few minutes here and there for us. He was never given a chance. Rashford was only given starts because of injuries and he was able to show what he could do. Monaco are a different story because they thrive on their academy prospects breaking into the team, Sterling was made to look an awful lot better than he is by Suarez, Jesus was bought as a starter for city, he wasn't waiting rotting on the bench while a Torres-shaped headless chicken ran around the pitch. None of these are comparable, Lukaku was bought for us as a prospect, but he wasn't given the chance to prove it here even after two fantastic loan spells for WBA and Everton. Are you going to say De Bruyne wasn't good enough for us too? 

And on the Belgium point, the entire team underperforms, Hazard often plays like sh*te for them, so does KDB, they're an inconsistent team, they're well known as a side full of unbelievable quality who just don't gel together, you can't pin that on Lukaku

This is like arguing with a wall. 

More false information, Lukaku started against Fulham, Everton and Liverpool in the league cup in his first season those were opportunities for him to show something, and guess what he done nothing in those games! A player like Rashford took his chance in the EL last season, Lukaku didn't, so you can make up these lies about him only getting a few minutes here and there but fact is he was given 3 starts to just show us even a glimpse of something and he failed. 

And Hazard often plays sh*t for Belgium??? Is it 2014 again??? Do you even watch Belgium? Hazard was their top scorer in qualifying for Euro 2016 and then finished Euro 2016 at the top of the assists charts, and put in the best individual performance of the tournament. And where did I say Belgium underperforming is Lukaku's fault, although he is part of the problem but not the main issue, the point is whenever Lukaku comes up against a decent team who parks the bus against them, Lukaku goes missing time and time again.

its like talking to a brick wall alright. 

1 minute ago, pacquiao said:

More false information, Lukaku started against Fulham, Everton and Liverpool in the league cup in his first season those were opportunities for him to show something, and guess what he done nothing in those games! A player like Rashford took his chance in the EL last season, Lukaku didn't, so you can make up these lies about him only getting a few minutes here and there but fact is he was given 3 starts to just show us even a glimpse of something and he failed. 

And Hazard often plays sh*t for Belgium??? Is it 2014 again??? Do you even watch Belgium? Hazard was their top scorer in qualifying for Euro 2016 and then finished Euro 2016 at the top of the assists charts, and put in the best individual performance of the tournament. And where did I say Belgium underperforming is Lukaku's fault, although he is part of the problem but not the main issue, the point is whenever Lukaku comes up against a decent team who parks the bus against them, Lukaku goes missing time and time again.

its like talking to a brick wall alright. 

3 starts, 15 total appearances. Two great seasons on loan after that, i'd put more stock in his loans and performances since he left us than the sparse chances he got while here. I'm not his biggest fan but he's one of the top 5 strikers in the league, behind Aguero, Ibra, Kane and arguably Costa. 

Yes I do watch belgium, Hazard had a great tournament last year, but he does go missing in games for them. Lukaku also bagged two goals against Ireland, who definitely parked the bus against them.  

I'm done with this though, I can't be arsed

14 minutes ago, RMCM said:

3 starts, 15 total appearances. Two great seasons on loan after that, i'd put more stock in his loans and performances since he left us than the sparse chances he got while here. I'm not his biggest fan but he's one of the top 5 strikers in the league, behind Aguero, Ibra, Kane and arguably Costa. 

Yes I do watch belgium, Hazard had a great tournament last year, but he does go missing in games for them. Lukaku also bagged two goals against Ireland, who definitely parked the bus against them.  

I'm done with this though, I can't be arsed

He actually had 4 starts as he started 1 league game against Blackburn, fact is he had chances to show what he could do in a Chelsea shirt and failed.

and both of Lukaku's goals against Ireland came from Belgium counter attacks where Lukaku was left in space. So no Ireland definitely didn't park the bus. 

Edited May 12, 20179 yr by pacquiao

1 hour ago, pacquiao said:

Yes it is though, he didn't even show glimpses of quality for Chelsea, look at Rashford at Man United, look at Mbappe for Monaco, look at Sterling when he was at Liverpool, look at G.Jesus at City, all of those players showed quality at a young age at top clubs, Lukaku showed nothing,  other then looking like a fan who won a competition to play with Chelsea. 

And then you look at him for Belgium, and how much creativity he has behind him, and yet again when he comes up against a good team who know how to defend he crumbles time and time again. 

Look at Costa? Look at Drogba?

Some players develop later than 18 years old. In fact they say you shouldn't judge a player at 18 - players are still developing then. 

Look, you don't think Lukaku is a good buy. I think he is. So do many others. Lets stop going round in circles. 

5 hours ago, pacquiao said:

So many people seem to still believe that a strikers job is simply just to put the ball in the back of the net. Fact is, it really isn't, in modern day football, that simply isn't the case you clearly need more to your game. And Lukaku with his laziness, bad attitude, inability to press defenders effectively, his awful touch, his embarrassing 66% pass success rate this season and his inability to do anything productive against a parked bus makes it pretty easy to see that Conte won't want him anywhere near his team.

Costa only gets away with his terrible all round play because he does put the ball in the back of the net. Some people like me would always comment on how bad Costa's all round play is but the flood gates opened with criticism once he stopped putting the ball in the back of the net. So putting the ball in the back of the net works both ways. Talking about bad attitudes Costa has one of the worst out there, he would fight himself in an empty room.

5 minutes ago, benjsross said:

Look at Costa? Look at Drogba?

Some players develop later than 18 years old. In fact they say you shouldn't judge a player at 18 - players are still developing then. 

Look, you don't think Lukaku is a good buy. I think he is. So do many others. Lets stop going round in circles. 

Oh so now Lukaku is a late bloomer even though he was playing for the biggest club in Belgium at the age of 16! So when is Lukaku going to suddenly develop into a world class footballer? When he is 38? 

7 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

Costa only gets away with his terrible all round play because he does put the ball in the back of the net. Some people like me would always comment on how bad Costa's all round play is but the flood gates opened with criticism once he stopped putting the ball in the back of the net. So putting the ball in the back of the net works both ways. Talking about bad attitudes Costa has one of the worst out there, he would fight himself in an empty room.

Not true at all, when Costa wasn't scoring he was still starting games because of what he offers the team with his work rate, always unsettling defenders, effectively pressing from the front, constantly making clever runs to create space, these are all attributes that Conte likes in a striker and attributes that Lukaku does not possess 

Edited May 12, 20179 yr by pacquiao

4 minutes ago, pacquiao said:

Oh so now Lukaku is a late bloomer even though he was playing for the biggest club in Belgium at the age of 16! So when is Lukaku going to suddenly develop into a world class footballer? When he is 38? 

Well I think he is already a world class footballer, he is the top scorer in the premier league. In a league where every goal matters. 

I was pointing out that just because he wasn't world class at the age of 18 doesn't mean anything.