I think Plan B was Marquinhos. Hector would have been bought regardless as youth to loan out and cash on.

Looking at a player from PSG who have no lack of money and lodging a last minute bid had as much chance of happening as me going on a date with Scarlett Johansson.

Remember José wanted to build the team around Oscar? Got rid of mata for oscar...HA! For the special manager he was supposed to be,, he left his 2nd stint here by letting go of lukaku, de bruyne, mata, and ruining our medical team. We did win the league, but i would have forgone that league win if it meant competing for top four this season. He royally f**ked us and now everyone else has to pick up the pieces.

 

Do you honestly think our team was built around Oscar? From my view, Oscar was a support player helping players like Hazard, Fabregas and Costa who were the real players our team was built around.

 

In what was was the team built around Oscar? 

I don't remember any 50m bid for Stones.

 

Nah you're allowed to use rumours to bash Jose.

Do you honestly think our team was built around Oscar? From my view, Oscar was a support player helping players like Hazard, Fabregas and Costa who were the real players our team was built around.

 

In what was was the team built around Oscar? 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2427361/Jose-Mourinho-tells-Mata-Oscar-choice-No-10-Chelsea.html

We made a 37m and 44m bid for Stones according to reports which were both rejected. Unless you want to be very accute then you can basically say the board bidded to near 50m and were not prepared to pay more. The intent to back Jose was there.

You can moan about last minute bids etc, but no one knows how hard we were trying in the market. And just because mistakes were made in trying to sign players it doesn't mean the board didn't back him.

We made a 37m and 44m bid for Stones according to reports which were both rejected. Unless you want to be very accute then you can basically say the board bidded to near 50m and were not prepared to pay more. The intent to back Jose was there.

You can moan about last minute bids etc, but no one knows how hard we were trying in the market. And just because mistakes were made in trying to sign players it doesn't mean the board didn't back him.

You said 50m, a 50m bid might of got Stones. Don't state 50m then change it.

The board didn't back Mourinho with signings, getting Papy was not improving the squad.

Utd spent big on players, City spent big even Liverpool did.

Arguing about how much we offered for Stones?? None of us will ever know.What I do know is, he's not worth 50 million.

You said 50m, a 50m bid might of got Stones. Don't state 50m then change it.

The board didn't back Mourinho with signings, getting Papy was not improving the squad.

I think the board backed Jose with signings., problem being, the signings were sh*te

I think the board backed Jose with signings., problem being, the signings were sh*te

Yep and Mourinho stated before the season even started how important it is to improve the squad.

You said 50m, a 50m bid might of got Stones. Don't state 50m then change it.

The board didn't back Mourinho with signings, getting Papy was not improving the squad.

Feck me am I allowed to say I stand corrected?

A bit of common sense will make my point clear. We made bids well over what the kid was actually worth and in the end we failed. We didn't bid 50m I was wrong , we went in at 6m less.

I dont think any rational person who saw the end of last season could of viewed the summer transfer business and thought "Ya, we're better off and in a good position to retain the title"

 

and if this summer was an attempt to back Mourinho and that was the best they could do, why are they still employed by the club?  The disaster that is this season is no worse than the disaster of a transfer window that took place this summer.

 

Oh, and how do I know for an absolute fact that Mourinho didn't get the backing he deserved?  Because if he did, then Cech would still be here and certainly not at Arsenal.  Mourinho was very public and very clear that this was a transfer authorized above his head and one he was 100% against....That is not speculation.

 

It's not really backing someone when you ignore them when you feel like it, is it?

 

 And in that context, ya Papajonobody and Hector LOL  

 

Last minute failed panic bids that even I knew was doomed to fail (and im no insider or manager pro, just a guy with some common sense, an understanding of finance and have actually looked at how clubs behave during

transfer windows) LOL 

 

The only decent purchase (Kennedy aside, because he was not intended to be a difference maker this season), Pedro, a last second panic swipe from MUFC because the season had started and made it clear that the problems hadn't magically disappeared...... LOL

 

Ya, I can see how some would think the manager who won the BPL got backed LOL well, I guess decently in comparison to how Carlo was backed after he won us the double....but certainly not backed like the summer window that delivered players who won the BPL title last season.

 

So if you truly think that the club tried to back Mourinho then fair enough, but I will only believe you if you admit that they are deluded and/or incompetent too....

I think the board backed Jose with signings., problem being, the signings were sh*te

Correct, and even when you look at the pool of players available last summer, the quality inside that pool was incredibly thin. Yet people we expected miracles and us to bring in a cluster of quality top signings

Even Liverpool spent 30m on a striker they have on the bench. Chelsea went for Falcao on loan lol. Then a last ditch deal for a unfit Pato who has played 0mins so far in January.

Talking about CBs if we even wanted to improve the squad there are proven PL CBs like Williams and Reid who would be cheaper than Stones and cost less. They would both get in most of the top teams. Even Fonte is good.

Even Liverpool spent 30m on a striker they have on the bench. Chelsea went for Falcao on loan lol. Then a last ditch deal for a unfit Pato who has played 0mins so far in January.

Talking about CBs if we even wanted to improve the squad there are proven PL CBs like Williams and Reid who would be cheaper than Stones and cost less. They would both get in most of the top teams. Even Fonte is good.

So what if they signed Benteke for 30m. He's been a flop and won't last much longer at that club. Such an irrelevant example that is.

Falcao was signed by yours truly Jose Mourinho.

Those CBS you listed are all bang average and no better than Cahill.

Williams is class and would get in Arsenal, City's, Liverpools and Utds team. The point is about improving the squad not just the team.

How do you know Falcao was Mourinhos signing? Maybe he had no choice, maybe the club didn't want to spend any money on a forward.

The point about Benteke is Liverpool was willing to spend 30m even though they have Sturridge, Origi, Firminio and Ings. Yes Benteke hasn't played well but he don't exactly play alot.

There good examples to say there are players out there and other clubs did improve or try to improve while Chelsea stood still.

But hey it's all Mourinhos fault everything is. Nothing to do with the players or board. Just Mourinho, he was in all the negotiations.

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How do you explain FSW?!!!

Roman thought we would like him?

Williams is class and would get in Arsenal, City's, Liverpools and Utds team. The point is about improving the squad not just the team.

How do you know Falcao was Mourinhos signing? Maybe he had no choice, maybe the club didn't want to spend any money on a forward.

The point about Benteke is Liverpool was willing to spend 30m even though they have Sturridge, Origi, Firminio and Ings. Yes Benteke hasn't played well but he don't exactly play alot.

There good examples to say there are players out there and other clubs did improve or try to improve while Chelsea stood still.

But hey it's all Mourinhos fault everything is. Nothing to do with the players or board. Just Mourinho, he was in all the negotiations.

Williams is good not class and it's not like those clubs have great defences anyway. And if it's all about improving the squad then surely baba and Pedro did improve the squad. They aren't bad players themselves.

I say Falcao was a Jose signing because he was waxing lyrical about him saying he will get Falcao back to form.

The point about Liverpool is a mute one. Means nothing unless you sign the right player. We signed Pedro for 20odd MIL so it's not like we didn't spend.

You just said other clubs tried to improve well we are one example. We made signings this summer and tried to sign stones.

So you say Falcao was a Mourinho signing because he bigs him up and says he will get him back on form. What else is he ment to say? His crap and I don't want him lol

Pedro was a last minute signing to stop Utd getting him and because Chelsea had realised there transfer window was buggered. Last thing they needed was another winger.

You muppet it isn't about whether those clubs have great defences or not. If City and Arsenal had Williams they would probably be top of the league. Williams is a very good player and would change the fortunes of them clubs.

I'm fed up of the pointless arguing now. You simply blame Mourinho for everything, like I have said before bet you was celebrating when he won us the league 3 times though or did you smash the telly lol.

I don't think Mourinho is a saint or blameless for this season, but the players and board take blame too for what's happened.

People should stop looking back with rose tinted spectacles ... Jose's season this year was dreadful ... terrible.

And Jose only had himself to blame, tbh.

His public handling of Eva was bullying ... even if behind the scenes there were maybe reasons?

His methods of running the same hand-ful of players into the ground, despite poor form and giving zero chance to anyone else was clearly evident for all to see ...

His favouritism towards non-performing players was also clearly evident for all to see, etc.

Forcing Mata out for Oscar was unforgivable, IMHO ...

And prospects leaving because they knew they wouldn't get a look-in under Jose's methods was there for all to see ...

They had zero chance and therefore, zero motivation to stay under Jose.

We all wanted Jose to be a success, and still be here, of course ... but this time around it was obvious why he left.

Agreed,stop looking back full stop.

I dont think any rational person who saw the end of last season could of viewed the summer transfer business and thought "Ya, we're better off and in a good position to retain the title"

 

and if this summer was an attempt to back Mourinho and that was the best they could do, why are they still employed by the club?  The disaster that is this season is no worse than the disaster of a transfer window that took place this summer.

 

Oh, and how do I know for an absolute fact that Mourinho didn't get the backing he deserved?  Because if he did, then Cech would still be here and certainly not at Arsenal.  Mourinho was very public and very clear that this was a transfer authorized above his head and one he was 100% against....That is not speculation.

 

It's not really backing someone when you ignore them when you feel like it, is it?

 

 And in that context, ya Papajonobody and Hector LOL  

 

Last minute failed panic bids that even I knew was doomed to fail (and im no insider or manager pro, just a guy with some common sense, an understanding of finance and have actually looked at how clubs behave during

transfer windows) LOL 

 

The only decent purchase (Kennedy aside, because he was not intended to be a difference maker this season), Pedro, a last second panic swipe from MUFC because the season had started and made it clear that the problems hadn't magically disappeared...... LOL

 

Ya, I can see how some would think the manager who won the BPL got backed LOL well, I guess decently in comparison to how Carlo was backed after he won us the double....but certainly not backed like the summer window that delivered players who won the BPL title last season.

 

So if you truly think that the club tried to back Mourinho then fair enough, but I will only believe you if you admit that they are deluded and/or incompetent too....

 

Regardless of whether you feel the club backed JM in the summer tranbsfer window, how on earth can it be acceptable to be 1 point above relegation and lose 9 of your first 16 games with a squad that just won the PL ?

 

We were absolutely AWFUL to watch as well. For a year.  I'm sure Roman could just about stomach the negative tactics when we were winning, or not losing, but when you back up sh*te football with a stream of losses then you really have nowhere else to go.

 

Add in all the off-field shenanigans as well. and it is indefensible, which is why many of the JM fans in this thread have become abusive and personal to other posters instead,

Regardless of whether you feel the club backed JM in the summer tranbsfer window, how on earth can it be acceptable to be 1 point above relegation and lose 9 of your first 16 games with a squad that just won the PL ?

 

We were absolutely AWFUL to watch as well. For a year.  I'm sure Roman could just about stomach the negative tactics when we were winning, or not losing, but when you back up sh*te football with a stream of losses then you really have nowhere else to go.

 

Add in all the off-field shenanigans as well. and it is indefensible, which is why many of the JM fans in this thread have become abusive and personal to other posters instead,

 

Yep

 

For one reason or another(or maybe many others) Jose lost the playing group. To me thats the major reason he got sacked, why exactly we may never know.

I dont think any rational person who saw the end of last season could of viewed the summer transfer business and thought "Ya, we're better off and in a good position to retain the title"

 

and if this summer was an attempt to back Mourinho and that was the best they could do, why are they still employed by the club?  The disaster that is this season is no worse than the disaster of a transfer window that took place this summer.

 

Oh, and how do I know for an absolute fact that Mourinho didn't get the backing he deserved?  Because if he did, then Cech would still be here and certainly not at Arsenal.  Mourinho was very public and very clear that this was a transfer authorized above his head and one he was 100% against....That is not speculation.

 

It's not really backing someone when you ignore them when you feel like it, is it?

 

 And in that context, ya Papajonobody and Hector LOL  

 

Last minute failed panic bids that even I knew was doomed to fail (and im no insider or manager pro, just a guy with some common sense, an understanding of finance and have actually looked at how clubs behave during

transfer windows) LOL 

 

The only decent purchase (Kennedy aside, because he was not intended to be a difference maker this season), Pedro, a last second panic swipe from MUFC because the season had started and made it clear that the problems hadn't magically disappeared...... LOL

 

Ya, I can see how some would think the manager who won the BPL got backed LOL well, I guess decently in comparison to how Carlo was backed after he won us the double....but certainly not backed like the summer window that delivered players who won the BPL title last season.

 

So if you truly think that the club tried to back Mourinho then fair enough, but I will only believe you if you admit that they are deluded and/or incompetent too....

 

 

Does that make it ok for Jose to Perform how he did then?

So you say Falcao was a Mourinho signing because he bigs him up and says he will get him back on form. What else is he ment to say? His crap and I don't want him lol

Pedro was a last minute signing to stop Utd getting him and because Chelsea had realised there transfer window was buggered. Last thing they needed was another winger.

You muppet it isn't about whether those clubs have great defences or not. If City and Arsenal had Williams they would probably be top of the league. Williams is a very good player and would change the fortunes of them clubs.

I'm fed up of the pointless arguing now. You simply blame Mourinho for everything, like I have said before bet you was celebrating when he won us the league 3 times though or did you smash the telly lol.

I don't think Mourinho is a saint or blameless for this season, but the players and board take blame too for what's happened.

I say it was a Mourinho sighing because he makes its very clear in his interview that its a player he wanted and looking forward to working with. Read his thoughts on Falcao and ask yourself does it sound like it was a signing done without mourinhos blessing.

Pedro was a last minute signing but how do you know we weren't after him long before that as a plan b? Just look at Willian.

Seriously the only Muppet is you suggesting that those clubs would be too with Williams. I'm sure many people would say Arsenal would be top just because they signed Cech. You really do talk utter fraff, as if these clubs are 1-2 players off domestic glory whilst we are even further behind. That is not the case. We are just in a position where we had to recover from a disastrous position.

Of course I celebrated when he won the league. I would back him even if we finished 4th.

I just find it totally unacceptable how he decided to create wars and burned bridges with those who should be his allies. That's the part you fail to understand.