44 minutes ago, evissy said:

To be fair 100k for the club is like a 5pound fine to any of us. It was said it was because of past crimes.

This is bullsh*t, the last 2 fines have been when other clubs have kicked the sh*t out of us and we've barely reacted. How on earth can a city side that has 2 reds for violent behaviour get fined a third we did. There is simply no logic behind that.

12 minutes ago, evissy said:

Please explain.

There are rules where you get fined if your players are not under control like in that game. City got 35k because they have been on better behaviour the past season or so and we got 100k because we have been under investigation for the past season and before that quite a lot.

Both teams know the rule and the fine is ridiculously low for either of the teams. Is this any kind of reason to get your blood pressure up?

My blood pressure isn't up. I don't need to justify my opinion to you.

16 minutes ago, stevo said:

My blood pressure isn't up. I don't need to justify my opinion to you.

@stevo  I've just bought my grandson a hoodie which says on the front "I am NOT arguing, I'm just explaining why I am right!"

1 hour ago, evissy said:

To be fair 100k for the club is like a 5pound fine to any of us. It was said it was because of past crimes.

100k is not pocket change to any organisation.  Wonder how you would feel if it was your money. 

3 hours ago, charierre said:

We really do have to start being a bit more savvy on the pitch. Although generally not the instigators this was our fifth charge in nineteen months, you can bet that a more draconian sentence awaits in the future. Against City we again got involved, Aguero was getting his much deserved red card and thus the media would have had nothing but the challenge to talk about had we not got involved, maybe even a stiffer sentence would have deservedly followed for him. A quick look at how Costa has changed his act has shown that his good behaviour not only has its rewards with better play but the pundits are now taking note of how good a player he is and referees are starting to cut him  a bit of slack.

Yes it is annoying we have again been fined more than the instigating team but like any sentences awarded for bad behaviour , previous conduct is taken into account. We just aren't learning.

I agree and in fact don't go along with most posters here. We weren't blameless. Sure the foul was dreadful and always a red but other than a few appropriate words from David Luiz the incident should have been left to the ref.The "Fracas" started after Chalobah came rushing in and pushed Aguero. He was way out of order. He's the youngest player on the team, not a regular and should leave enforcement to the senior players (just not Diego!)

2 hours ago, dkw said:

This is bullsh*t, the last 2 fines have been when other clubs have kicked the sh*t out of us and we've barely reacted. How on earth can a city side that has 2 reds for violent behaviour get fined a third we did. There is simply no logic behind that.

Nailed it.

On 12/12/2016 at 19:23, mojo said:

 

Too soon

lol it's hilarious how rival fans actually thought this was going to happen.

The last two fines imposed on us seem totally out of proportion to the actual 'offences' comitted.

Much of this goes back to the Tottenham game. They had 9 players booked and a decent referee would have shown them at least 2 red cards, if not 3. We had 3 players booked. The ref in that game clearly lost control of the match. Lets not forget that in the 'fracas' that followed our 70 year old manager was dumped on his backside by a clearly out of control Spuds player.

Fast forward to the Man City game and once again the ref lost control when it mattered most.  City had been hacking away at our players all through the game. Agueros hatchet job on Luiz was the spark, and it's not the first time he's done it. What followed was almost inevitable, but was it really a case of our players being out of control ?  I think not.

Fast forward again to the West Brom match. Blatant time wasting tactics by WB throughout the match, the ref did nothing. Some really nasty tackles going in on our players, and again the ref did very little about it.

It will never happen of course, but if the FA were serious about sorting out the game they would be well advised to start looking closer to home and start fining their referees for failing to control the game.

 

 

1 hour ago, Blunder said:

I agree and in fact don't go along with most posters here. We weren't blameless. Sure the foul was dreadful and always a red but other than a few appropriate words from David Luiz the incident should have been left to the ref.The "Fracas" started after Chalobah came rushing in and pushed Aguero. He was way out of order. He's the youngest player on the team, not a regular and should leave enforcement to the senior players (just not Diego!)

Lol what. If your team mate suffered such a horrific tackle your first instinct is to confront the person who did it. It's pure emotion and has nothing to do with seniority. Also can you imagine chalobah just standing aside and asking some senior player to confront Aguero for what he did? He would never be respected in the squad ever again. Thanks to what he did they probably hold him in good stead now and for a young player it can do wonders for his confidence. 

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by Ivanov87

Let's see if Arsenal and Everton get charged for last night's game, probably NOT

4 hours ago, Ivanov87 said:

Lol what. If your team mate suffered such a horrific tackle your first instinct is to confront the person who did it. It's pure emotion and has nothing to do with seniority. Also can you imagine chalobah just standing aside and asking some senior player to confront Aguero for what he did? He would never be respected in the squad ever again. Thanks to what he did they probably hold him in good stead now and for a young player it can do wonders for his confidence. 

I doubt it. Letting your emotions get the better of you doesn't work in any circumstance. It's called ill-discipline. Just ask Antonio.

Unfortunate that you cannot get angry or show any emotion or celebrate in any way you want in today's game without being censured. Sad state of affairs.

It is also now clear that words, gestures and other acts that cannot hurt anyone are more serious than actually hurting someone. The authorities completely lack education and perspective.

Well here is one way for footballers to become robots and remove any passion from the game.

The FA are nothing but a bunch of old crooks stealing money from rich clubs. 

Absolute bar stewards. 

There will come a time when premier league clubs will start pushing against the FA if they're not careful. They're already more powerful than the FA anyway and no doubt wondering what use they're to them. 

Not surprised at the fine. Also not that surprised ours was larger than Man City's, given that we have more previous.

However, I do think the gap between the two fines should have been substantially less. Man City really triggered the fracas and their overall behaviour was significantly worse during the brawl. 

11 hours ago, Blunder said:

I doubt it. Letting your emotions get the better of you doesn't work in any circumstance. It's called ill-discipline. Just ask Antonio.

Arse. Everyone always complains about a lack of passion in the pro game, Chalobah showed passion, Gary Neville nailed it in commentary at the time, you have to stick up for your teammates, that was a legbreaker tackle. If someone went in like that on a me or a teammate of mine a sunday league match they'd be lucky to get off the pitch without a bloody lip. Chalobah gave him a little 'what was that bullsh*t' shove, and the midget fell over. Not that it was a long fall since he stands an impressive three feet off the ground anyway. 

Not a just outcome, considering the circumstances. A young player reacts spontaneously to an horrific tackle, Fab has a flick in a shoving game but otherwise most players are trying to calm things down. It's an easy earner for someone, that's for sure.

Couldn't there also be a clean sheet at the end of a season?

P.S. The fine for the Spurs row was much more unjust but as Kellyanne Conway says, "We won!"

Wonder if Arsenal and Everton will be charged for a 'failure to control' during their half time fracas.

Last season and the season before that under Mourinho we probably looked like a bunch of arseholes with JM's sour pressers and comments and constant misbehaviour from Costa. Everybody talked about that. I would look in the mirror, pay the fine and clean the act. Conte seems to be doing exactly that. We are like angels these days.

This fine was from past crimes. Get past it.

I get what you mean but getting past isn't easy when your past keeps being brought up. Need a clean slate from the FA before we can get past it

Play nice for this season and I think we are fine.

25 minutes ago, evissy said:

Play nice for this season and I think we are fine.

So if one of our team gets busted up he's teams mates don't react.  It's impossible  evissy mate it really is

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/14/chelsea-watford-face-questions-over-agent-links

 

The latest hit piece against us

8 hours ago, bluelion111 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/14/chelsea-watford-face-questions-over-agent-links

 

The latest hit piece against us

What a load of sh*t