Hasn't had much of a season, but he's the best we have at driving past defenders and our most predatory attacker around the net - hope he stays.

Edited April 24, 20224 yr by BluesPower
typo

3 hours ago, Mod said:

You wouldn't have logged in if he hadn't scored today.

Believe me, we want to see goals from him as much as you do!

I have logged on the last five games that Pulisic has been riding the pine. A bet you lose.

3 hours ago, erskblue said:

 

 

Great photos. Awesome

Hes actually been on a decent scoring run since the turn of the year. The only issue is he does have those games where he can go invisible, but all of our players do. I do feelnmost of our fans on here are very reactionary with most of our players, when hes scoring hes good, one bad game or we lose or draw and we want him out the club.

He is definately one of our most talented players and still young. Just needs a decent run and hopefully he can thrive. 

He took his goal well today, but a bit later he did one of his token runs into nowhere, got outmuscled and lost possession.

If he can cut that out then he would massively improve.

Edited April 24, 20224 yr by Malcolm9

4 minutes ago, Malcolm9 said:

He took his goal well today, but a bit later he did one of his token runs into nowhere, got outmuscled and lost possession.

If he can cut that out then he would massively improve.

I hear what youre saying, but a lot of our matches involve us passing it around, slowly, letting the defence get into their shape and nothing haplening. Sometimes we need players running and taking a risk to try and make something happen

He is actually a really good finisher. Is why i get frustrated when we see the chances and missed against Real. He is capable and makes really good runs.

for sure if TT does not send him and Lukaku on we don't win that game imo.

6 hours ago, Oli said:

I hear what youre saying, but a lot of our matches involve us passing it around, slowly, letting the defence get into their shape and nothing haplening. Sometimes we need players running and taking a risk to try and make something happen

For sure, I have no issues with players making runs, and it breaks the monotony of our safe possession play at times. Pulisic just needs to be more decisive when making them to become a far better player.

 

Edited April 25, 20224 yr by Malcolm9

Chelsea attackers G/A per 90 minutes in PL

1. Mason Mount 0.81

2. Christian Pulisic 0.54 (3 games at wing back)

3. Kai Havertz 0.52

4. Hakim Ziyech 0.49

5. Timo Werner 0.43

6. Romelo Lukaku 0.34

7. Hudson-Odoi 0.28

Other PL attackers...

Sterling .54

Foden .53

Saka .49

Pulisic also has the best goals per shots ratio of any player on Chelsea.

Edited April 26, 20224 yr by USATim

On 24/04/2022 at 21:32, Oli said:

I hear what youre saying, but a lot of our matches involve us passing it around, slowly, letting the defence get into their shape and nothing haplening. Sometimes we need players running and taking a risk to try and make something happen

It's not the run which was the problem, it's learning when to release the ball. At the moment that's the difference between him and CHO for me they have the opposite skillsets. CHO is a better provider (outside the box) than Pulisic even though Christian has proven he can be a good playmaker. 

CHO releases the ball to a team mate after dribbling much sooner than Puli, yet CHO doesn't come close to Christian's composure inside that 18 yard box. Pulisic needs to be look up more when on the ball and he will get loads more assits. 

CHO needs to learn to pass more inside the box because he too can be selfish whilst his finishing isn't at the level we would expect considering the hype, his shots lack power.

Whilst both players split the fan base I'd keep both, potentially have CHO go on a loan where he would be a regular starter but I think we have missed him as an option at wb in recent months.

Despite what people may think both these players are essential to the squad being the only put and out wingers we actually have. Ziyech I guess is one too but he's not the kind to dribble past a player and whip in a ball down the byline he would rather cut in and play a cross on his left or shoot.

Not playing hurts him a lot. It takes 10 games to get him up and running. Too long for my taste. 

He is also too hasty on the pitch. He feels he needs to make moves here and there. He should calm down and lift his head high. For USA he is playing the way he should for us as well. The tempo of the game is higher in England but him going around like headless chicken doesn't help either. 

I trust him as a finished more than most in our side. He comes second after Mason and probably Alonso in our squad. 

7 hours ago, evissy said:

Not playing hurts him a lot. It takes 10 games to get him up and running. Too long for my taste. 

He is also too hasty on the pitch. He feels he needs to make moves here and there. He should calm down and lift his head high. For USA he is playing the way he should for us as well. The tempo of the game is higher in England but him going around like headless chicken doesn't help either. 

I trust him as a finished more than most in our side. He comes second after Mason and probably Alonso in our squad. 

I think we are lucky if he is available for more than 6 consecutive matches as he seems to be injured so often.

I also think he is good coming from the bench not always yet more often than not.

8 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I think we are lucky if he is available for more than 6 consecutive matches as he seems to be injured so often.

I also think he is good coming from the bench not always yet more often than not.

He hasn't been injured since the beginning of the season.  

1 hour ago, Valpo said:

He hasn't been injured since the beginning of the season.  

I'd be surprised by that because that means TT does not feel in training he is worth starting.

14 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

I'd be surprised by that because that means TT does not feel in training he is worth starting.

 

He's had some starts but I just checked and his last injury period ended on October 31, 2021.  

https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/christian-pulisic-injury-history-usmnt-chelsea-absences-how-many-/blt083ac7c51589af50

On 26/04/2022 at 15:29, strider6004 said:

I'd be surprised by that because that means TT does not feel in training he is worth starting.

I love CP, and as an American he's the reason I'm a Chelsea fan. But I have to be honest he is wildly inconsistent.....I think part of it is he is learning to play differently. I think with the injuries he has lost some speed, so he can't attack Like he used.  When is the last time he took his man on and went past him?  ....I will say his finishing has gotten much better.  

I can't listen to these American pundits. "Oh he scored the game winning goal vs WH, he has to be starting."  So dumb. He's not scoring 20-25 goals plus a year.  And if he were he would start every match. 

If CP is the reason you are a Chelsea fan, as I am another American who loves Chelsea through and through, you should just follow some other team , like an MLS team, and do us all a favor and bugger off.

On 26/04/2022 at 18:42, evissy said:

Not playing hurts him a lot. It takes 10 games to get him up and running. Too long for my taste. 

He is also too hasty on the pitch. He feels he needs to make moves here and there. He should calm down and lift his head high. For USA he is playing the way he should for us as well. The tempo of the game is higher in England but him going around like headless chicken doesn't help either. 

I trust him as a finished more than most in our side. He comes second after Mason and probably Alonso in our squad. 

He need to play fast, he doesn't have the physical attributes nor the skill to play slow. If he try to play slow he will lose the ball constantly. 

 

 

On 26/04/2022 at 11:39, LongtimerLurker said:

It's not the run which was the problem, it's learning when to release the ball. At the moment that's the difference between him and CHO for me they have the opposite skillsets. CHO is a better provider (outside the box) than Pulisic even though Christian has proven he can be a good playmaker. 

CHO releases the ball to a team mate after dribbling much sooner than Puli, yet CHO doesn't come close to Christian's composure inside that 18 yard box. Pulisic needs to be look up more when on the ball and he will get loads more assits. 

CHO needs to learn to pass more inside the box because he too can be selfish whilst his finishing isn't at the level we would expect considering the hype, his shots lack power.

Whilst both players split the fan base I'd keep both, potentially have CHO go on a loan where he would be a regular starter but I think we have missed him as an option at wb in recent months.

Despite what people may think both these players are essential to the squad being the only put and out wingers we actually have. Ziyech I guess is one too but he's not the kind to dribble past a player and whip in a ball down the byline he would rather cut in and play a cross on his left or shoot.

I disagree with that.

While Callums finishing is indefensible I think his general decision making is very good. I could list specific examples (and that's just what led to goals) going down the years but i'll stick to a couple of recent games Villa and Spurs.

Spurs his quality carrying the ball up the pitch set up the Ziyech moment and Villa he played a massive part in all three goals.

28 minutes ago, Argo said:

I disagree with that.

While Callums finishing is indefensible I think his general decision making is very good. I could list specific examples (and that's just what led to goals) going down the years but i'll stick to a couple of recent games Villa and Spurs.

Spurs his quality carrying the ball up the pitch set up the Ziyech moment and Villa he played a massive part in all three goals.

If you read it again notice how I said inside the 18 yard box, Callum is great at providing for others outside the box but once he's got the ball in the box he's very selfish he only looks to shoot. Which isn't always a bad thing but it is when others are in a better position for a tap in. I've seen it all throughout the season if you disagree fair enough but I've seen enough to conclude. 

As of now CHO is the better playmaker and Pulisic the better finisher, CHO needs to pass more in the box and Pulisic needs to release the ball much sooner.

16 hours ago, Browerkid said:

I love CP, and as an American he's the reason I'm a Chelsea fan. But I have to be honest he is wildly inconsistent.....I think part of it is he is learning to play differently. I think with the injuries he has lost some speed, so he can't attack Like he used.  When is the last time he took his man on and went past him?  ....I will say his finishing has gotten much better.  

I can't listen to these American pundits. "Oh he scored the game winning goal vs WH, he has to be starting."  So dumb. He's not scoring 20-25 goals plus a year.  And if he were he would start every match. 

 

Thing is no one on Chelsea is scoring 20 goals a year. 

If you go to goal involvements Mount has more than 27 goal involvements in all competitions.  Havertz is close with 19 goal involvements.

When it comes to goal involvements per minute he's 4th on the team (all competitions) by my calculations.  Behind Havertz, Werner and Mount but ahead of Lukaku, James, and Ziyech.  

https://www.transfermarkt.us/chelsea-fc/leistungsdaten/verein/631/reldata/%262021/plus/1

However I will point out that none of the 3 above him have been played wildly out of position and so that actually hurts his goal involvement per minute numbers.  Kai Havertz and Timo Werner were never asked to play wingback.  Mason Mount was never asked to play #9 or wingback. 

I don't have the number of minutes he played out of position unfortunately but I would suspect that if you discounted the number of minutes they played out position he would likely go up to 3rd as Kai Havertz is not that far ahead of him.  

 

Weird thing is that you wouldn't think it but Timo is actually #1 when it comes to goal involvements per minute having a goal or assist about once ever 116 minutes of game time.  

 

Edited April 28, 20224 yr by Valpo

9 minutes ago, Valpo said:

 

Thing is no one on Chelsea is scoring 20 goals a year. 

If you go to goal involvements Mount has more than 27 goal involvements in all competitions.  Havertz is close with 19 goal involvements.

When it comes to goal involvements per minute he's 4th on the team (all competitions) by my calculations.  Behind Havertz, Werner and Mount but ahead of Lukaku, James, and Ziyech.  

https://www.transfermarkt.us/chelsea-fc/leistungsdaten/verein/631/reldata/%262021/plus/1

However I will point out that none of the 3 above him have been played wildly out of position and so that actually hurts his goal involvement per minute numbers.  Kai Havertz and Timo Werner were never asked to play wingback.  Mason Mount was never asked to play #9 or wingback. 

I don't have the number of minutes he played out of position unfortunately but I would suspect that if you discounted the number of minutes they played out position he would likely go up to 3rd as Kai Havertz is not that far ahead of him.  

 

Weird thing is that you wouldn't think it but Timo is actually #1 when it comes to goal involvements per minute having a goal or assist about once ever 116 minutes of game time.  

 

Regarding the last sentence about Timo I think most of us can see it and do know it. When he plays we look a much more penetrative team. He makes runs that no else does he's always lively, he takes shots sure they don't always work out but he is a forward thinking player he likes to attack same with Havertz. 

If we could have 4 attackers on the field at the same time our attacking metrics one would assume would increase dramatically. If those are our 4 most productive attackers it would be interesting to see how many minutes they've spent playing together all at the same time. Furthermore what our xg is when all 4 play together. In a 442 I could see that working very well since all are hard pressers off the ball

On 26/04/2022 at 03:59, USATim said:

 

I'm curious about this because I did a goal involvement vs minutes comparison but I just noticed that this image credits Pulisic with an assist that transfermarket does not credit him with.  It gives him 4 assists while this credits him with 5.   5 assists would improve his numbers fairly significantly.  

 

Any idea what the actual number is?  

1 minute ago, LongtimerLurker said:

Regarding the last sentence about Timo I think most of us can see it and do know it. When he plays we look a much more penetrative team. He makes runs that no else does he's always lively, he takes shots sure they don't always work out but he is a forward thinking player he likes to attack same with Havertz. 

If we could have 4 attackers on the field at the same time our attacking metrics one would assume would increase dramatically. If those are our 4 most productive attackers it would be interesting to see how many minutes they've spent playing together all at the same time. Furthermore what our xg is when all 4 play together. In a 442 I could see that working very well since all are hard pressers off the ball

 

Problem is where would they all play?  And how much does that expose you defensively?  

I'm not sure that could so easily be done.